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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vindexus on 2004-07-31 at 04:12:36
I draw your attention to this website I found on it being a hoax. If you google lunar landing hoax, you'll find more
Hoax

Here is a website debunking the theories on it being fake. Google lunar landing hoax debunked for more info.

Hoax Debunked

Please, give your opinions

Edit: This does belong in Off Topic, right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joeman12 on 2004-07-31 at 04:21:50
I believe that back in the day when the Americans said they landed on the moon it was a hoax. BUt now a days with technology enhancing 2X every year i believe that we now can succesfully land on the moon. If we couldnt now a days then why keep up the hoax? using all the valuable resources to fool someone would be stupid not to mention a waist in non renewable resourses.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-31 at 04:26:51
I think we definitely landed on the moon. I'm not one to fall for quackpot conspiracy theories, and, even though the moon-landing hoax conspiracy is plausible, I think it's complete bs. Given the capabilities of the rocket they created for the purposes of moon-landing, some simple math and physics will tell you that it was more than adequate to reach the moon. So why would NASA construct an incredibly expensive rocket, go through thousands of man-hours training and preparing, only to not leave. It would have been the most expensive hoax of all time, and even a government desperate to beat the commies wouldn't be so dim as to waste all that money on a sham.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2004-07-31 at 05:37:26
I think we faked it. To beat the Russians mainly. Look at all the pictures we have from the moon look there is no stars but yet pictures in books from space have stars. And we supposively havnt landed on the moon since 1970 something wats wrong with that picture if its cheaper now to land on the moon? why we not do it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-31 at 05:51:25
Why don't we land on the moon now? The better question is, why the hell would we? It's ridiculously expensive to fly into orbit. Flying to the moon and back is outrageously costly, and NASA's budget is small enough as it is. We have nothing to gain from landing on the moon nowadays. Nothing useful to do up there. So, call me crazy, but I don't find it odd that NASA doesn't feel like blowing a few hundred million on a completely useless pleasure cruise to the moon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joeman12 on 2004-07-31 at 06:02:59
I dont see why anyone would want to go to the moon anyways. we got enough problems down here that was dont need ot make any new ones through space travel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nemus on 2004-07-31 at 07:25:33
I think its all crap. Dont trust 'em!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-07-31 at 09:40:21
In Grand theft auto:vice city they have a little area in the film studio where it shows the faking of the landing. happy.gif
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I dont see why anyone would want to go to the moon anyways. we got enough problems down here that was dont need ot make any new ones through space travel.

Umm space travel will probably solve most of the problems, if not I am too stupid to comphrehend <----- nor spell that correctly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-07-31 at 10:54:42
We devinetly landed on the moon. What about the flag thing. If it were on earth it would've gone down by gravity but it was straight still and made of nylon, cause they could bend it easily.
Apollo 13 had that explosion thing in space. It happened and no1 would fake a disaster in the middle of space. When it came back here to earth you could see all the damage caused by 1 little meteorite.
All the important theories and discoveries made at the moon, like that it's not 10 feet of dust it's all rock and it's not made of cheeze lol.
What about all them rock samples.
I watched the History channel the other day and even the Soviets have proof that USA did land on the moon. Soviets had a spaecraft thing robot attemping to land on the moon, even thought it crashed, it took pictures of apollo 11 orbiting the moon. ranting.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-07-31 at 11:36:55
I don't think that moon thing is true. There are lots of evidences.

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We devinetly landed on the moon. What about the flag thing. If it were on earth it would've gone down by gravity but it was straight still and made of nylon, cause they could bend it easily.


Are you stupid?!?!?! The flag would have gone down by moon's gravity! But it is flying! On the earth the air can make it don't go down, but in the moon there is no air, and the moon gravity is enough for make a flag go down! -.-"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-07-31 at 12:43:57
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Are you stupid?!?!?! The flag would have gone down by moon's gravity! But it is flying! On the earth the air can make it don't go down, but in the moon there is no air, and the moon gravity is enough for make a flag go down! -.-"


If you used wind on earth to make it not go down, you would've seen the flag waving about like on earth.
Even though the wind was the exact same speed/angle/amount it would still make the flag go wavy as in the videos it didnt. And in the 60/70's there werent computers powerful enough to make those effects like nowadays.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-07-31 at 14:43:45
I thought that the flag didn't go down because they have a pole in the top. But yeah, I think in the 70s, we probably didn't have the technology/stuff to make it, but I believe that we have landed on the moon.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-31 at 14:49:02
I heard somewhere..I think the history Channel....That WE did land on the Moon...but we didn' get any footage of it....No cameras were recording the event on landing on the moon...So they made a fakw alnding on the moon...to make it to the people that he landed on the moon....If not then it would be a secret cause no footage of landing on the moon was taken...

P.S.If you notice that in the fake lunar landing it shows a camera on the moon...then it shows the Lunar Lander Land on the moon....they couldn't of blasted a camera into the moon....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-07-31 at 20:24:43
Thisa topic is so dumb, why would they send a rocket with all the crap in it into space for a giant hoax? The ship itself was acually orbiting the moon, they have proof, WHY go to all that trouble to hoax it when you could aucally do it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Reever on 2004-07-31 at 22:41:04
I think it was real and even if it was a hoax im sure we did it some time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-08-01 at 01:40:48
I just can't understand the logic of the people who think it was a hoax. I mean, use some common sense, people. And stop watching Conspiracy Theory on repeat. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-08-01 at 02:21:38
The three people that voted no are dumbasses
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-08-01 at 02:30:19
QUOTE(Scorpion @ Jul 31 2004, 01:49 PM)
I heard somewhere..I think the history Channel....That WE did land on the Moon...but we didn' get any footage of it....No cameras were recording the event on landing on the moon...So they made a fakw alnding on the moon...to make it to the people that he landed on the moon....If not then it would be a secret cause no footage of landing on the moon was taken...

