Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-09-14 at 07:33:11
Blizzard removed a lot of cool stuff in EUDs and extended players and such, as you all know.
Well, maybe if we all ask blizzard enough they might add some alternative for us to use now that EUDs and such are gone?
You know, like triggers to detect keystrokes, and stuff like that, that EUDs were used for that don't work anymore?
Is there any reason they wouldn't? It would probably make Starcraft more popular = more sells, no?
Well, maybe if we all ask blizzard enough they might add some alternative for us to use now that EUDs and such are gone?
You know, like triggers to detect keystrokes, and stuff like that, that EUDs were used for that don't work anymore?
Is there any reason they wouldn't? It would probably make Starcraft more popular = more sells, no?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-09-14 at 11:15:32
Every time Blizzard patches StarCraft, EUD offsets are changed. Formerly, Blizzard patched EUD actions because there was a possibility of creating malicious viruses with it. Patch 1.14, however, was designed to eliminate many hacks and enhance melee games for the WGTour.
Most likely, Blizzard never cared about EUDs in the first place.
Most likely, Blizzard never cared about EUDs in the first place.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-09-14 at 11:18:31
Oh. So EUDs can still be made, but the EUD offsets have to be found again every patch?
Would it be possible for a program to be made that does this automatically?
That could be very useful, I think..
Would it be possible for a program to be made that does this automatically?
That could be very useful, I think..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-09-14 at 11:40:18
The offsets are actually a lot harder to find than you seem to think, as thet are completely randomized, and depending on how major the patch will determine the amount of offsets changed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-09-14 at 12:18:38
QUOTE(GoldenKnight @ Sep 14 2006, 12:15 PM)
Most likely, Blizzard never cared about EUDs in the first place.
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WRONG. Blizzard didn't care about EUD CONDITIONS. EUD Actions are another story. They specifically patched the actions because it was possible to load viruses through maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-09-14 at 15:13:34
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Sep 14 2006, 09:18 AM)
WRONG. Blizzard didn't care about EUD CONDITIONS. EUD Actions are another story. They specifically patched the actions because it was possible to load viruses through maps.
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Hi,
if they were specifically going after what could be used for viruses, wouldn't they just patch that vulnerability and leave the harmless things like.. er.. I dunno.. directly adding/subtracting from HP and stuff like that? So maybe the offsets or whatever just have to be found again?
Or.. is there no chance of this?
Oh! And what about the extended players? What has changed that is causing them to crash? Is there a way to get around it? (Besides downgrading and thus not being able to use bnet)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-09-14 at 17:05:17
ugh, why is it taking them so long to add these to the dldb.
home.earthlink.net/~doodlethe1/Input_System_1.14.scx
home.earthlink.net/~doodlethe1/Mouse114.scx
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-09-14 at 20:40:26
QUOTE(Doodle77(MM) @ Sep 14 2006, 02:04 PM)
ugh, why is it taking them so long to add these to the dldb.
home.earthlink.net/~doodlethe1/Input_System_1.14.scx
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Hi
In Input_System_1.14.scx if I move the screen using my mouse, it has the same effect as if I used the arrow keys.
Is there a way to detect the differance?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-09-14 at 20:46:27
If you combine the two maps, i guess you can 
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.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sopris on 2006-09-15 at 14:57:55
QUOTE(Azu @ Sep 14 2006, 04:32 AM)
...Well, maybe if we all ask blizzard enough they might add some alternative for us to use now that EUDs and such are gone?
You know, like triggers to detect keystrokes, and stuff like that, that EUDs were used for that don't work anymore?...
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You know, like triggers to detect keystrokes, and stuff like that, that EUDs were used for that don't work anymore?...
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That would be very very nice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-09-15 at 16:43:50
BTW, extended players still work, but they offsets have changed, so the effects of each player has changed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-10-22 at 16:44:39
Oh, cool!
Any idea which one increases game speed now?
Any idea which one increases game speed now?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-10-22 at 17:28:07
Why don't you research it?