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Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-09-25 at 00:39:40
Clinton puts the hurt on Chris Wallace.

I have to say Clinton was one cool cucumber in that interview; while Wallace is trying to derail him from putting the hurt on him and Fox entirely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-09-25 at 05:39:25
I've always admired Clinton, despite the Lewinsky scandal or the impeachment. He's just too cool in my book.

As far as the politics go, I was bored on day a few years ago and I read up o all the information about Clinton and Bin Laden. It really is ironic how he did say we should watch for Bin Laden and now he is criticized for not doing enough.

I'm just glad he opened a can of woop ass on Fox.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-09-25 at 15:19:59
Clinton got owned in that interview. and he started yelling at his assistants after the interview, rofl.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-09-27 at 01:09:29
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I've always admired Clinton, despite the Lewinsky scandal or the impeachment.
Thats why he rocks.
(Well and he saved our economy.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-09-27 at 18:14:33
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Clinton got owned in that interview. and he started yelling at his assistants after the interview, rofl.

Don't you mean wallace got owned?

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Thats why he rocks.
(Well and he saved our economy.)
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It was mainly Bill Gates and the rise of Microsoft that boosted our economy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-09-28 at 04:13:59
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Do you actually know anything about economics? One company cannot boost the economy of a nation. It has to do with a lack of inflation and an increase in consumption. Though Microsoft's release of Windows boosted the computer market, it was not the sole proprietor in the economic well-being of America.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-09-28 at 15:05:18
Clinton didn't get owned in that Mp)Lyon... my journalism teacher said that the interviewer was supposed to spend half of the 15 minute interview talking about Clinton's charity. The other half the interviewer could talk about w/e he wanted. Apparently he barely talked about Clinton's fundraiser and went right into the talk about Osama Bin Laden which broke the agreement and made Clinton really mad. The interview went on for 25 minutes. He even said to the interviewer that he is just following Murdock's agenda (the owner of Fox networks). For all of you that don't know, Murdock makes his reporters make one side of the story seem greater and is a die hard republican. There's a ton more to explain but I don't feel like explaining it all. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-09-28 at 16:04:20
QUOTE(DevliN @ Sep 28 2006, 03:13 AM)
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Do you actually know anything about economics? One company cannot boost the economy of a nation. It has to do with a lack of inflation and an increase in consumption. Though Microsoft's release of Windows boosted the computer market, it was not the sole proprietor in the economic well-being of America.
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Mainly =/= only

ADDITION:
And it wasn't just that company alone. In the 1990's the computer industry was booming. People started buying computers and PCs like crazy; this was when the computer age began. On the Job pages, there were tons and tons of computer-related jobs available for everyone, such as Dell, IBM, Motorola, etc; it was the hottest field of that time.

Even my mom, back in 1997, just spent a year or so in community college and soon enough got a state job as a computer programmer. Back then, anyone could get a computer related job. You get pretty good pay from these jobs. And as your income increases, so does your inclination to consume more products, which thus pumps more money into the circular flow of our Economy. Yes, I took AP Economics so I know this stuff fairly well.

But compare then to now. Around 2000 almost everyone had computers at home, and so the consumption of Computer products began to slow down. Now look what's happening: Since consumption decreases, what are happening to the inventories? They're increasing. Now because you're producing more products than you are selling them, what do you do? Hire or Fire? The latter. And most of those job cuts/layoffs back in the start of 2000 were because of this; companies like Dell and IBM were producing too much stuff and so they had too many workers. Once people start losing their jobs, they start consuming less. And if you consume less, it hurts the producers of whatever you previously consumed, and then the whole firing thing repeats again. Things like this hurt our economy.

Right now, there are hundreds and hundreds of people out there who are more qualified than my mom in Computer Programming who would die to have a job like hers. A person of the same skill level as my mom could never in their lives get a computer programming job so easily today. But my mom was lucky since she got her job back when the economy was at the peak of it's cyclical nature.



I'm not saying Bill Clinton didn't help any at all with our economy or was a bad president , but that it was mainly the rise of the computer age at that time which greatly boosted our economy. Yes he's done great things as shown here. But had there been no Computer age stuff back in the 1990s, the economy would definately not have been as great as it was.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-09-28 at 18:13:54
Ok our economy as a whole doesn't mean much of anything. Its rather unbalanced do to wealthy few who end up owning most of the money, compared to the many who get almost nothing in comparison. When I say he saved our economy, I mean he reduced the number of people below the poverty line (Those who earned 19,000 some and below.) He didn't simply reduce it slightly either, he nearly halved it. He also signed the NAFTA agreement (although NAFTA was created under the first bush administration. Clinton seems to get some credit.) Which made american goods more readily sold in mexico and canada, and reopened us tradeways with china.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-28 at 20:20:14
Clinton didn't increase our national debt. In fact, he made it smaller. On the other hand, Bush voted for huge spending increases which have increased our debt by a rather substantial amount for no good reason. Of course the advent of mainstream computers with the technology boom was part of the good economy, but there were many factors that made it an efficient, desirable model of the world at the time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-10-02 at 16:58:27
QUOTE(DevliN @ Sep 25 2006, 04:39 AM)
I've always admired Clinton, despite the Lewinsky scandal or the impeachment. He's just too cool in my book.
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Lol yeah clinton was pretty cool tongue.gif

QUOTE(Felagund @ Sep 28 2006, 07:19 PM)
Clinton didn't increase our national debt. In fact, he made it smaller. On the other hand, Bush voted for huge spending increases which have increased our debt by a rather substantial amount for no good reason. Of course the advent of mainstream computers with the technology boom was part of the good economy, but there were many factors that made it an efficient, desirable model of the world at the time.
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Yeah it doesnt matter what clinton did to the debt its back up again
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