P.S.If you notice that in the fake lunar landing it shows a camera on the moon...then it shows the Lunar Lander Land on the moon....they couldn't of blasted a camera into the moon....

OK. Education time.

The lunar craft that landed on the moon had a camera arm that extended out, therefore taking pictures of them when they went down the stair thingie.

Now, that picture of a rock with a C in it is completely fake. The real one on the NASA site does not have that.

About the stars..

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There's really no different between the sky on the Moon and the sky during day time on Earth.  The fact that the sky on Earth is blue because of the atmosphere and it is black on the Moon makes no difference.   You cannot see stars during the day.

The lunar surface is very bright.  Brighter than the brightest day in the hottest part of the world.  This is obvious when you think about it.  There are no atmosphere or clouds on the moon.   In comparison to this bright surface, the stars are very dim. 

It is very difficult to get a photograph of a very dim object and a very bright object at the same time.  If you set the camera to take a photograph of the bright object (using a fast exposure) you won't capture the dim object at all.  If you set the camera to take a picture of the dim objects, then the bright objects will appear as very fuzzy and over-exposed blobs.

The cameras and films the Apollo missions took with them were also designed to photograph activities on the moon's surface.  They were not designed to take photographs of the stars.   It doesn't mean the stars weren't there, just that the photographs did not capture them.   The exposures were set to work with the brightly light surface and astronauts.


Another common misconception is that why isnt there a bigger crater when the lunar craft thing hit the moon. It's because the gravity is less.

About the flag fluttering...

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This is one of the most common questions about the Apollo landings and is often used as evidence of a hoax.  Fortunately there is nothing peculiar about what we can see here at all.  Not if we remember this is happening on the moon.

Firstly the flag had a horizontal bar attached to it at the top.  This was done so that the flag would stand out from the flagpole.  NASA appreciated that there would be no wind on the moon, so any normal flag would just hang limply and unattractively down the pole.   To make things look better they added a bar that stood out at 90 degrees from the pole.  The flag was really hanging from this, rather than from the pole.  The bar was also not quite the full width of the flag, so that it was slightly furled to give a 'wave look' to it.

The moon's surface, once you get past the thin layer of dust, is very hard.  So getting the flagpole to stick in was a tough job.  The footage shows the astronaut twisting the pole back and forth in order to try and get it further into the ground.    This movement made the attached bar and flag flutter.

The flagpole itself was light aluminium that is quite springy.  Even once the astronaut let go the pole would continue to vibrate.  This in turn would shake the bar and flap the flag.  Without any air to dampen this it would continue to do so for longer than you might expect.



Proving men have been to the moon..

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This can be done by just about anyone. Ok, maybe not everyone, but plenty have done it and it proves men have been up there.

Basically all you do is buy a laser and a detector and a light collecting mirror. Then you fire it at a precise point on the moon. There is a reflecting prism there that acts like a mirror, placed by Apollo astronauts. Now if there was nothing at that point but rock that would be the last you would see of your laser. But time and time again scientist have been getting their laser reflected back. Indeed, they have done a number of experiments using these reflectors. This experiment has provided a very accurate method of measuring the distance to the moon. Due to these measurements we can now tell that the moon is actually steadily receding from the Earth.



All quotes taken from one of those sites at the front page

Jesus, cant any of you read?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-08-01 at 06:12:05
Thank god. I was beginning to think that nobody here had the intelligence to actually read some information before posting half-assed arguments.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-01 at 12:08:18
Told ya all we did land on the moon.

MindArchon owned u all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-08-01 at 23:23:17
Because unlike those who voted no, Mind Archon actually read up on this. The others just pull censored.gif out of thin air, and call it truth. Arg.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-08-02 at 00:33:15
Now for the people who STILL think its fake..

They launched off a rocket correct? What the hell would they do with it when it was in space... make it vanish? Make it orbit the earth for the week or w/e it took for them to fly there and back? You think Russia would see that..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clan[SiP] on 2004-08-02 at 02:11:52
For any of you idiots who still think it is a hoax,visit www.badastronomy.com Where they explain in detail EACH AND EVERY point brought up by the theorists claiming we haven't and how they are wrong. and good luck proving him wrong, his stuff isn't half-assed,he did his research,unlike you idiots who think we didn't!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2004-08-03 at 09:43:16
We landed, that's final. The government wouldn't lie about something like this.
We've sent other people haven't we? That website is more of a hoax then a lot I've seen. So really, there's no point in a suspicion about not landing on the moon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarEditron 4000 on 2004-08-03 at 23:33:10
FOR GODS SAKE!

WHY WOULD AMERICA WASTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A CHEAP HOAX WHILE TODAY THEY CAN BARELY GET FUNDING FOR MEDICARE? SOUNDS LIKE A STUPID IDEA TO ME! IF WE DIDN'T LAND (WHICH WE DID) THAN WHY IS THERE SO MUCH EVIDENCE SAYING THAT WE DID?
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