Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-20 at 21:52:05
Keep all discussion of the proceedings in here. No flaming whatsoever will be tolerated.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 22:00:30
Vote for me as the Admin of the forums. I will put UBCS and Minigame incharge of the channel. I will rule fairly and give everyone a fair chance within the clan. I have had experience with (MC) and other clans. It was me who originally made the 20+ members rejoin after I asked pr0 to rejoin. Me and UBCS have talked about this and we have agreed to let me be the admin and he will apologize to everyone. Because UBCS is sometimes disliked, I will be leading the clan and with the Admin powers. If UBCS is liked amongst the clan he has a chance at becoming forum moderator in the future.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-20 at 22:03:07
Cut the bullcrap MC. Your just trying to get power to compensate for the loss of your dear (MC). Go try and take some one elses clan. Ive seen you in action, your indecisive, incompitent, and do not have any leadership qualities. As soon as the polls over, and you get power, youll throw UBCS out so you can take the clan.
DTBK can we change this so that they cant run political ads in here?
-Ex
DTBK can we change this so that they cant run political ads in here?
-Ex
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-20 at 22:03:42
Mp)Marine
He should be removed and fellas of mp, i want you to know this. Half of what ubcs said on that post was a lie. I called him an azn 2 times with fear and i joked about it one other time but he didn't warn me or do crap. He banned us after that day. I say again, he did not warn me. Its called a joke when i first did it and he can't take one. Le0n is making that up and i say again, he wanted me to rejoin stars once he gets his "initial mission completed" which is kicking me out. Thats why he is sucking up to him. The screenie of him saying this is on Oo forum. continueing, when i heard i was to be demoted, i wanted to know why. Then gizmo and i were fighting the demotion because all i did was protect a friend. Then, he changed it cause he was pissed. He made it a rigged tally by making it either i go or he goes and he's recruited a lot more then i have. I then was voted bye bye by everyone. After being banned, dark comforted me and so did gizmo and lyon while 3d and dark came in and starting spamming me and flamming me to get off the tag. All of us and shocko then decided we needed to get proof to get him kicked out. Well i had the screenies of the voting for me banned, but what really did it was when he banned mc and gizmo and lyon. I came on as psycho to confuse him and listened to what he had to say. He lost the voting and was to be kicked, but instead he deleted the topic and banned them. So then lyon reported this to minimoose i believe and thats how this part began.
Thats the true story of what has happened
He should be removed and fellas of mp, i want you to know this. Half of what ubcs said on that post was a lie. I called him an azn 2 times with fear and i joked about it one other time but he didn't warn me or do crap. He banned us after that day. I say again, he did not warn me. Its called a joke when i first did it and he can't take one. Le0n is making that up and i say again, he wanted me to rejoin stars once he gets his "initial mission completed" which is kicking me out. Thats why he is sucking up to him. The screenie of him saying this is on Oo forum. continueing, when i heard i was to be demoted, i wanted to know why. Then gizmo and i were fighting the demotion because all i did was protect a friend. Then, he changed it cause he was pissed. He made it a rigged tally by making it either i go or he goes and he's recruited a lot more then i have. I then was voted bye bye by everyone. After being banned, dark comforted me and so did gizmo and lyon while 3d and dark came in and starting spamming me and flamming me to get off the tag. All of us and shocko then decided we needed to get proof to get him kicked out. Well i had the screenies of the voting for me banned, but what really did it was when he banned mc and gizmo and lyon. I came on as psycho to confuse him and listened to what he had to say. He lost the voting and was to be kicked, but instead he deleted the topic and banned them. So then lyon reported this to minimoose i believe and thats how this part began.
Thats the true story of what has happened
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 22:04:16
UBCS has talked with me and we have forgiven each other.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-20 at 22:04:22
UBCS was a corrupt leader, Minigame is an inactive one
The best possible solution in my opinion is Mp)Marine, he has shown that he is loyal to the clan, been in the clan longer then yourself and is a very respectable guy
Giving UBCS modding rights to the forum is almost as bad as admin rights.
