Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-22 at 23:16:39
As you all may know, 3D has been kicked out for his tyranny as emperor. Because of this, we had little power to stop him. To learn from past mistakes, Lyon and i have thought of an idea that mini is planning on using for our new state of ability. We will be forming a Republic! There will be 4 leaders (2 for west/east amd one drifter one aka head) and they are part of the senate or council. They must all agree on things if something is going to be done. EVERYONE now has power and the leaders just watch over the members. We will be democratic by voting for things and republic for choosing on things to do for the clan. Our plan is now being initiated and we hope that you like what we are doing with the clan.
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Mini, do you have cp yet so you can give us moderation?
Addon: Yes i know i mispelled end
Mini, do you have cp yet so you can give us moderation?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-09-23 at 03:19:47
So does that mean we can vote for the leaders? It seems like they've been chosen already despite us working democratically.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-09-23 at 03:25:19
marine is one of the leaders... were still looking for a 2nd and 2 co-leaders
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 08:03:39
Soooo many problems arise when you try to form a council like this. Lets pretend the council is say; Mp)Marine, Mp)MiniGameEast, Mp)Lyon, Mp)Devlin the following problem will definately arise in a different form.
Mp)MiniGameEast: I think we should expand to europe.
Mp)Marine: I think we should recruit more people on east and west first.
Mp)Lyon: Shocko stop eating that worm
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Mp)Devlin:
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Mp)MiniGameEast: We'll i don't care what you say marine i wan't Europe aswell.
Mp)Marine: This is BS your a corrupt leader, im going to overthrow you.
Mp)Lyon: *licks shocko's cheek*
Mp)Devlin:
Basically the story is, one of you will eventually see that another leader is unjust, in the way he/she decides to do what he/she wants, without confronting you, or just ignores what you say.
Then you do the democratic vote you say? ok lets see the flaws in that.
Poll: Should we ban Mp)MiniGameEast for being a corrupt leader?
[Yes] - 75%
[No] - 25%
Well seeing as the majority says yes, you would want to take him out of his position right, well thats not going to be easy because Mp)MiniGameEast has Ops and the Leader CP so he can just ban you and think nothing of it.
How about another poll scenario?
Poll: Should we move to Europe?
[Yes] - 60%
[No] - 40%
Now since the statistic says; Yes is the majority so your going to go with that, even if 40% of your clan says No its a bad idea, well then your going to have 40% of your clan moaning that either you don't listen to them or that Moving to Europe killed the clan.
In conclusion its not going to work in my opinion, find something else, be truthful to your members, your just forming a republic to make them feel like they have a say when really its just the council who call the shots.
Mp)MiniGameEast: I think we should expand to europe.
Mp)Marine: I think we should recruit more people on east and west first.
Mp)Lyon: Shocko stop eating that worm
.Mp)Devlin:
.Mp)MiniGameEast: We'll i don't care what you say marine i wan't Europe aswell.
Mp)Marine: This is BS your a corrupt leader, im going to overthrow you.
Mp)Lyon: *licks shocko's cheek*
Mp)Devlin:
Basically the story is, one of you will eventually see that another leader is unjust, in the way he/she decides to do what he/she wants, without confronting you, or just ignores what you say.
Then you do the democratic vote you say? ok lets see the flaws in that.
Poll: Should we ban Mp)MiniGameEast for being a corrupt leader?
[Yes] - 75%
[No] - 25%
Well seeing as the majority says yes, you would want to take him out of his position right, well thats not going to be easy because Mp)MiniGameEast has Ops and the Leader CP so he can just ban you and think nothing of it.
How about another poll scenario?
Poll: Should we move to Europe?
[Yes] - 60%
[No] - 40%
Now since the statistic says; Yes is the majority so your going to go with that, even if 40% of your clan says No its a bad idea, well then your going to have 40% of your clan moaning that either you don't listen to them or that Moving to Europe killed the clan.
In conclusion its not going to work in my opinion, find something else, be truthful to your members, your just forming a republic to make them feel like they have a say when really its just the council who call the shots.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 10:39:16
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Sep 23 2006, 03:24 AM)
marine is one of the leaders... were still looking for a 2nd and 2 co-leaders
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If help is needed I can be a leader or co-leader, i dont mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 11:24:38
QUOTE(7-7 @ Sep 23 2006, 06:38 AM)
If help is needed I can be a leader or co-leader, i dont mind.
