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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-10 at 12:28:05
As said above, if you rate lower than a five(5) please tell me what you rated them, why you rated them, which pictures influenced your rating, and post a picture of something similar that you think looks better to you and state why. This might seem demanding, but it is nice to know what you think looks good, and what you think looks bad. If you are unable to find a picture that looks better to you, then I will most likely disregard your vote tongue.gif (some circumstances may veto the previous sentence). I want to know your opinion so VOTE! smile.gif Here are the pictures:


Enclosed Lake and HD-LD Blending:
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1ft7.png

Custom Ramp w/ Runes-Grass Blending:
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2jq3.png

Custom Ramp and Cliffs:
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3zp4.png

Revised Custom Ramp w/ Runes-Grass Blending(in-game ss):
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4wa8.jpg

Ramps n' Doodading:
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5dt6.png

Open Ramp and Grass w/ Doodading:
http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6zv8.png

Mountain w/ Doodaing and Back-Ramp:
http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=halloffame2rs3.jpg

Ramp/Cave Hybrid w/ Custom Hole and Temple Custom Doodads:
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=halloffamegc4.jpg

(Not all of the pictures displayed above are new)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-09-10 at 13:37:51
I gave it a 7 but the caption isnt why instead of 2 or 3 big mistakes there a bunch of little ones

Good job tho I like them smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-09-10 at 13:46:31
5/10.

I didnt see any eye catchers. Your use of sprites on almost every terrain adds extra work that may or may not be neeeded.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-10 at 14:00:36
Some are better than others. Some are worth maybe up to a 9, while others will barely get a 5.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-09-10 at 14:19:20
"Ramps n' Doodading"
Has a height issue, as essentially with all other "side" and "backwards" ramps, they make it appear as if the surrounding terrain is level with the heightened terrain, while the cliff faces are in clear contradiction of this. Even though they might be "cool" blends, they're essentially useless, since they ruin perspective. If you were to have a formation like that in real life, the high dirt would have to bend down in that direction, which it obviously cannot. Other than perspective issues, a few small blockiness issues, it's pretty nice stuff.

It's just sort of all the same thing though, there doesn't seem to be much ambience going on. One of the most important things is to make sure your raised areas aren't islands in a sea of dirt, make them be in the corners of the map, make them be large walls of rock that encase the player. Remember also that there aren't always pillars of rock or trees everywhere, some areas in nature are simply flat, and some are desolate. Careful variation over mindless clutter.

6/10
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-09-10 at 14:21:11
7/10

After looking at them quickly found 2 not-well blended parts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2006-09-10 at 15:06:44
8. On some of them, I think picture 2, they are a little bit blocky... But overall, very nice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-10 at 15:17:28
QUOTE(Mini_Goose_2707 @ Sep 10 2006, 10:46 AM)
5/10.

I didnt see any eye catchers. Your use of sprites on almost every terrain adds extra work that may or may not be neeeded.
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I counted 4 sprites...

QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Sep 10 2006, 11:00 AM)
Some are better than others. Some are worth maybe up to a 9, while others will barely get a 5.
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Can you rate each on individually please.

QUOTE(Jammed @ Sep 10 2006, 11:20 AM)
7/10

After looking at them quickly found 2 not-well blended parts.
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Which picture and where please.




Thanks everyone for your ratings. I value your opinions. Those of you that mentioned blockiness or other issues, can you please state in which picture and where? It might be something that slipped past my eye and I might be able to fix it. smile.gif Thanks again. Keep the ratings coming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-10 at 16:00:53
If I must...

1st - Not bad, small tad of blockiness and trees look out of place. 8.5/10

2nd - Also not bad, your dirt>ruins blends are blocky, but there aren't many tiles for that, so its not so bad. I don't really like the general feel of the piece as a whole though. 7/10

3rd - The top of the ramp made me barf. There are a few other minor blockiness spots as well. 4.5/10

4th - I like what you've done here, but above the ramp there is a bit of blockiness. 7.5/10

5th - There is blockiness, height problems, and it doesn't look that great. 3/10

6th - I can see what you were going for, but I don't think you pulled off the ramps. 5.5/10

7th - The bottom half might get an 8/10, but the height problems at the top take it down to 5.5/10

8th - Other than the giant line in the ramp, it looks nice. 8/10
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dragoon-elf on 2006-09-10 at 16:03:58
Wow dude you are going to say all that about my stuff yet looking at yours I am saying wow...and I thought you were such a pro to only give me a 1!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-10 at 19:15:45
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Sep 10 2006, 01:00 PM)
If I must...