Choose Marine for a clan filled with equality, fairness and a non corrupt judgment.
The best possible solution in my opinion is Mp)Marine, he has shown that he is loyal to the clan, been in the clan longer then yourself and is a very respectable guy
Giving UBCS modding rights to the forum is almost as bad as admin rights.
Choose Marine for a clan filled with equality, fairness and a non corrupt judgment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-09-20 at 22:05:21
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DTBK can we change this so that they cant run political ads in here?
On the contrary, that's half the point of this topic: so people can know who they're voting for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-20 at 22:05:22
Not a good choice DTBK, youll be doing warn logs till tomorrow morning if this keeps up.
-Ex
-Ex
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2006-09-20 at 22:05:28
QUOTE(Shocko @ Sep 20 2006, 09:03 PM)
UBCS was a corrupt leader, Minigame is an inactive one
The best possible solution in my opinion is Mp)Marine, he has shown that he is loyal to the clan, been in the clan longer then yourself and is a very respectable guy
Giving UBCS modding rights to the forum is almost as bad as admin rights.
Choose Marine for a clan filled with equality, fairness and a non corrupt judgment.
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The best possible solution in my opinion is Mp)Marine, he has shown that he is loyal to the clan, been in the clan longer then yourself and is a very respectable guy
Giving UBCS modding rights to the forum is almost as bad as admin rights.
Choose Marine for a clan filled with equality, fairness and a non corrupt judgment.
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every1 needs to read this if you havn't already
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I find it amazing that you all want to disrespect and throw away my hard work and dedication to this clan. You think my acts were irrational and immature however let me explain something to you all. I have revived this clan it was on the edge of dying when i came back and made it popular and strong again. The majority of you who are in this clan today have been my own personal recruits, each one of you benefiting this clan. Issues with shocko came up, he never liked me and i never liked him, and his lack of respect for me led to a flame of clan mp) therefor he was no longer allowed in our channel and on our forums.
Mp)Marine didn't take the matter very well, he supported shocko and was good friends with shocko. But before i explain the affiliate you must understand that several weeks earlier as Marine was rejoining Mp) he swore revenge on minigame... I promissed him he would get a chance of being co-leader if i ever were to become leader again and he agreed. In return for his dedication not only would he get co-leader but he would get the chance to revenge his ever-going grudge against MinigameEast. Though he will probably never admit to it now, seeing how he has become the political favorite of the clan, he was brived to join and only seeks Mp)Minigame's complete demise.
Back to the story, shocko and Marine have been friends for some period of time to my understanding. This is an easy reason to see why there were conflicts where they were both against me on a personal note. However, when shocko began disrespecting me i got frustrated and as i said before exiled him, marine's attitude toward his friends punishment drove him to begin doing the same things to me. (via: disrespecting me, calling me names, and being quite rude after multiple warnings.) Anyways, we had a vote and i wanted him demoted and every1 else voted for a warning.... I let it slip because i thought well the majority of the clan forgives him i guess i can. On that same day withen 20 mins, he goes back to doing the same thing and i had enough.
It had now gotton to the point where he was either going to an amateur rank our getting out of the clan because i quite frankly couldn't handle it anymore. Then after more disrespect and support of marine's immature reactions i decided that maybe it was time i take my leave, they voted and decided that marine should leave instead of me. However, upon marine's exile more problems began to fluster...
Members began to get frustraded and agonized by the fact that i had removed a co-leader, which we voted to be removed, from the clan. His refusal to get off the tag proved a very unusual way of rebellion and Mp)DarkNight, a supporter, quit to join his rebel group. They claim that my behavior was un-just and un-fair. After seeing 2 members leave, peazel through in the towel himself for he was tired of the civil war issues within the clans heart.
