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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-05 at 12:04:07
I know there are many topics that have been posted about the store but I was just wondering if we could add anything to it. The only things that are really worth buying are the Highlights though Fx users cannot see them. I was thinking we could add things that poeple could buy like.

Lower Warn level - lowers warn level 20%
More Pm space - Gives 20 - 50 more Pms
More Attatchment Space - 5 more Mb


any other ideas?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-10-05 at 12:07:01
QUOTE(Mp)7-7 @ Oct 5 2006, 07:03 PM)
I know there are many topics that have been posted about the store but I was just wondering if we could add anything to it.  The only things that are really worth buying are the Highlights though Fx users cannot see them.  I was thinking we could add things that poeple could buy like.

Lower Warn level - lowers warn level 20%
More Pm space - Gives 20 - 50 more Pms
More Attatchment Space - 5 more Mb
any other ideas?
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1 - So the rich can evade bans but poor can't? sly.gif

2 - Yea, maybe a 10 PM for 500 minerals could work for admins.

3 - 5Mb lol? Maybe admins would let you have 100Kb extra for minerals, but not 5MB. laugh.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-05 at 12:10:14
Well idk, its just an idea, but I was thinking that the money needed to buy these would be a lot. Like 1000 to 2000. and like 5000 for lowering your warn level. SO even the rich could only do it once or twice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-10-05 at 12:13:27
Warns should not be lowered for having huge amount of minerals.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-05 at 12:17:15
Then maybe some other type of buyable product, I was just giving ideas. Does anyone have any ideas that would make the store more usable. In the store the only other thing you can buy like these are seeing someones warn level.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-10-05 at 13:07:06
How about [expensive] items that:

• temporarily allows small increases in signature size?
• removes the Edited By sig when you edit your post?
• increases participation?
• temporarily hides your current minerals from others?
• slightly increases the odds of winning the next 50/50 raffle, but at the cost of tripling the cost of a raffle ticket?
• slightly increases the odds of gaining higher amounts of minerals from Random Money?
• doubles the amount of minerals gained from the next magic box opened, but at the cost of doubling the cost of a magic box?
• allows kiwis to grow and give out minerals based on how frequent and how many of this item you use on your kiwis?
• increases the value of your next vote in a poll?
• temporarily prevents users of a certain non-staff group from posting on a topic?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-10-05 at 13:17:24
Oh dear. This could be problematic. The admins have reasons for limiting space in sigs and attachments. If sigs get too big, then the forum pages can't show as much. And the odds of winning the raffle...you can't mess with the laws of probability. I vote a very strong NO to the poll suggestion--the rich would get more votes than everyone else (although it would be more like real life. tongue.gif) Basically, I think the store is fine, because if it actually does something useful then the admins will have a harder time administrating.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-05 at 13:33:15
QUOTE(GoldenKnight @ Oct 5 2006, 01:06 PM)
How about [expensive] items that:

• temporarily allows small increases in signature size?
• removes the Edited By sig when you edit your post?
• increases participation?
• temporarily hides your current minerals from others?
• slightly increases the odds of winning the next 50/50 raffle, but at the cost of tripling the cost of a raffle ticket?
• slightly increases the odds of gaining higher amounts of minerals from Random Money?
• doubles the amount of minerals gained from the next magic box opened, but at the cost of doubling the cost of a magic box?
• allows kiwis to grow and give out minerals based on how frequent and how many of this item you use on your kiwis?
• increases the value of your next vote in a poll?
• temporarily prevents users of a certain non-staff group from posting on a topic?

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Someone with some good ideas! Yes, is anyone else thinking about this? I think we should add some of these that the admins say is okay. I like these!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-10-06 at 11:11:58
These ideas are lame as they all make users with minerals better than others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-10-06 at 11:19:21
QUOTE(Mp)7-7 @ Oct 5 2006, 11:03 AM)
I know there are many topics that have been posted about the store but I was just wondering if we could add anything to it.  The only things that are really worth buying are the Highlights though Fx users cannot see them.  I was thinking we could add things that poeple could buy like.

Lower Warn level - lowers warn level 20%
More Pm space - Gives 20 - 50 more Pms
More Attatchment Space - 5 more Mb
any other ideas?
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1) No way. Spammers could have a never ending clean warnlog. Like DEAD says, this favors the rich, and the rich getting away with everything pisses us off enough in real life.