1st - Not bad, small tad of blockiness and trees look out of place. 8.5/10

2nd - Also not bad, your dirt>ruins blends are blocky, but there aren't many tiles for that, so its not so bad. I don't really like the general feel of the piece as a whole though. 7/10

3rd - The top of the ramp made me barf. There are a few other minor blockiness spots as well. 4.5/10

4th - I like what you've done here, but aboveĀ  the ramp there is a bit of blockiness. 7.5/10

5th - There is blockiness, height problems, and it doesn't look that great. 3/10

6th - I can see what you were going for, but I don't think you pulled off the ramps. 5.5/10

7th - The bottom half might get an 8/10, but the height problems at the top take it down to 5.5/10

8th - Other than the giant line in the ramp, it looks nice. 8/10
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1st - Agreed.
2nd - Agreed. The mirrored ramp kind of bugs me along with the the extended stuff being shrouded by isometrical.
3rd - Agreed. The left side as well as the top of that ramp is ridiculously blocky. I kind of threw it in as an after thought and it wasn't in the original design...
4th - Are you talking about the bridge tiles? This is the one type of blend(ramp->bridge transition->dirt) I didn't use very much. I normally use ramp->rune->grass->dirt but i wanted something different here.
5th - Hmmm... Are we looking at the same pic? According to what you said compared to my rating scale, it deserves a 4... (you did read the rating scale right?)
6th - I think you just don't like the ramp style I used in this on for the top, and in the last pic for the bottom of the side ramp...
7th - I think you are just prejudice against back and side ramps... Then again this is your opinion. smile.gif
8th - I wouldn't call that giant...

Overall, I think the only thing you might want to reconsider is your opinion about back/side ramps, and your ability to decipher my motive behind my actions. Some of the things you marked me down for were things I did on purpose for variety. When everything looks the same it looks mundane. Thanks for your time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-10 at 19:22:11
I just don't think it looks like its going down. But that's just my opinion. They aren't easy to pull off, I sure as hell couldn't do it tongue.gif

ADD: Oh, and I wasn't really using your criteria. Those were ratings I made up myself tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-10 at 22:33:23
So what did you end up rating them as a whole?

ADDITION:
Ok, disregarding a 1(no one justified) and my vote(a 10 jk), the average sits at about 7.3. That's just incase you were to lazy to open up the on screen calculatore tongue.gif .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2006-09-11 at 00:05:29
Pretty good stuff...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-11 at 11:15:02
Can I ask what you rated Ninebreaker?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-09-11 at 13:44:10
There were a couple area where your transition from highdirt to low was blocky, a few ruins tiles seemed out of sync, and there were minor issues with blending two different doodads together. Overall though it was about a 7.5/10.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-12 at 18:05:18
Thanks. Thats about what I rate them at as well.

ADDITION:
Average is exactly 7.2. Thanks for all the votes smile.gif .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mightybass101 on 2006-09-13 at 08:40:29
Good 8/10 overall, try moving on to something other than jungle, its beginner terrain. On a few too many sprites, but i think you did good blend jobs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord-Omega on 2006-09-13 at 08:56:18
10/10 best stuff ive seen out of some of these ppl....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-14 at 19:03:29
QUOTE(Mightybass101 @ Sep 13 2006, 05:40 AM)
Good 8/10 overall, try moving on to something other than jungle, its beginner terrain. On a few too many sprites, but i think you did good blend jobs.
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There are 4 sprites...??? Compared to many that is extremely little...

QUOTE(Lord-Omega @ Sep 13 2006, 05:55 AM)
10/10 best stuff ive seen out of some of these ppl....
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Thanks... You couldn't find any problems at all???

ADDITION:
Average now sits at about 7.4
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WoodenFire on 2006-09-14 at 20:58:01
How the hell is this 10/10 perfect... Jello, I truely hope you don't value that judgement, nore do you judge those 2 votes for 0/10...

I would definitely say this is definitely somewhere in the range 9 to 5. The average of that being a 7... I voted a 6, but in SEN, this stuff is definitely an 8...

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-14 at 21:10:26
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ Sep 14 2006, 07:57 PM)
How the hell is this 10/10 perfect... Jello, I truely hope you don't value that judgement, nore do you judge those 2 votes for 0/10...

I would definitely say this is definitely somewhere in the range 9 to 5. The average of that being a 7... I voted a 6, but in SEN, this stuff is definitely an 8...

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HOLY FARKING WATERFIRES WOODEN GAVE SOME ONE A DECENT RATING!!!

-Le0n
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2006-09-14 at 21:35:22
not bad pretty good
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jello-Jigglers on 2006-09-16 at 16:08:11
QUOTE(WoodenFire @ Sep 14 2006, 05:57 PM)
How the hell is this 10/10 perfect... Jello, I truely hope you don't value that judgement, nore do you judge those 2 votes for 0/10...

I would definitely say this is definitely somewhere in the range 9 to 5. The average of that being a 7... I voted a 6, but in SEN, this stuff is definitely an 8...
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I know. I don't personly think anything can be 10/10... I didn't count the 0's. As for my rating, I gave it a 7 overall.
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