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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-08-25 at 00:15:26
No offense but... what's going on in this forum these days? Where is this Mod Team, and all the shiny new mods? I'm debating starting to drop not so subtle hints that you might want to start fleeing to Clan [MM]. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-08-25 at 08:33:32
Well, the leaders (DTBK and DoA) refuse on starting on a mod untill the "practice" mod is finished,
which everyone's too lazy to work on since it's boring to just mod one unit...

I think that sums up our history pretty good, and in only 2 sentences! tongue.gif

ADDITION: we also have a bunch of members listed that left, we only have about 4 real members now. (only 3 active)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-25 at 12:13:06
The 'practice' mod only needs the icons added into it. Other than that, it functions(oh, energy changed too...).

I am devoting my time to Firegraft, a tool for modding. It also meets with my 'job' of Crack, no foul there. Also, ideas for a mod have been rather strongly requireing a mem patcher(which is what FG is)....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-08-25 at 16:06:51
I would like to make the icons but "Pauper" the one that comes once in a while to criticize us that we don't do anything compromised himself of doing them, if i was asked to and recieved apologies from pauper i would do them.
Besides everyone is using
"Lets wait until DoA Finishes FG so we can start to mod"
And oh well...

I'm debating starting to drop not so subtle hints that you might want to start fleeing to Clan [MM].

1. Clan MM is for people interested in modding, i don't think this people is tongue.gif
2. omg! a hidden attack to MM
3. Yay, more possible members for MM

tongue.gif, Brb
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-25 at 16:20:56
I'm here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-08-25 at 18:50:47
I don't see why nobody on the graphics team wants to do any work. The problem with this team is we have zero graphics talent; just a bunch of shirkers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-08-25 at 21:55:26
...what ever happened to the idea of inviting NirvanaJung to join us? tongue.gif

I can be a help guru if you want, but the position's probably useless if we never start a actual mod...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-08-25 at 23:49:00
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Aug 25 2006, 04:50 PM)
I don't see why nobody on the graphics team wants to do any work.  The problem with this team is we have zero graphics talent; just a bunch of shirkers.

Shirkers...let me find a dictionary.
someone who avoids something, especially work

yes, just what i needed to motivate myself and get to work!

I'm here.

The attack was not to you tongue.gif

And oh yeah..... Because i had enough of comments like that i say that you should remove me from the sen-mod "roster" i'm sick of people telling to all the graphics in general that they do nothing when i have done something. i'm just going to leave with all the graphics i made for this and get them in CorboboCraft... let's see how many graphics you got left..........nirvanajung's practice mod ion cannon?...1?

Have fun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pauper on 2006-08-26 at 21:53:44
Ok, well I did my work, and no one told me what to do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-26 at 23:23:54
The way I see it, we really need 2 things -

1. 3D animators to make unit models. Probably 2 or 3 that are fairly good.
2. A directed idea. Like a TC or major mod that would keep everyone busy. Given the right tasks at the right time, there'd be work for everyone.

Without the first, we can't do most of our ideas, even if FG was done. I'm not the one directing this show(never have been)...but those are my suggestions. As I've posed to several members, some a part of this team and some not, I have a large idea that would qualify for #2. Getting artists is a different matter. I'm sure most of the team members could do concept art...but modeling isn't something we are strong with.

If we could get a couple of committed 3d artists+refill/reorganize the other positions, we could really take off with my idea. It's something I think could happen...but it takes cooperation and some 3d modelers.

Something to 'chew' on. I could just be rambling on, I'm tired...but if it sounds good, why not try to get us doing stuff?

ADDITION - Oh...I forgot one other thing. My idea(which would work for us, I think) would have to be tweaked to fit an entire team instead of just 1-2 people working on it...if anything is to be done with it for the mod-team, I'd be nice to have a 'heads-up' so I can get everything organized right...

I'm going to sleep now...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-08-26 at 23:56:00
We need good artists. Know any? (that would be willing to join).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-08-27 at 09:04:49
I can do the modeling and animating, I just can't render it in order to paint it, or render the final model into bmp's... sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-28 at 16:15:14
If you all want to spread this around, anyone who does come to the team as a modeler will be entitled to recieve a slot in FG's beta test. So far, I have about 4-5 people(not a part of this team) and anyone who is a member of this team is my tenative beta testers...if I ever get there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pauper on 2006-09-04 at 03:02:22
The guy at Project Revolution is good, he is making his own mod.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-09-04 at 13:05:22
And if anyone needs buttons, I'm the one to go to. Buttons! Buttons and other 2D art.

