Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2006-06-26 at 22:14:07
Can light push an object?
If it has the ability to bounce off an object, as well as be absorbed, could it not be absorbed but some of the energy in light be used to push the object?
If it has the ability to bounce off an object, as well as be absorbed, could it not be absorbed but some of the energy in light be used to push the object?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KinG_JaKe on 2006-06-26 at 22:31:56
umm... idk try google searching that or look up info on the fifth dimension. I do know a wave of light can not be rode (<did I spell that right?) Einstein descovered that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-06-26 at 22:40:41
The light turns into thermal energy, not kinetic energy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-06-26 at 22:40:44
QUOTE(KinG_JaKe @ Jun 27 2006, 12:31 PM)
umm... idk try google searching that or look up info on the fifth dimension. I do know a wave of light can not be rode (<did I spell that right?) Einstein descovered that.
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OK Everyone! Lets go lightriding! but i would say no. light's mas would be somewhere around 0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2006-06-26 at 23:26:00
Well, this topic is just something to talk about, stir up some good convo.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-06-26 at 23:49:26
Yes, yes it can. Photon sails are a feasible concept for space travel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-06-27 at 00:37:30
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light's mas would be somewhere around 0
Implying that the mass of light may be of a non-zero magnitude, correct?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-06-27 at 01:14:30
QUOTE(Demaris @ Jun 26 2006, 09:49 PM)
Yes, yes it can. Photon sails are a feasible concept for space travel.
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He's right, you know. Slow yet incredibly efficient.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ClansR4gays on 2006-06-27 at 01:57:29
QUOTE(Demaris @ Jun 26 2006, 10:49 PM)
Yes, yes it can. Photon sails are a feasible concept for space travel.
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My space ship designed on demaris' premises
flashlight make go!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaiLuRe. on 2006-06-27 at 02:05:16
QUOTE(ClansR4gays @ Jun 27 2006, 12:57 AM)
My space ship designed on demaris' premises
flashlight make go!
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flashlight make go!
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That's got too many expensives parts! It would never make a mainstream space ship.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-06-27 at 02:33:20
QUOTE(Ninebreaker @ Jun 26 2006, 08:13 PM)
Can light push an object?
If it has the ability to bounce off an object, as well as be absorbed, could it not be absorbed but some of the energy in light be used to push the object?
If it has the ability to bounce off an object, as well as be absorbed, could it not be absorbed but some of the energy in light be used to push the object?
Thoes lamp things that have a fan above the light bulb are not pushed by the light, they are pushed by the rising hot air from the bulb which is really hot.. if that is what you are talking about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-06-27 at 03:12:32
Do we know if gravity is a mutual-only force?
As in, does gravity affect no-mass?
As in, does gravity affect no-mass?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-27 at 03:40:29
Light is affected by gravity because it cannot escape a black hole (hence why the hole appears black). Interesting...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ClansR4gays on 2006-06-27 at 11:39:43
lets see if we can do this without wiki...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-06-27 at 12:04:38
QUOTE(Demaris @ Jun 26 2006, 11:49 PM)
Yes, yes it can. Photon sails are a feasible concept for space travel.
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I believe that you have mistaken the concept. They are calles Solar Sails and they ride upon the principle of Solar Winds. Solar Winds beind the radiation that is released by stars.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-06-27 at 14:36:18
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Light is affected by gravity because it cannot escape a black hole (hence why the hole appears black). Interesting...
Hence my question.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-06-27 at 15:15:44
The way I see it, light is is a very small cluster mass of electrodes and electrons
these molecules are smaller than most other molecules, thus they can go between the small gaps, or go through the larger molecules
when they go through another object, parts of the clusters are left behind, thus charging the molecule from the inside and causing it to heat up (move very rapidly), and the leftover energy continues to pass through the objects untill it's completely absorbed by the molecules surrounding it
and since it has a mass, energy can be controlled by gravity or black holes
now as for the actual topics answer, it can't directly push a object unless it's in a large enough cluster,
and even then it wouldn't be enough to notice without the use of a microscope
also, unlike what many people would like to believe, there are things even smaller than energy!