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Im sure you wouldn't, *cough* power hungry members *cough*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Night on 2006-09-23 at 11:46:41
Very funny scenario shocko, but I doubt that Mini will be considered corrupt for trying to get to Europe. If he is willing to go there himself and recruit new members, let him. As long as it doesn't cause some members to "split" the clan again by half of them going to europe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-09-23 at 12:57:19
I Do believe we should stay out of Europe, and our Senate or Council should go like this:
High Counselor: Mp)Minigameeast
USEast Counselors: Mp)Lyon, Mp)Marine
USWest Counselors: ???? ????
We gotta pick for the USWest, ahahha
High Counselor: Mp)Minigameeast
USEast Counselors: Mp)Lyon, Mp)Marine
USWest Counselors: ???? ????
We gotta pick for the USWest, ahahha
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 13:05:19
QUOTE(Shocko @ Sep 23 2006, 11:24 AM)
Im sure you wouldn't, *cough* power hungry members *cough*
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You are saying that I am power hungry. If I were too be power hungry don't you think I would have been a little late concidering I could have ran for leader and administration of the forum. It would be dumb for me to ask now. I also said if help is needed, meaning that I dont mind if I dont. I would rather be co-leader than leader anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-09-23 at 13:10:10
QUOTE(Shocko @ Sep 23 2006, 11:24 AM)
Im sure you wouldn't, *cough* power hungry members *cough*
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Shocko we sided temporarily, but if you start flaming members i assure you you will be banned.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 13:29:58
QUOTE(Mp)Lyon @ Sep 23 2006, 09:09 AM)
Shocko we sided temporarily, but if you start flaming members i assure you you will be banned.
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Your a republic, the council has to agree on it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 13:51:13
Im up for banning you, even after all the help I gave you, you still prove to be an *** 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-23 at 16:31:43
Well i wanted to go to europe actually at first, so idk about that. Thats not something to call him corrupt over though. If he bans a ton of people and doesn't share power (3D) then thats corrupt.
Lyon, we aren't counsellors
We are senators and mini is high chancellor.
Lyon, we aren't counsellors
We are senators and mini is high chancellor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 16:35:46
I think we should at least wait a little longer before we go too Europe, maybe get some more stability before broadening the clans spectrum if you know what I mean.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-23 at 17:37:34
Also shocko, we are taking everyone's vote, not just senators and such. Thats why for ranks its up to all members to post what they think.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 17:51:41
tst tst marine, getting so wrapped up in your new leadership. Maybe i have some quotes of my own to pop out for the clan?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-23 at 17:55:00
QUOTE(Shocko @ Sep 23 2006, 02:51 PM)
tst tst marine, getting so wrapped up in your new leadership. Maybe i have some quotes of my own to pop out for the clan?
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What you mean? Confused
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 17:58:36
Why don't you go on SC im sure we can talk there without you getting in trouble.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 18:49:25
Shocko, its sad that someone like you needs to do these things to make yourself happy. I am ashamed that a leader of a SC clan would be so immature.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-09-23 at 19:33:39
lol, im commenting on your failure to realise that it will soon go wrong, the fact that Mp)Marine is acting like a goodie goodie when really he is not just makes me feel the need to tell you the truth, but yes you're right, it is so much funner to do it this way. And i am a depressed person in life, sure im an emo i don't care, what you gonna do about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-09-23 at 21:20:47
Well for starters, someone that is a depressed person can still write, right? That is the only thing I learned from that last post of yours. The answer is no!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-09-23 at 22:56:01
QUOTE(Shocko @ Sep 23 2006, 04:33 PM)
lol, im commenting on your failure to realise that it will soon go wrong, the fact that Mp)Marine is acting like a goodie goodie when really he is not just makes me feel the need to tell you the truth, but yes you're right, it is so much funner to do it this way. And i am a depressed person in life, sure im an emo i don't care, what you gonna do about it?
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When i have power, i tend to use it for the greater good shocko...I am not a goodie good but i am to my parents and teachers. But anyway, i finally have a high rank in a clan besides the one i had in europe. I want to make this a good vote for the members and mini. Its fine to tell us bad things that we are doing, but its another thing to criticize a member thats besuchen freunde. I do not need criticize in my first moments of having co-leadership of a clan (leader of east but mini higher on the totem pole).