Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-19 at 23:24:18
This wasn't made to be anything derogatory to the SEN team, but I am wondering if the SEN Staff/Moderators will abandon its Clan Hosting Policy if its beloved Clan (U) forum dies of inactivity. (10-15 (U) members have been past moderators and (U) members are ususually all the favorites) No other map-making clan hosted has ever had a moderator choosen from it. Also, Yoshi was in (U). Now that SEN doesn't have as many (U) moderators, because they left for odd reasons, this is one more reason why it might be anxious to get rid of the forums. I heard from a past friend of mine who was/is a moderator that Moose has no plans to host anymore clans on SEN. I am beginning to believe this is true. Considering that oO is planning on becoming a multi-subject clan I believe SEN will do something underhanded and say they will no longer be allowed to have a forum because of it. I think it is in the best interest of this site to allow a [xM] invitation, like they did along time ago to (U). I really have nothing much against Shocko[xM] and Clan [xM], just that he should leave our Mp) forum for everyones best interests. Even DTBK, the Global Moderator, recently said clan forums should not be hosted. That was extremely offensive to all the clans. The removal of the forums, and various other admin changes, will probably be met with approval from the "1000" other Moose suck-ups all trying to become a moderator themselves. If Moose was to reinstate Legacy today all would believe it was the right thing to do.
This new sign is something to think about, SEN showing its authority.
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WARNING: Posts in this forum fall under the complete jurisdiction of SEN Terms of Service and rules. Any such violations are equally punishable in a Clan Forum.
This new sign is something to think about, SEN showing its authority.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-19 at 23:49:49
Gee, I wonder why SEN seems prejudiced to hate Mp) and Oo. when you can't seem to stop yourselves from having clan wars and internal fights every other day.
(U) was originally hosted as a personal favor to Bolt_Head, whom, regardless of who you talk to, was a really wise and mature person. After seeing (U) hosted, the rest of the clans on SEN started yammering to get their forums too.
If your interest is keeping clan forums around, I would highly suggest you stop inciting clan fights. The purpose of a SEN clan forum is to give publicity and positive support for a clan, not to provide a nice arena with bright lights for clan fights.
Why did I all of a sudden get pissed at you tonight? It has something to do with the flood of reports and requests I got regarding flaming and banning people.
The bottom line is that, as stated in our clan hosting policy, we won't support clans in any kind of war. All of the clans you seem to think are being "hated", continually end up in fights.
Need a counterexample to the (U) bias theory? Try [MM]. They have been peacable and friendly, and notice that their forum isn't getting warnings tacked all over it.
(U) was originally hosted as a personal favor to Bolt_Head, whom, regardless of who you talk to, was a really wise and mature person. After seeing (U) hosted, the rest of the clans on SEN started yammering to get their forums too.
If your interest is keeping clan forums around, I would highly suggest you stop inciting clan fights. The purpose of a SEN clan forum is to give publicity and positive support for a clan, not to provide a nice arena with bright lights for clan fights.
Why did I all of a sudden get pissed at you tonight? It has something to do with the flood of reports and requests I got regarding flaming and banning people.
The bottom line is that, as stated in our clan hosting policy, we won't support clans in any kind of war. All of the clans you seem to think are being "hated", continually end up in fights.
Need a counterexample to the (U) bias theory? Try [MM]. They have been peacable and friendly, and notice that their forum isn't getting warnings tacked all over it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-19 at 23:56:36
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If your interest is keeping clan forums around, I would highly suggest you stop inciting clan fights.
I have never incited a clan fight.
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Why did I all of a sudden get pissed at you tonight? It has something to do with the flood of reports and requests I got regarding flaming and banning people.
Pissed at me? What did I do? I have no warn.
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Gee, I wonder why SEN seems prejudiced to hate Mp) and Oo.
Congratulations, you just admitted SEN was prejudiced.
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Need a counterexample to the (U) bias theory? Try [MM]. They have been peacable and friendly, and notice that their forum isn't getting warnings tacked all over it.
They have moderators in SEN.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-20 at 00:03:41
Also, I should say that nothing in any warnings tacked up differs from standard policy here: http://www.staredit.net/1337v5/?p=faq&do=view&id=21. The only difference is some of the policy infringement has been brought to my attention.
You collective; you and all of you people constantly freaking out about clans.
I'm pissed at just about everyone who posted in this topic. All of it was totally uncalled for and just about every post in there could warrant a warn if I was feeling strict.
I said SEN may seem prejudiced. Clearly it does, since you think we are. We are prejudiced against no member based on their clan afilliation, but our opinions of people constantly involved in flaming certainly drops, yes. This, however, is not prejudice as we are judging you based on your actions.
[MM] is inhabited mostly by happy and mature people. Being in [MM] does not give you a better chance at moderating; but the clan seems to atrract people who have positive qualities, clanless or not.