2) I like this idea. My regularness didn't provide me with enough PM space. tongue.gif

3) Same as above.

QUOTE(GoldenKnight @ Oct 5 2006, 12:06 PM)
How about [expensive] items that:

1 temporarily allows small increases in signature size?
2 removes the Edited By sig when you edit your post?
3 increases participation?
4 temporarily hides your current minerals from others?
5 slightly increases the odds of winning the next 50/50 raffle, but at the cost of tripling the cost of a raffle ticket?
6 slightly increases the odds of gaining higher amounts of minerals from Random Money?
7 doubles the amount of minerals gained from the next magic box opened, but at the cost of doubling the cost of a magic box?
8 allows kiwis to grow and give out minerals based on how frequent and how many of this item you use on your kiwis?
9 increases the value of your next vote in a poll?
10 temporarily prevents users of a certain non-staff group from posting on a topic?

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1) This one sounds iffy. If it became a fad to get big signatures, then that would mean a lot more scrolling for everyone and a lot more lag for people with slower comps.

2) I don't see why. It might give some people the impression you say everything you wanna say perfectly the first time around. It's not like the "edited lalala" gives you extra minerals.

3) Again, this favors the rich. It might also screw up whatever system they have for calculating it in the first place.

4) This would allow you to hide the fewer minerals you have for buying the thing in the first place. It seems like a waste of time to code and figure out.

5) I like this one. Although it does favor the rich, once again. Maybe you can only buy it once a week or something...

6) Ditto.

7) Tritto (omg new word).

8) Another "rich get richer" sounding idea. I'd rather keep the current mineral gathering methods of posting and gambling.

9) Definitely not for site-important opinion polls. The side with the richer members would win every time because of this. This might only be useful in forum games, but like no. 4, it just seems like a waste of time to code.

10) This has the potential to cause so many fights. I disagree.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-10-06 at 13:04:54
QUOTE(DEAD @ Oct 6 2006, 11:11 AM)
These ideas are lame as they all make users with minerals better than others.

Well then, what's the current system? Post a lot and you get stuff. I'd say minerals are somewhat more accurate and provide gradual progression rather than big chunks at 300 and 1337 posts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-06 at 13:11:05
SO does this mean that we will have some more choices in the store later on, maybe v4.1 but we should deffinately have some in the v5 forums!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2006-10-06 at 14:13:46
My current plan is to do away with regular and elite status... and instead be able to buy things like a personalized colored name... more pm space... more attachment space... etc. The way it figures out, quite logically, if you post more, you are a more active user on SEN... and posting more = more minerals. Minerals can transfer into things you need most (attachment space). Instead of some new user coming around and uploading 10 one megabyte movies and disappearing... not that anyone has actually done that before (hopefully), but you get the point. Space is a continous issue, and if there is some type of space allotment to members, the more serious ones should get more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-10-06 at 15:44:23
If you do that make sure not to keep like the color of peoples names white tongue.gif

Yes, 7-7, all the things that you suggested would is like just becoming a regular using minerals. Most of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-06 at 16:12:40
I <3 the new v5 ideas. Can't wait. Shame all my perdy minerals will be gone, though.
I like some of the ideas posted above, but making your vote in a poll count more is one of the worst ideas on this page -.-.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-06 at 16:34:01
QUOTE(DoomStrike @ Oct 6 2006, 03:44 PM)
Yes, 7-7, all the things that you suggested would is like just becoming a regular using minerals. Most of it.
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What were you trying to say here? How could you become a regular with minerals?

I think we should add some of the ideas here to the store on v4!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xmrxsiegecopx on 2006-10-06 at 16:37:35
He meant that your idea would mean members could have the benefits of a regular with minerals by buying more attachment space, etc.

QUOTE(Centreri @ Oct 6 2006, 01:12 PM)
I like some of the ideas posted above, but making your vote in a poll count more is one of the worst ideas on this page -.-.
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The last few ideas were thought up right on the spot. My serious ones were the first 4, while the next 4 was to add reason for having the games and store.