Gimme a sec to look in the main topic and check for any button work outstanding.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-05 at 01:16:04
*Icons. I need someone to get all the icons into a grp file.
*Sounds. Okay, so I need a hit sound.
*Iscript. The working animation for the reseach facility needs to be finished.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2006-09-05 at 08:50:24
i only just realised this forum was here...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-09-05 at 16:06:27're very observant... tongue.gif

When this Summer Modding Contest (SMC) ends, I think we should start on an actual project, whether we get the leader's permission or not.

After all, if their leadership is telling us to do nothing and wait for them while this team falls apart, I say we ignore them.

Wouldn't having an un-successful mod be better than having no mod at all? (the few that are still active could help with it.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-09-05 at 16:23:34
Unfortunately, I possess neither the skills nor the technology to collect everything into one file, and my parents are very picky about downloads.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-09-05 at 19:05:40
Well, as I've stated before - I have a mod idea that will take everyone on the team to work on....Voy can vouch for it(he's seen it)

And the Ion Cannon mod only needs those few things(meaning I get to remake the .mgp file....I was stupid and took shortcuts and didn't use SG...)

Mainly, I don't have time to make all the icons into cmdicons.grp. I just need someone to do that, tell me what index the new icons are, and I can get that done. That's really the main thing I see undone with it. Looking at BLANK is not good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-09-05 at 20:18:47
DoA, can you post what you already have on this mod you keep talking about?
I'd like to get a look at it, improve some ideas, add my concepts/ideas, etc.

Also, we could actually make your mod once the Summer Modding Contest ends, so showing me your ideas could help with the planning stages, making it easier to start it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-09-05 at 21:06:55
Okay, below is a copy of a txt file that gives a very general idea of the mod. The specifics are still being worked out...mainly so I can keep balance. A lot of ideas I have require stuff that FG would do, because that's how I planned it.
Text of Anispar1.txt
Okay, here's some stuff that I've got...(best viewed with Lucidia Console(or another fixed font)

Race Descriptions(between these, the names, and the trees, that's all you can see.  The rest is just ideas in my head:

Shadowspawn(replaces ZERG):

This race is a unique race, with 2 polar oposites during the course of the game.  The base units are cheap, 2 in 1 egg units.  They have spells that are self targeting.  They're your meat and potatoes units, designed to allow for macro focus at the beginning of a game.  After that, most units become high cost spell casters.  This demands the abandonment of macro for a heavy micro focus.  Their spells are high cost, but overly powerful.  However, to decrease the need, supply will be rather well handled by the buildings.  Burrow is used for this race, however, they do not appear 'underground', it becomes more of a phase-out.  But, their main power is their air units.

Regulator(replaces TERRAN):

This race hurts you, and it hurts hard.  Most units are heavy units that deal insane amounts of damage.  Their economy doesn't really need much attention, but the supply does.  Their techs are specialized, and you best not make a mistake, because the cost is too high to go back from, and there's some things you can't cancel.  The tech tree is a semi-addon based one, but balanced so addon-swaping doesn't happen.  Of course, since there are't too many units, the mobile buildings move fast to expansions.  Theirs is a balance between air and ground units.  when a decision for a tech is made, the addon is created, but the parent looses liftoff capability.

Solai(replaces PROTOSS):

The ground to rule all ground.  Their early units are not all the best, but have enough to hold stuff off.  Their spellcasters are meant to help in early-mid game.  Their air units also come early, but aren't strong.  Once tech is hit in mid game, it branches to the higher air+med ground, or to the strong ground.  The ground maxes the supply fast, so the other option(on the first side of the tech) is to nuke(not a nuke...similar...).  Early game is macro, late is up to the player.

TECHTREES.  It's not all that much to get the entire tree from...but it's enough for me right now.  If it isn't formatted right, you didn't listen when I said fixed system font.  