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I have never incited a clan fight.
You collective; you and all of you people constantly freaking out about clans.
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Pissed at me? What did I do? I have no warn.
I'm pissed at just about everyone who posted in this topic. All of it was totally uncalled for and just about every post in there could warrant a warn if I was feeling strict.
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Congratulations, you just admitted SEN was prejudiced.
I said SEN may seem prejudiced. Clearly it does, since you think we are. We are prejudiced against no member based on their clan afilliation, but our opinions of people constantly involved in flaming certainly drops, yes. This, however, is not prejudice as we are judging you based on your actions.
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They have moderators in SEN.
[MM] is inhabited mostly by happy and mature people. Being in [MM] does not give you a better chance at moderating; but the clan seems to atrract people who have positive qualities, clanless or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 00:07:03
Perhaps you will use Mp)'s stupid war to remove it then?
Also, you said we should get lifes and not argue about stuff like that. You clearly have been here longer than all/most Mp) members.
Also, you said we should get lifes and not argue about stuff like that. You clearly have been here longer than all/most Mp) members.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-20 at 00:15:33
I am simply reminding you all of policy: if you can't stop having wars, then your forums will be removed.
If Mp) or any other clan has their forum removed because of a war, it will be because of the war, not because of some ulterior motive or prejudice I or Moose have.
If Mp) or any other clan has their forum removed because of a war, it will be because of the war, not because of some ulterior motive or prejudice I or Moose have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-09-20 at 01:28:55
Hey, you're sort of making a valid reason for why not to host clans on SEN. Problems like this start up, and maybe people on SEN like DTBK or moose don't really want to deal with them =\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-09-20 at 03:06:25
if i was around... this would never happen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-09-20 at 13:32:02
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I am wondering if the SEN Staff/Moderators will abandon its Clan Hosting Policy if its beloved Clan (U) forum dies of inactivity.
Why would the loss of Clan (U) suddenly make us want to get rid of all the clans? That would lead to the destruction of the (U) forum at worst, unless IP has something to say.
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(10-15 (U) members have been past moderators and (U) members are ususually all the favorites) No other map-making clan hosted has ever had a moderator choosen from it.
I don't consider clan status important when selecting a moderator. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that moderating mapping forums requires a lot of mapping knowledge and proper English... something that tends to found quite often in (U).
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I think it is in the best interest of this site to allow a [xM] invitation, like they did along time ago to (U).
xM does not get to bypass the application process. (U) never had to apply for a clan forum because there WERE no official applications at the time.
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I really have nothing much against Shocko[xM] and Clan [xM], just that he should leave our Mp) forum for everyones best interests.
Have your leader ban him with the clan CP. That's what it's for.
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The removal of the forums, and various other admin changes, will probably be met with approval from the "1000" other Moose suck-ups all trying to become a moderator themselves.
[sarcasm]Yeah. I really love DEAD, he REALLY sucks up to me all the time. Hey, look, it's Doodan! Running around screaming sweet sweet love of my name! Not to mention the 50 spam topics that TRiGGaMaSTa made which, normally would get you suspended... but because they were about how great I am, got hired him too.[/sarcasm]
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This new sign is something to think about, SEN showing its authority.
SEN policy applies in clan forums... regardless of whether or not any "signs" are there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-09-20 at 13:44:51
Well, whatever clan (U) used to be, it's soemthing very very different right now. I would even say that terrorists are leading it. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-09-20 at 14:04:01
Everything I was going to say has already been said except one thing, how does a forum die? If (U) members stop posting there, the forum is not "dead," they just don't care to post anything at the moment.
And its not like they aren't using it. Check the (U) Map topic for proof. Sure they may not have the same activity % as the other clans, but its not like the % means much more than a statistic.
And its not like they aren't using it. Check the (U) Map topic for proof. Sure they may not have the same activity % as the other clans, but its not like the % means much more than a statistic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-20 at 15:43:24
I'm sure xMCx that if you have any objections to clan's being hosted on SEN, you and your leaders can ask the admin to remove your forum from SEN and just stay out of the other ones, just because you find that you don't need a forum, it doesn't mean other clans can't have one.
(U) are great map makers i can admit to that, they are also mature and remain neutral in other clan's disputes.
Oo can often find themselves siding and their members may not always be mature but you will find that Solar is very good at trying to keep the peace.
Mp to my knowledge hasn't really been trouble untill the reign of your new leader, so why now that you guys are having a rough patch do you wan't to take the benefit of a hosted forum from all clans?
You may of noticed i didn't include MM but that is because they are a modding clan and i haven't really gotten to know many of them, but what i have seen they are very mature and talented.
