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Are u planning on making Starforge2?
and if so whats going to be new to the program?

StarForge itself is pretty much abandoned.. why would you think there would be a second?

Basically think about the last time you saw Heimdal. Then think about the last time you saw Heimdal talking about working on StarForge. That should be a clear indication.


Clokr_ has the rights to produce the next StarForge if he ever wanted, but you'll have better luck finding Heimdal than Clokr_.

Clokr_'s been coming on more. He was on this morning, and last night on sc.

I'd say good luck finding Heimdal.

StarForge 2? Hasn't it been out for a while? Like.. almost 2 years?

i don't think starforge is abandoned:???: i mean i still use it to make maps so, as well as other people i hope. since there is scmdraft 2 (that is quite popular with the copy paste) it be nice to see a sequal to Starforge 2 and what would be changed or improved.
i guess we gota get Clokr_ to attempt to make it

StarForge is a project abandoned by it's creators. In it's current form it is incomplete, filled with errors, and corrupts any maps opened with it. No serious map maker hoping to release a playable map uses it. Should you decide to attempt such an action, you will quickly find X-tra or SCMD2 much more suited to your goals.

Starforge has been in version number 2.0. It is a "patch" version number. For example if Starcraft came out with a 2.0 patch that fixed some minor bugs it would not be Starcraft 2, only version 2.0 of Starcraft 1.

However I would like to note that there are several other editors being made by various groups.

It is worthy to note it does delete some sections and doesn't not have working isometric terrain.

Very much agreed.

He means any professional map that uses the editor will be corrupted. Even if he is right there should be no program bashing.

My definition of a corrupt map includes maps with missing or damaged sections, regardless of whether or not StarCraft can run them or not.


You are right, but the bugs that are there are annoying enough that using it is a deadly game of chance. I'd rather go play Russian Roulette. With five bullets.


I disagree. I hate to force you to find examples in order to defend yourself, but that is the only way I would concede this point.

The only thing that makes StarForge unique in it's functionality is terrain brushes, which are an excellent feature. There's no need to make a brand new StarForge program. Merely upgrading the current one so that it does not corrupt and remove map sections and adding some additional features would make it an ample editor.

I use it. It comes out just fine.

I delete peices of my maps anyways. So why not get a bit of help?
I'm not worried about it.

EDIT:
StarForge is my main editor. If I need to do StarEdit stuff, I use FE.

true.dat

I use it alot, but i use SCMDraft2 as much as it.

...neither does protecting the map.

Even if opening a map with SF doesn't delete sections, saving it sure does.

"Insidious lies" my ass; most of what he said was true, even if it was stated in a way that made it seem overblown. Where he's wrong though is the "no serious map maker" part: I think you can very well make a decent (or certainly playable) map just with SF.

Edit: Oh, btw, it's stupid to say that a new version of SF (with very little bugs and complete functionality) isn't needed just because there's SCMD2: competition is always good. Besides, SCMD2 progress seems to be winding down anyway...

I've been using Starforge for years (current version: 2.2) and beside the annoying popup when making a new map to set players at inactive, if you can't work with the bugs, that's your problem. And personally, I have never seen Starforge corrupting any maps... I even wonder where that rumor came out from.

There is no best editor as none of them is complete. Yet I use mainly Starforge for everything and SCMdraft 2.0 for triggers only (because I can copy/paste in notepad then replace words ^_^).

An update wouldn't hurt, but 2.2 is MUCH less buggy then 2.0 and I'm fine with that version. Various bugs were fixed, functions added and Compressing map + protection now works again.

I'm not, I'm doing all the triggering with Starforge but if I have a huge amount of triggers that I need to copy/paste then modify, you can't just pass by SCMDraft 2.

Nothing beats Starforge in terms of speed for usual triggering, that's a fact.

What's so Wrong with SF...? It's the ONLY program I use to make my maps... Even though I've never finished any of those maps...

All I do is start the map in SCM Draft, make a bunch of pieces of ISOM of every type of terrain, and then unit placements...everything else I use for SF works great..The pieces of ISOM you use SF to make brushes out of or just go to the entire terrain board thing and make terrain..you don't have to use ISOM for terrain, people just prefer that but not me since im always doing extended.

Not True...

When i was more active on SC i used to see Clokr all the time on west. sometimes he'd come over to east, I Saw him at the CTF Tourny last year....when else?

Afew times in dec i think