Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-21 at 13:09:42
If you think he should be changed, don't be afraid to talk... you are protected by the Freedom of Speech. Oh, and don't forget to tell, who do you think should change him. And tell us your reasons why you think something should be done, if something should be done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-21 at 13:13:25
Freedom of speech here? I don't think so. Have you read the first Amendment, which protects abridging of your rights by the US government?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-07-21 at 13:14:35
I luv Mooses!!! 
But it would be OMFG1337PWNAGE if Dema was Admin!!
But it would be OMFG1337PWNAGE if Dema was Admin!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-07-21 at 13:14:59
Look at my custom title, and you'll have your answer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-07-21 at 13:15:38
Dema for Forbidden!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-07-21 at 13:17:01
i say if dema loses this poll he should be banned from SEN 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-21 at 13:19:26
A few points...
1. I could just lock this, this topic is completely pointless because I don't care if you don't like me. DEAD's tried it. Kellimus has tried it. I'm not going anywhere.
2. Nothing happens regardless of who wins.
3. He's going to lose because I cheat.
1. I could just lock this, this topic is completely pointless because I don't care if you don't like me. DEAD's tried it. Kellimus has tried it. I'm not going anywhere.
2. Nothing happens regardless of who wins.
3. He's going to lose because I cheat.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-21 at 13:26:22
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jul 21 2006, 08:19 PM)
A few points...
1. I could just lock this, this topic is completely pointless because I don't care if you don't like me.
2. Nothing happens regardless of who wins.
3. He's going to lose because I cheat.
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1. I could just lock this, this topic is completely pointless because I don't care if you don't like me.
2. Nothing happens regardless of who wins.
3. He's going to lose because I cheat.
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I know that nothing will happen
Don't cheat, you will probably win
I'm just annoyed by how some aspects of the rules system work... You are too conservative for me
ADDITION:
Moose, seriously, don't act like a child... set back the votes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-07-21 at 13:27:53
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jul 21 2006, 01:19 PM)
3. He's going to lose because I cheat.
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Owned Jammed. GG Moose, you win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-21 at 13:28:28
Why does it seem a better idea to you to try to overthrow me than to give me some constructive criticism on the rules?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-07-21 at 13:30:37
I Have a question....
Even if Demaris DID win the poll, how would he become admin?, Moose wouldnt just step down neither would he make him an admin. OR BOTH. so what the hell is the point in this topic? Your getting no where.
Even if Demaris DID win the poll, how would he become admin?, Moose wouldnt just step down neither would he make him an admin. OR BOTH. so what the hell is the point in this topic? Your getting no where.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-21 at 13:32:52
Why do people want to "overthrow" you? You seem like a good person, and a good Admin.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ermac on 2006-07-21 at 13:34:04
Does someone really takes this seriuosly?, omg...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-07-21 at 13:35:27
QUOTE(Ermac @ Jul 21 2006, 01:33 PM)
Does someone really takes this seriuosly?, omg...
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Maaaaaybe...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-07-21 at 13:36:43
who's dema? he's obviously not gonna become admin anytime soon just cause a few people want him to be
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-21 at 13:52:35
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jul 21 2006, 08:28 PM)
Why does it seem a better idea to you to try to overthrow me than to give me some constructive criticism on the rules?
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I did, but I was flooded by the conservativness of your moderation that you built up.
What I don't like:
The warn system - when you must get about 13 warns to get banned. Isn't that a bit much ? People that shouldn't be here annoy other people for too long. Isn't 5-7 warns enough proof to you ?
Shouldn't warns be deleted over time ? I think a person can change. My idea: the more active the member is, the faster warns get removed. For example: member A got to 80% warn, and stopped visiting SEN. His warns don't get removed automatically, because he isn't active to proove that he changed (or didn't). The more active he is, the faster he warns get removed (If he doesen't get any new ones). -20% of warn per 1-2 months with not bad activity of the member, combined with the less warn level system should be like a statement: "It is easy to make us angry, but we can forgive you with time". I think this will lead to people thinking while posting, and to forgiving stupid mistakes (when a generally good member was totally angry, for example)
Sometimes inactivness of moderation - Before this, I didn't point my fingers at certain people, but now I will. I think the moderation is slow - I've seen a lot of times, when The Daddy, Stalingrad, Zombie, and a fiew others began their so called "discussion", and ended up insulting each other's beliefs, like "you're liberal scum", or "conservative retard". Why didn't this get stopped in the beginning ?
Site crashes - there were a fiew... one happened because somebody didn't pay the bill, but the others ? I don't know how often other sites crash, so maybe I should be happy, but I'm still not.
ADDITION:
Thank you for the anti-cheating.
Well, those were my ideas. As I've said before (or didn't): you're too conservative for me. You don't want to try out new ideas.. maybe you think that they will hurt the site ? Maybe some will, but with experimenting, you can make the site actually better. You can't make an omelet without breaking the eggs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-21 at 14:05:16
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jul 21 2006, 01:52 PM)
The warn system - when you must get about 13 warns to get banned. Isn't that a bit much ? People that shouldn't be here annoy other people for too long. Isn't 5-7 warns enough proof to you ?
Nothing says moderators HAVE to wait for everything to fill up. Warn levels really serve more as a guage and a tracking system for repeat offenders. People have been banned without hitting 100% because its obvious they have no intentions of change. Heck, there's even some crazy people who think its a good idea just to sign up so they can harass us with porn or something... they don't even get a warn.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jul 21 2006, 01:52 PM)
Sometimes inactivness of moderation - Before this, I didn't point my fingers at certain people, but now I will. I think the moderation is slow - I've seen a lot of times, when The Daddy, Stalingrad, Zombie, and a fiew others began their so called "discussion", and ended up insulting each other's beliefs, like "you're liberal scum", or "conservative retard". Why didn't this get stopped in the beginning?
