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If I get this correct, a person can get up to 4 warns (after reaching the 100% warn) before getting banned ?

Now I see how Kellimus was here for so long. Can someone from the Moderation/Administration explain to me, how is this effective ?

I think it makes spammers, flamers, other rule brakers that brake the rules constantly stay on SEN much, much longer.

No it just means that the person has reached 100% warn level four times. Once you reach 100% warn, you either get banned or suspended. The person might have been suspended 3-4 times so the person must have got 100% warn again and they just banned the person.

Oh and once you reach 100% warn and you come back from suspension your warn level is 80% I think?

Once you reach 100% warn, your warn level is reset to 20%. Reach it again and your warn level is reset to 40%, etc.

So you have to reach like a warn level of 320 before getting banned?

That's dumb =\

OMG. That is even worser than I thought ! You gotto get warned 13 times to get banned ?!?!?! Common, why is it so not cool ? Maybe make it 130 warns before ban ?

Well... obviously it doesn't matter. It's just a number; whither it be 100% or 320%, it's just a number...

Moderators and admins give higher warns depending on the severity of the situation. So if the act that someone caused was enough to warrant a ban or suspension... it would recieve one instantly. Spam and flames aren't much of a problem anyway; unless you make it one...

Whether a person get's permanently banned from this site or not is left to us staff people to decide at our own discretion. Warn levels (like reaching 100%) are a primary factor (but not the only one) in helping us decide what to do.

It's like grades are the most important thing colleges look at when looking over people's applications for entree. But it's not the only thing they look for.
Likewise, warns are the most important thing we look at when looking over people's applications for getting banned. But it's not the only thing we look for.

All of which warn level states is that you are a repeated trouble maker. I've banned people that have only been a matter of days on the site, most possibly less than a week.

Ex-Administrators have been banned from the site before too. It's just a matter of discussion among the Staff//Admins to decide when we would ban someone.

Kellimus was just a flamer, and that's all he did. Personally, when he wasn't flaming, I think he was one of our best debators here.

There are no set guidelines. Punishments vary on several factors such as the nature and number of offenses. Some people who are members for five minutes decide to post up porn. Do you think I give them a 20% warn and call it a day? No, I ban their ass. But suppose someone like MillenniumArmy does it. He'd probably get fired and roughed up, but he'd get another chance.

You spelt his name wrong, AGAIN!

To the Moderation/Administration:

You say, that if you do something really bad, you can get banned without your warn log taken into concideration, and, of course, I belive you, but that's not my point. My point is that small offences, small flame, small spamm can't lead to banning without you hitting the warn level maximum for 3 or 4 times. But those small rules brakes are so annoying. So a person can't post porn for 2 times (maybe he will be forgiven for the first time), but can abuse other members for 30 times, let's say.

He also wrote link instead of like. Learn your wordes meese!

BeeR, which ex-admin has been banned?

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Personally, I like the 0,20,40,60,80,100,20,40,60,80,100,40,60,80,100,60,80,100,80,100,100 warning system. It gives enough chances for redemption, but still makes those with say, 100% who aren'tso familiar with it more careful with there posting, new members, who tend to break rules the most. Mainly swear filters. But ya, the no set guideline is a no brainer for porn threads or "Post our asses!" thread.

Don't know about the ex admin part but a staff member has been banned, Chris. Most people know about that though.

I like the warn system that they are using right now, seems to work the best in my opinion.

What about Chris ? Tell me, I don't know about him anything, I just remember KEllimus talking about him all the time.

I think the current system gets people banned too slow. Too slow to save topics from being crapped up. The faster you ban flamers, the less work you will have to do in the future. Common, laziness, get over Minimoose..

That isn't the Chris that Kellimus keeps referring to, though. That Chris is Shadow_Paladin_, who I think would be member ID 10 if he were around.

There is no such maximun to "small offenses" commited. A 100% warn level in increments of 20 is just something that Invision came with. We could make it in increments of 1 if we wanted too, and it wouldn't mean anything.
We could even scrap the whole system and just have logs, wouldn't change a thing.

The Chris that Kellimus refers to is mostly to my knowledge S.T.A.R.S.-Chris, I'm talking about Chris AKA Shadow_Paladin_, who administrated the site alongsite Yoshi from June 2003 until about July 2004.