How about a single-use "Discount Card" that made items cheaper for the store for a day on "Sale Day" that is held on a random day once a week? Cards not used when Sale Day ends will automatically expire, while attempting to use it on the wrong day will instead make items cost a lot more the rest of the week.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-10-06 at 18:55:18
Coloured names for v4... Also, Dood/DEAD, you can fine people when warning so the infinite clean slate argument doesn't really work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-10-06 at 18:55:29
QUOTE(IsolatedPurity @ Oct 6 2006, 02:13 PM)
My current plan is to do away with regular and elite status... and instead be able to buy things like a personalized colored name... more pm space... more attachment space... etc.  The way it figures out, quite logically, if you post more, you are a more active user on SEN... and posting more = more minerals.  Minerals can transfer into things you need most (attachment space).  Instead of some new user coming around and uploading 10 one megabyte movies and disappearing... not that anyone has actually done that before (hopefully), but you get the point.  Space is a continous issue, and if there is some type of space allotment to members, the more serious ones should get more.
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I like the regular/elite system. It helps tell the difference between who the newer members are, etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-10-06 at 18:59:46
agreed, minerals show very little about time here. since they can be spent, whereas posts can't. is karma supposed to be like a replacement though?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-06 at 19:01:53
Yes, I think we should keep them, or maybe change a little bit, maybe change them to Members: 0 - 99 posts. Regulars 100 - 1999 posts. Elites 2000+
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-10-06 at 20:47:51
QUOTE(Syphon(MM) @ Oct 6 2006, 05:54 PM)
Coloured names for v4... Also, Dood/DEAD, you can fine people when warning so the infinite clean slate argument doesn't really work.
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Oh yea. That would be cool to warn someone, and then watch as they immediately buy a warn reduction, and then take ALL of their minerals. interested.gif

Shoot, in that case go ahead and code it just so I can do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-06 at 22:15:13
Ya, warn them and then set their minerals to 1 less then they need to buy a warn reduction. That would be hilarious, lol. But I think we should be a bit more matue about it then that!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-10-06 at 22:29:07
QUOTE(Mp)7-7 @ Oct 6 2006, 09:14 PM)
But I think we should be a bit more matue about it then that!
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WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-10-06 at 23:23:31
QUOTE(Mp)7-7 @ Oct 5 2006, 09:03 AM)
I know there are many topics that have been posted about the store but I was just wondering if we could add anything to it.  The only things that are really worth buying are the Highlights though Fx users cannot see them.  I was thinking we could add things that poeple could buy like.

Lower Warn level - lowers warn level 20%
More Pm space - Gives 20 - 50 more Pms
More Attatchment Space - 5 more Mb
any other ideas?
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1. Over my dead body.
2. This might be a feasible idea; 10 PMs for 500 minerals or so.
3. Perhaps, but not that much more.

QUOTE(GoldenKnight @ Oct 5 2006, 10:06 AM)
How about [expensive] items that:

• temporarily allows small increases in signature size?
• removes the Edited By sig when you edit your post?
• increases participation?
• temporarily hides your current minerals from others?
• slightly increases the odds of winning the next 50/50 raffle, but at the cost of tripling the cost of a raffle ticket?
• slightly increases the odds of gaining higher amounts of minerals from Random Money?
• doubles the amount of minerals gained from the next magic box opened, but at the cost of doubling the cost of a magic box?
• allows kiwis to grow and give out minerals based on how frequent and how many of this item you use on your kiwis?
• increases the value of your next vote in a poll?
• temporarily prevents users of a certain non-staff group from posting on a topic?

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1. No, this is there for a good reason that minerals don't change.
2. See 1
3. Pointless
4. Funny, maybe just for kicks happy.gif. I like it.
5. Good idea.
6. Good idea.
7. Good idea.
8. Hmm, interesting. Maybe should be tweaked a bit.
9. See 1
10. Not useful and not funny enough.


QUOTE(IsolatedPurity @ Oct 6 2006, 11:13 AM)
My current plan is to do away with regular and elite status...
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When will you wake up and realize that almost nobody else supports this? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Syphon(MM) @ Oct 6 2006, 03:54 PM)
Coloured names for v4... Also, Dood/DEAD, you can fine people when warning so the infinite clean slate argument doesn't really work.
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That's what the glows are for. No, no changing of names on memberlist; it defeats the purpose of the colors in the first place.

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