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Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-13 at 08:42:59
Well lads and ladies. I had a thread where I listed the maps I knew of that wouldn't work with 1.14 because of overlaps. Anyways this thread was deleted by some idiot wink.gif

So, now I found out, that there are more maps not working anymore and not because they use overlaps.

For example all the Cat and Mice Jungle maps aren't working anymore (besides alot other maps).

It's not that you couldn't join them, this works, but actually no one is able to download these maps from the host.

And I'm sure that this problem destroys way more maps, than overlapping ever did.

Is anyone here able to tell me what the reason is for this to happen?

I went to bnet forums and a few people did talk about this but noone had the reason for this to happen. Some of them just sayd old maps wouldn't work anymore.

Then I checked the changelist but I couln't find out what the reason is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-13 at 09:06:06
The host probably had a firewall on...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-13 at 09:30:45
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Aug 13 2006, 02:05 PM)
The host probably had a firewall on...
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Thats not the reason. Because some maps work fine (as they should) others with overlaps aren't joinable at all. And these maps I'm taling about are joinable but not downloadable. No matter what. And it was also mentioned on bnet forums but there was noone who knew the reason for this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sopris on 2006-08-13 at 09:41:03
You can join but they won't dl? I always get "Unable to join selected game" messages.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-08-13 at 10:31:38
I don't think that a map cause this. It's probably bad host or something else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-13 at 12:08:27
QUOTE(DEAD @ Aug 13 2006, 03:31 PM)
I don't think that a map cause this. It's probably bad host or something else.
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Well only the fact that you wont see any more cat and mouse jungle games on battle.net tells me that it's not bad host.

Remember that it was the most played cat and mouse game before 1.14. So I am still asking does anyone know the reason for this? It must be something with the map.

Addition: And as I said before on bnet forums theres also talks about this problem. I spotted at least 2 threads about it.

And if you believe it's bad host go on battle.net and start a regular c&m jungle game like c&m jungle 10.1 and wait for people to join. No one will download the map and if you press go it says that there is map download.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Owyn on 2006-08-13 at 12:19:29
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no one is able to download these maps from the host.

hey, i have some maps, where even host allways has 0% of map dl, so can start normally... i say wtf? too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smilodon on 2006-08-16 at 07:37:58
confused.gif Never seen this problem
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Owyn on 2006-08-16 at 10:20:13
add symbolse like "&" "#" etc to the maps name, you will see that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-16 at 10:37:56
QUOTE(Owyn @ Aug 16 2006, 03:19 PM)
add symbolse like "&" "#" etc to the maps name, you will see that.
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That would tell everything I wanted to know!

Thanks alot. You'r the only one on the whole internet to answer this question.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vi3t_X on 2006-08-17 at 16:15:04
That actually never happens. Overlapping may cause problems but it doesnt mean that u are unable to download the map. Either the host has a bad ISP (aka. slow) or there is something wrong with his server. You cant join a heavilly damaged server, but others may be able to join due to distances...

And for a fact. I have played C&M maps (they were my first UMS maps too lol). They work fine. Many people have hosted, many still play... Whats the problem you have? Mine works just fine, and when my cousin tries to connect to any C&M game, he enters fine... Check your System Info... BIOS, config... everything... lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-17 at 19:18:08
I don't know what you try to tell me but it was all about the & wink.gif Somehow you seem to have only cat and mouse maps where the name says cat AND mouse instead of cat & mouse.

All those funny corrupt host stories all for nothing biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vi3t_X on 2006-08-18 at 19:59:52
Cat and Mouse
Cat & Mouse
Cat And Mouse v10.1 fixed by [name]


I have them all, even crystal warz including terran but it works FINE
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Koltz on 2006-08-19 at 09:10:57
PGTour maps also dont work
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Heegu on 2006-08-19 at 11:04:58
I spotted a odd thing in tux:s A&O trailer.. When i host it and press start it tells me that there is still a dl going... And i'm alone. And it had no overflaps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-19 at 15:34:15
QUOTE(Heegu @ Aug 19 2006, 04:04 PM)
I spotted a odd thing in tux:s A&O trailer.. When i host it and press start it tells me that there is still a dl going... And i'm alone. And it had no overflaps.
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It's because of the &
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KABOOM on 2006-08-19 at 16:20:09
actually he wasnt the only one i recently correct a friends map that had the same issue and i figured that the symboles in map saved as names canot have symboles for the most part so just try and keep too normal letters
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vi3t_X on 2006-08-19 at 17:18:42
omg... you mean i took the the time to make underlines under my title name, and now i have to get rid of it? OMFG I HATE THIS PATCH
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-08-19 at 18:35:48
Just make normal map names. All those !№%?*@#$^& characters doesn't make your map better in any way...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)Matt_Burch on 2006-08-19 at 19:43:03
I hosted a map called &&&&& and some1 dled it..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-08-19 at 20:53:37
Yeah, I've recently downloaded the Cat & Mouse maps as if there were no issues. Oddly enough, however, my StarEdit wont let me save any maps with ^, &, and * in the file name though I was still able to download a map with "&" in it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-08-19 at 20:58:46
QUOTE(Oo.Phoenix.oO @ Aug 20 2006, 12:42 AM)
I hosted a map called &&&&& and some1 dled it..
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I guess your talking about the filename closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-08-19 at 21:00:56
I think Phoenix was referring to the map name, not the filename. Try naming the file &&&&& and then hosting it. I can't because my editor wont let me put & in the name, as I said earlier.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Scheisse on 2006-08-28 at 01:45:16
Yeah, maps with "&" cannot be played anymore. My friend tried to let me host a map called War & Peace 1900 and it wouldn't download, lol. I could download other maps from him perfectly fine though. Also, another thing that has come with this gay patch is the new crash bugs. My friend Dark_lunatic_K's Sky Squadron Tourney uses like Player 13 in-game and now it crashes from the new patch. It's basically a destroyed map now... Gay! disgust.gif Try it for yourself... closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-29 at 11:24:04
At least it's not a hard problem to fix... you don't even need to unprotect the map, just rename the file.
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