What was i to do now? We had an issue on our hands that could affect the outcome of the clan drastically. Myself, darkmarine, moogle, and ryu discussed these matters and came to the conclusion that all who threatened our clan in any way, shape or form would no longer be allowed in our channel or our forums.
Now the banning begins.. We concluded that several marine supporters were becoming threats to us.. Unaware of what should be done we decided to continue to discuss the matter. Around this time minigame got on to try to hear all the sides of the story. Mp)excalibur, a former s.t.a.r.s member, confessed to a plan that was set to the demisse of Mp) that consisted of proof that marine had planned to destroy the clan, which minigame did see through bot logs. It became clear that though he was no longer in the clan he was becoming more and more of a threat.
Minigame began to queustion my councils leadership, and after another discussion he swore that he would take away our power, dada's myself moogle and darkmarinep's power that is. He was then considered a threat to our clan and was removed immediately from the east server. Lets face it he runs west not east, east is our problem and once again none of the council takes threats well.
With minigameeast off our neck we began debating who of the traitors, aka marine followers, should be banned. A 'watch' list was set in effect for members such as gizmo and edai, whom voted that i should leave the clan. Though they were not banned, we would watch them like hawks. And then this happends..
I get home from school and see the rebelious acts forming once again. What do i do? I contact DaDa we decide that all threats must be elimated. We said goodbye to gizmo and betrayed. And now you guys are trying to overthrow what my staff and i have worked so hard for.. Though you got DaDa to quit, moogle myself and darkmarine wont be so easily purswaded.
Mp)Marine didn't take the matter very well, he supported shocko and was good friends with shocko. But before i explain the affiliate you must understand that several weeks earlier as Marine was rejoining Mp) he swore revenge on minigame... I promissed him he would get a chance of being co-leader if i ever were to become leader again and he agreed. In return for his dedication not only would he get co-leader but he would get the chance to revenge his ever-going grudge against MinigameEast. Though he will probably never admit to it now, seeing how he has become the political favorite of the clan, he was brived to join and only seeks Mp)Minigame's complete demise.
Back to the story, shocko and Marine have been friends for some period of time to my understanding. This is an easy reason to see why there were conflicts where they were both against me on a personal note. However, when shocko began disrespecting me i got frustrated and as i said before exiled him, marine's attitude toward his friends punishment drove him to begin doing the same things to me. (via: disrespecting me, calling me names, and being quite rude after multiple warnings.) Anyways, we had a vote and i wanted him demoted and every1 else voted for a warning.... I let it slip because i thought well the majority of the clan forgives him i guess i can. On that same day withen 20 mins, he goes back to doing the same thing and i had enough.
It had now gotton to the point where he was either going to an amateur rank our getting out of the clan because i quite frankly couldn't handle it anymore. Then after more disrespect and support of marine's immature reactions i decided that maybe it was time i take my leave, they voted and decided that marine should leave instead of me. However, upon marine's exile more problems began to fluster...
Members began to get frustraded and agonized by the fact that i had removed a co-leader, which we voted to be removed, from the clan. His refusal to get off the tag proved a very unusual way of rebellion and Mp)DarkNight, a supporter, quit to join his rebel group. They claim that my behavior was un-just and un-fair. After seeing 2 members leave, peazel through in the towel himself for he was tired of the civil war issues within the clans heart.
What was i to do now? We had an issue on our hands that could affect the outcome of the clan drastically. Myself, darkmarine, moogle, and ryu discussed these matters and came to the conclusion that all who threatened our clan in any way, shape or form would no longer be allowed in our channel or our forums.
Now the banning begins.. We concluded that several marine supporters were becoming threats to us.. Unaware of what should be done we decided to continue to discuss the matter. Around this time minigame got on to try to hear all the sides of the story. Mp)excalibur, a former s.t.a.r.s member, confessed to a plan that was set to the demisse of Mp) that consisted of proof that marine had planned to destroy the clan, which minigame did see through bot logs. It became clear that though he was no longer in the clan he was becoming more and more of a threat.