There are lines that are hard to draw during debates. People have to keep reporting posts, I barely get any posts out of Serious Discussion (I don't think I've gotten one in over a week now).
Another problem is that a LOT of mods and staff keep going on outings and vacations, and it is becoming quite a nuisance. I hired MrrLL as a DLDB Keeper a few weeks ago simply because NOBODY was touching the DLDB backlog of over 50 files. The #1 problem with the DLDB is that there is almost no way to track a Keeper's activity, so I really have no idea who is active and who is not.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jul 21 2006, 01:52 PM)
Site crashes - there were a fiew... one happened because somebody didn't pay the bill, but the others ? I don't know how often other sites crash, so maybe I should be happy, but I'm still not.
There is a repair function which all of the staff can use if the database goes down.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jul 21 2006, 01:52 PM)
Well, those were my ideas. As I've said before (or didn't): you're too conservative for me. You don't want to try out new ideas.. maybe you think that they will hurt the site ? Maybe some will, but with experimenting, you can make the site actually better. You can't make an omelet without breaking the eggs.
A lot of limitations are in v4's code, which I simply dislike. I find Invision's code (particularly some of mods such as the DLDB/Store/etc) confusing, annoying, and poorly organized. I would like to try out all the crazy new rankings and such, but those are difficult to implement around here. v5 is a much better testing ground for things like that. On the subject of v5, I've been coding exclusively for v5 for awhile now. I like IP's coding style and find it very efficent and easy to understand.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-07-21 at 14:13:20
People seem to be taking the whole Dema for Admin thing a little too seriously. It's just a joke, calm down people! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-21 at 14:18:09
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707)
Nothing says moderators HAVE to wait for everything to fill up. Warn levels really serve more a guage and a tracking system for repeat offenders. People have been banned without hitting 100% because its obvious they have no intentions of change.
Kellimus hit 100% many times, as far as I know, but he can be verry different. Yes, you said that not all 13 warns can be used, but what have you got to say in reply to the idea of a less level warn ?
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707)
There are lines that are hard to draw during debates. People have to keep reporting posts, I barely get any posts out of Serious Discussion (I don't think I've gotten one in over a week now).
Another problem is that a LOT of mods and staff keep going on outings and vacations, and it is becoming quite a nuisance. I hired MrrLL as a DLDB Keeper a few weeks ago simply because NOBODY was touching the DLDB backlog of over 50 files. The #1 problem with the DLDB is that there is almost no way to track a Keeper's activity, so I really have no idea who is active and who is not.
Another problem is that a LOT of mods and staff keep going on outings and vacations, and it is becoming quite a nuisance. I hired MrrLL as a DLDB Keeper a few weeks ago simply because NOBODY was touching the DLDB backlog of over 50 files. The #1 problem with the DLDB is that there is almost no way to track a Keeper's activity, so I really have no idea who is active and who is not.
So, when summer ends, the situation can get better ?
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707)
There is a repair function which all of the staff can use if the database goes down.
Well, I guess nobody was there to press the button, all the moderatino was sleeping (hello European time)
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707)
A lot of limitations are in v4's code, which I simply dislike. I find Invision's code (particularly some of mods such as the DLDB/Store/etc) confusing, annoying, and poorly organized. I would like to try out all the crazy new rankings and such, but those are difficult to implement around here. v5 is a much better testing ground for things like that.
So in the long run, all we can do is wait for v5 ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-21 at 14:30:18
IP let Kellimus back in, which is a whole other issue. Trust me, he didn't go through a full load of warn resets.
I don't see the need for warn levels to go down over time. When I give a 100% mandatory suspension, I look over the warn log. If I notice it took you two years to get up there, you're not going to get a one month suspension.
When the staff stop being inactive, things will get better. Until then, I might make some more minor changes in staffing.
That depends on why the site crashed. The SQL errors in tables "ibf_sessions" and "ibf_cache_store" that take the whole site down is what any staffer can fix. For the other times (ie the whole site is inaccessible), blame the server - we don't run it. They've been having a lot of downtime lately. IP deals with them, so I can't give you the full story.
Yeah, in the long run, all code related problems will have to wait for v5.
I don't see the need for warn levels to go down over time. When I give a 100% mandatory suspension, I look over the warn log. If I notice it took you two years to get up there, you're not going to get a one month suspension.
When the staff stop being inactive, things will get better. Until then, I might make some more minor changes in staffing.
That depends on why the site crashed. The SQL errors in tables "ibf_sessions" and "ibf_cache_store" that take the whole site down is what any staffer can fix. For the other times (ie the whole site is inaccessible), blame the server - we don't run it. They've been having a lot of downtime lately. IP deals with them, so I can't give you the full story.
Yeah, in the long run, all code related problems will have to wait for v5.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-21 at 14:31:37
I like Moose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by -bilal92- on 2006-07-21 at 14:34:24
what is all this stuff?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-07-21 at 14:34:34
I don't hate Moose. The only reason I'm doing this is because I was bored and had nothing else to fill my siggy with. Oh, and I got paid to do it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-21 at 14:40:16
Wait, you got paid?
I'll also take pay to put DEMA FOR ADMIN!!!! in my siggy.
I'll also take pay to put DEMA FOR ADMIN!!!! in my siggy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-07-21 at 14:43:10
Yeah... But only because I actually posted it. I got 10 minerals from Dema, and 48 from... uh... DEAD was it? I can't even remember, lol. But then I got fined 50 minerals and 25 posts, so it wasn't really worth it.