ADDITION: If I didn't get into detail with any of this enough, just tell me and I'll try to explain it better
these molecules are smaller than most other molecules, thus they can go between the small gaps, or go through the larger molecules
when they go through another object, parts of the clusters are left behind, thus charging the molecule from the inside and causing it to heat up (move very rapidly), and the leftover energy continues to pass through the objects untill it's completely absorbed by the molecules surrounding it
and since it has a mass, energy can be controlled by gravity or black holes
now as for the actual topics answer, it can't directly push a object unless it's in a large enough cluster,
and even then it wouldn't be enough to notice without the use of a microscope
also, unlike what many people would like to believe, there are things even smaller than energy!
ADDITION: If I didn't get into detail with any of this enough, just tell me and I'll try to explain it better
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-27 at 18:09:50
Energy is not a pyshical quantity, hence there is nothing "smaller" than energy. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
Electrodes are completely unrelated to molecular physics, and electrons in motion comprise electricity, not light. Light is composed of miniscule things, photons, which are believed to have nonzero mass, since they are affected by extreme gravitational pull.
Quantum Electrodynamics studies things like this, and the answer to the question is, realistically, light cannot "push" an object any useful distance.
Electrodes are completely unrelated to molecular physics, and electrons in motion comprise electricity, not light. Light is composed of miniscule things, photons, which are believed to have nonzero mass, since they are affected by extreme gravitational pull.
Quantum Electrodynamics studies things like this, and the answer to the question is, realistically, light cannot "push" an object any useful distance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-06-27 at 18:15:26
The easiest way to answer this: indirectly, yes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-27 at 22:18:03
Haha, how true 
(solar panels, for the clueless)
(solar panels, for the clueless)Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-06-27 at 22:39:45
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jun 27 2006, 05:09 PM)
Energy is not a pyshical quantity, hence there is nothing "smaller" than energy. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
Electrodes are completely unrelated to molecular physics, and electrons in motion comprise electricity, not light. Light is composed of miniscule things, photons, which are believed to have nonzero mass, since they are affected by extreme gravitational pull.
Quantum Electrodynamics studies things like this, and the answer to the question is, realistically, light cannot "push" an object any useful distance.
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Electrodes are completely unrelated to molecular physics, and electrons in motion comprise electricity, not light. Light is composed of miniscule things, photons, which are believed to have nonzero mass, since they are affected by extreme gravitational pull.
Quantum Electrodynamics studies things like this, and the answer to the question is, realistically, light cannot "push" an object any useful distance.
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I have never studied chemistry (I start it next year) so I don't really know what I'm talking about completely,
everything I'm saying is based on the way I think it works, since I havn't had any experience with nanotechnology
hence why I said "The way I see it"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-06-27 at 22:55:25
QUOTE(TERRAINFIGHTER @ Jun 27 2006, 09:39 PM)
I have never studied chemistry (I start it next year) so I don't really know what I'm talking about completely,
everything I'm saying is based on the way I think it works, since I havn't had any experience with nanotechnology
hence why I said "The way I see it"
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everything I'm saying is based on the way I think it works, since I havn't had any experience with nanotechnology
hence why I said "The way I see it"
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and he was just disprooving the way you see it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-27 at 23:06:53
If it's how you see it, make up words for the stuff, rather than using relevant other ones.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KinG_JaKe on 2006-06-28 at 10:16:50
QUOTE(ThE_tHiNg @ Jun 26 2006, 09:40 PM)
OK Everyone! Lets go lightriding! but i would say no. light's mas would be somewhere around 0
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The theory was that if you could travel at the speed of light you could potentially ride the beam of light. Light is consistent, but we still know it is moving, being consistent doesn't mean it's not moving. It just means it is faster than time. Their for if you could ride a beam of light you would be breaking the 5th dimension, and be time traveling. BUT Einstein proved that we could never do this.