Minigame began to queustion my councils leadership, and after another discussion he swore that he would take away our power, dada's myself moogle and darkmarinep's power that is. He was then considered a threat to our clan and was removed immediately from the east server. Lets face it he runs west not east, east is our problem and once again none of the council takes threats well.
With minigameeast off our neck we began debating who of the traitors, aka marine followers, should be banned. A 'watch' list was set in effect for members such as gizmo and edai, whom voted that i should leave the clan. Though they were not banned, we would watch them like hawks. And then this happends..
I get home from school and see the rebelious acts forming once again. What do i do? I contact DaDa we decide that all threats must be elimated. We said goodbye to gizmo and betrayed. And now you guys are trying to overthrow what my staff and i have worked so hard for.. Though you got DaDa to quit, moogle myself and darkmarine wont be so easily purswaded.
I'm sorry Mp), I'm sorry Marine, I'm sorry Shocko, And im sorry SEN.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-09-20 at 22:05:45
vote for me. i can give people equall rights and give most of every member what they need or want. since i was one leading Mp) the longest and still a little active. i know the members boosted with activity and new people come in, i want that to stay.
i know how to manage fights, but when people dont listen to me then this would happen.
i would choose leaders and co-leaders do to there behavior and how active they are. also i would be doing this to all servers (if possible)
everyone didnt really had a problem with me except activity but im still here and want to still lead the clan.
i know how to manage fights, but when people dont listen to me then this would happen.
i would choose leaders and co-leaders do to there behavior and how active they are. also i would be doing this to all servers (if possible)
everyone didnt really had a problem with me except activity but im still here and want to still lead the clan.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EdAi on 2006-09-20 at 22:06:13
seriously mc, shut up about being admin, its making me mad, we haven't even gotten that far yet, plus, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COUNCIL!!
not one supreme leader
not one supreme leader
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-20 at 22:06:58
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Sep 20 2006, 09:05 PM)
vote for me. i can give people equall rights and give most of every member what they need or want. since i was one leading Mp) the longest and still a little active. i know the members boosted with activity and new people come in, i want that to stay.
i know how to manage fights, but when people dont listen to me then this would happen.
i would choose leaders and co-leaders do to there behavior and how active they are. also i would be doing this to all servers (if possible)
everyone didnt really had a problem with me except activity but im still here and want to still lead the clan.
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i know how to manage fights, but when people dont listen to me then this would happen.
i would choose leaders and co-leaders do to there behavior and how active they are. also i would be doing this to all servers (if possible)
everyone didnt really had a problem with me except activity but im still here and want to still lead the clan.
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And youll do all of this while being totally inactive? Man minigame, you have to teach me how to do that!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-09-20 at 22:07:04
Yah I remeber that Mp)Marine Me & U were just joking around with him
and he got extremely mad... no warning what so ever and banned me & marine there is a thread in here somewhere about it.. i could of saved the bot convo but i dont keep chat logs.
and he got extremely mad... no warning what so ever and banned me & marine there is a thread in here somewhere about it.. i could of saved the bot convo but i dont keep chat logs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-20 at 22:07:17
Together we stand, divided we fall.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EdAi on 2006-09-20 at 22:08:29
omg... ubcs, we know u've worked hard, but c'mon, what'll happen the next time you "have a bad day"??
hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-20 at 22:09:31
QUOTE(Etard @ Sep 20 2006, 07:06 PM)
Yah I remeber that Mp)Marine Me & U were just joking around with him
and he got extremely mad... no warning what so ever and banned me & marine there is a thread in here somewhere about it.. i could of saved the bot convo but i dont keep chat logs.
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and he got extremely mad... no warning what so ever and banned me & marine there is a thread in here somewhere about it.. i could of saved the bot convo but i dont keep chat logs.