I am not perfect for keeping flame to myself but after getting my 100% warn i am working on becoming more peaceful and i am settling my disbutes with Oo, aswell as working on becoming closer to (U).
(U) are great map makers i can admit to that, they are also mature and remain neutral in other clan's disputes.
Oo can often find themselves siding and their members may not always be mature but you will find that Solar is very good at trying to keep the peace.
Mp to my knowledge hasn't really been trouble untill the reign of your new leader, so why now that you guys are having a rough patch do you wan't to take the benefit of a hosted forum from all clans?
You may of noticed i didn't include MM but that is because they are a modding clan and i haven't really gotten to know many of them, but what i have seen they are very mature and talented.
I am not perfect for keeping flame to myself but after getting my 100% warn i am working on becoming more peaceful and i am settling my disbutes with Oo, aswell as working on becoming closer to (U).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 15:43:56
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And its not like they aren't using it. Check the (U) Map topic for proof. Sure they may not have the same activity % as the other clans, but its not like the % means much more than a statistic.
Then the admins need to remove the percentage and make a map quota for clans to have to make a month or every so often.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-09-20 at 17:27:39
xMCx, you are losing any respect I had very quickly.
There are plenty of people in other clans who had been moderators, and I doubt there is a person in any of the other clans who is better qualified (as Moose described) to be a moderator then the current moderators. If there was a (U) member who vuz liek dis, I doubt he would be made a moderator.
To make you feel better, list 3 people who are better qualified then the current moderators from clan Mp) or Oo to be a moderator based on mapping/modding knowledge, grammar, maturity, and activity.
Can you really say that Bolt_Head, Legacy, and the other high-position (U) moderators don't deserve their spot, and can you say that you want them out because they're in a certain clan? Now, it seems like you're prejudiced.
If (U) died/disbanded, you really think that the other clans would be kicked out? Seems like a very stupid line of thinking. Get off it. Mp) and Oo are still mapping clans that are respectable enough (
), and [MM] is nice, mature, and the only one of its kind I currently know of. If you still didn't get off that line of thinking, think of it like this: Moose would never make himself unpopular over something so minor as deleting forums.
And last of all: Leave what the admins do to them. I'm sure they won't be editing much in v4 since v5 is coming out soon enough, and I'm sure the opinion of yourself would change their mind on the matter.
There are plenty of people in other clans who had been moderators, and I doubt there is a person in any of the other clans who is better qualified (as Moose described) to be a moderator then the current moderators. If there was a (U) member who vuz liek dis, I doubt he would be made a moderator.
To make you feel better, list 3 people who are better qualified then the current moderators from clan Mp) or Oo to be a moderator based on mapping/modding knowledge, grammar, maturity, and activity.
Can you really say that Bolt_Head, Legacy, and the other high-position (U) moderators don't deserve their spot, and can you say that you want them out because they're in a certain clan? Now, it seems like you're prejudiced.
If (U) died/disbanded, you really think that the other clans would be kicked out? Seems like a very stupid line of thinking. Get off it. Mp) and Oo are still mapping clans that are respectable enough (
), and [MM] is nice, mature, and the only one of its kind I currently know of. If you still didn't get off that line of thinking, think of it like this: Moose would never make himself unpopular over something so minor as deleting forums.And last of all: Leave what the admins do to them. I'm sure they won't be editing much in v4 since v5 is coming out soon enough, and I'm sure the opinion of yourself would change their mind on the matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-09-20 at 17:38:54
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TRiGGaMaSTa made which, normally would get you suspended... but because they were about how great I am, got hired him too
So if I made 51 spam topics on how great you are I'd get hired and you'd fire triggamasta?[/scarcasm]
Anyway I'd have to agree with DT on this, its really getting outta hand, the Clan Mp forums have like 7 or 8 topics about how they hate their leader or are just flamming back and fourth. It's rather sad.
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Well, whatever clan (U) used to be, it's soemthing very very different right now. I would even say that terrorists are leading it.
Haha now the favorites MM
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 18:10:16
Looks like I was right on the OSMAP issue as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-09-20 at 18:27:58
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To make you feel better, list 3 people who are better qualified then the current moderators from clan Mp) or Oo to be a moderator based on mapping/modding knowledge, grammar, maturity, and activity.
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Me (I've been in Mp) and Oo). But that's just a matter of opinion, I suppose. Then again, I'd say I'm about par with the current Moderators as opposed to simply being better qualified.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-09-20 at 19:45:22
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They have moderators in SEN.
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For the same reason thatt he forum isn't being destroyed, you aren't very good at drawing conclusions for yourself, are you? Or is it that you're reaching so far to find prejudice, elitism, and anti-anything-ism in an officially designated dictatorship that you make things up that don't exist?
@Moosecakes, Doodan does scream sweet love at your name. But it's in a vengeful way.