       Viropool- -Glyth Mound-----------            Cluster
                       |               |               |
                    (morph)     Terraform Expander-----|---------
                       |               |        |      |        |
                       |<-<-<-<-<-Lycor Pit     |      |        |
       Shroud<-<-<-<-Hollow->->->->->->->->->->Crypt   |        |
                       |                        |      |        |
                       |<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<--     Nest->->->Spore

Glyth Mound
 -Lycoren(Lycor Pit) - basic g
  -Kizen(Hollow) - other g
  -Phantom(Crypt) - spell 1
  +Hunter(Crypt+Shroud+tech) - anti-personnel
  -Nightstalker(Nest) - anti-air
  -Wyte(Nest) - spy
   -Shryke(Cavern) - air fighter
   -Shade(Shrine) - siege
   +Pursuer(Ahryl) - capital
   -Warden(Ahryl) - transport
   -Lyrh(Darkpool) - Suicide/spell
   +Specter(Darkpool) - spell(air-air)
 -Banshee(Highlair) - spell
 -Weaver(Highlair) - suicide spell


      Supplier- - - - -HQ- - - - -Outpost- - - -Processor
                Production Center
                     / || \
                    /  ||  \
                   /   ||   \
                  /    ||    \
                 /     ||     \
                /      ||      \
               /       ||       \
Barricade==Garrison     ||     Arsenal
            |          ||         |
Cybernetics--|--Research Facility--|--Metalics Research
Research    |          ||         |
            /\         ||         /\
           /  \        ||        /  \
          /    \       ||       /    \
         /      \      ||      /      \
        /        \     ||     /        \
  Neurocyber   Plasma  || Ion Chamber  Shipyard
   Chamber      Lab    ||     |           |
       \         |     ||     |           |
        \        |     ||     |           |
         \       | Chemical   |        Hydrolab
          \      |\  Works    |
           \     / \          |
            \   /   \--------Fusion
         Ops Center         Academy

Outpost(Return Supply)
-Shock Trooper
-Ion Lancer
Production Center(Must have HQ)
Garrison(must not have Arsenal unless you own an Agency)
Aresnal(must not have Garrison unless you own an Agency)
 -Shock Trooper
Research Facility(Required Production Center with addon)
Plasma Lab(Requires Garrison)
 -Plasma Controller
Neurocyber Works(Requires Garrison)
 -Warden(Detector spell/Ground Transport)
Shipyard(Requires Arsenal)
 -AA-2R Streamer
 -Stingray(Detector spell/Air Transport)
Ion Chamber(Requires Arsenal)
 -Ion Lancer
Metalics Research(Requires Arsenal+Research Facility)
Cybernetics Research(Requires Garrison+Research Facility)
Chemical Works(Research Facility with Addon)
Fission Academy(Requires Plasma Lab or Ion Chamber)
 -Plasma Tank
Ops Center(Requiers Ion Chamber or Neurocyber Works)
Hydrolab(Requires Shipyard)
 -ASC Juggernaut
 -SSC Maurader
Barricade(Requires Garrison)(Bunker)
Hangar(Requires Research Facility with addon)
-TAA Defender
Agency(Requires Chemical Works with addon)(Allows new tech tree line)
Automated Turret(Requires Production Center)


  collector- - -High Citadel- - - -Matrix Generator
                    |   \
                    |    \
                    |     \
                    |      \    
            Archine Hall   Luminar Beacon
               |\                  |\
               | \                 | \
               |  \                |  \
               |   \               |   \
               |    \              |   Library
               |     \             |
               |      \            |
Archine Foundation  Star Matrix   Monolith
       |               |               |
       |               |-Light Chamber |
       |               |               |
       |            Automator          |
Archine Sanctuary                Luminar Altar
       \                               /
        \                             /
         \                           /
          \                         /
           \                       /
            \                     /
               |               |
               |               |
           Solar Cell     Solar Gate

High Citadel
-Acolyte(needs gas)
-Disciple(Archine Foundation)
Archine Hall
-Archine Defender
-Arcihne Elite(Requires Sanctuary)
Star Matrix
-Sentinel(Air fighter)
-Pulsator(requires Light Chamber)
-Raycaster(requires Light Chamber)
-Coreship(requires Automator)
Luminar Beacon
-Luminar Channeler
-Luminar Prophet(Requires Monolith)
-Luminar Avatar(Requires Luminar Altar)
Solar Cell
-Arc Caster
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-09-05 at 21:13:00
Well, I copied that into notepad and it appeard exactly the same... blink.gif

maybe if you attached the actual file? tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-09-05 at 21:21:56
Attachments are broken.

Well, I removed it because it didn't format the way I wanted. Maybe I'll add it back if I get the format right again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-06 at 00:15:25
I just want to finish off the Ion Cannon before we start anything else for parading purposes and a new recruit session.

It shouldn't take too much longer if someone just puts in the work.
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