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So are you going to change your vote? Thats the actual story not what he posting
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2006-09-20 at 22:09:56
QUOTE(EdAi @ Sep 20 2006, 09:08 PM)
omg... ubcs, we know u've worked hard, but c'mon, what'll happen the next time you "have a bad day"??
hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
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hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
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EdAi i find it funny when you talk to me on bnet you act like u hate every1 who's against me and then you go with what they say.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-09-20 at 22:10:29
QUOTE(EdAi @ Sep 20 2006, 09:08 PM)
omg... ubcs, we know u've worked hard, but c'mon, what'll happen the next time you "have a bad day"??
hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
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hmm?
also 3d, part of the reason why we overthrew u is that u were the only one with any power, u didn't even give co-leaders power...
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I personally dont think there was anyone he could trust with you guys trying to over throw him left and right. Maybe Moogle, or DM, but there hasnt exactly been time to get crap straight, and i would know since ive been online for the whole thing. I personally think im the best informed here. Call me crazy. But when every fight, every decision, every vote, took place i was online. And i cant say the same for anyone else.
-Ex
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2006-09-20 at 22:12:08
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Le0n @ Sep 20 2006, 09:10 PM)
I personally dont think there was anyone he could trust with you guys trying to over throw him left and right. Maybe Moogle, or DM, but there hasnt exactly been time to get crap straight, and i would know since ive been online for the whole thing. I personally think im the best informed here. Call me crazy. But when every fight, every decision, every vote, took place i was online. And i cant say the same for anyone else.
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DM and MOOGLE would agree with me if they were online right now.. just ftw.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-09-20 at 22:12:29
QUOTE(Mp)Marine @ Sep 20 2006, 07:09 PM)
So are you going to change your vote? Thats the actual story not what he posting
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I have no idea, I would but what would I get from changing my vote.. if i change my vote will clan Mp) Fall apart from my side UBCS is running it right now and if he leaves alot of stuff is going to change and lose crap and alot of members.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EdAi on 2006-09-20 at 22:13:19
ubcs, i know yesterday i was with u, but i just couldn't let u keep banning people, and if u stay leader, and u give no one else power, me and the others are leaving
i want your word that not only will u give others power, but that u'll use a council system::
Councelors:
Mp)3D (Councelor + Sen Representative)
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Other members
i want your word that not only will u give others power, but that u'll use a council system::
Councelors:
Mp)3D (Councelor + Sen Representative)
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Mp)*name*
Other members
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-20 at 22:14:08
Maybe some restraints on 3D posting in here, seeing as he is the leader on trial and the reason that admins had to be brought in here and his presence has indeed caused conflicts already.
just a thougt?
just a thougt?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2006-09-20 at 22:14:09
QUOTE(Etard @ Sep 20 2006, 09:12 PM)
I have no idea, I would but what would I get from changing my vote.. if i change my vote will clan Mp) Fall apart from my side UBCS is running it right now and if he leaves alot of stuff is going to change and lose crap and alot of members.
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Yes, that may be true. FeaR, DM, Peazel, Moogle, and i have a very close bond that we all go to the same clan together.. Occasionally EdAi follows to
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-20 at 22:15:14
Fear we were going to create a republic. The senate would lead instead of one leader (empire)
We were going to have 4-6 leaders be the senate who are the leaders and agree on things. If you want to have one man's decission, go ahead. But i feel a republic is much more fair and would bring peace to this clan.
We were going to have 4-6 leaders be the senate who are the leaders and agree on things. If you want to have one man's decission, go ahead. But i feel a republic is much more fair and would bring peace to this clan.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-09-20 at 22:16:35
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Le0n @ Sep 20 2006, 09:06 PM)
And youll do all of this while being totally inactive? Man minigame, you have to teach me how to do that!
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well usually fights break in here.... its not like an instant manager.
plus everytime i get off from work... i come here late at night checking bot logs and etc.