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When it comes to this religious talks over the serious discussions, I rather think always gets off hand with a religious person and a extream anti-religious person flaming at each other. "Does god exist?" Thats not even a discussions questions. A proper question would be "This house believes that god exists." A value debate. Unproveable. This topic isn't about god, but whether religious talks really belong into the serious discussions.

But I ask you a topic to debate on...
"This house believes that religious talks do not belong to the serious discussion forums in SEN."
First, we're not professional debaters. Not all of us are. We haven't researched any of religious contexts or what the atheists have to say about religious that are rather rational or analyzed of what their thoughts on religion are.
Even with the alignment with politics, theres always a dispute whether god exists or god doesn't exist. People flame at each other for these reasons. With all this happening, what is the resolution for religious talks. Form a new forum with more specific rules and including religious contexts with analyzed results as stickies? Or, ban all religious talks?

I will put a specific rule on this. Read the bolded topic sentence and when you post a reply, state your side if you are Affirmitive or Negative.

I here by order the house to begin the discussion.

I agree. Religious debates, as well as some other ones, need to go into a more serious forum instead of just serious discussion. There should be a new forum that makes serious discussion seem like lite discussion, where all posts must be in a professional format.

Also, if the mods don't want to have to make and monitor another forum, then they can just enforce stricter rules on this one then.

I'm not saying get rid of religious debates in serious discussion, I'm saying either. Make more rules here. OR make a new forum where stricter rules apply.

Religion forms some of the very basis on which our culture and lives are based and many politicians so I agree any discussion about religion should be a serious one.

Of course it belongs there. If you are offended by what's being said in it or by its mere existence, just ignore it.

Ah. As I see it, you people lack reading entire things. Thats what leads to misunderstanding and flaming in discussions. If it does belong there, why does it? I'am not offended by its contents or offended by its existance. I am offended at how people go out of hands at times with religious talks.

Affirmitive.
The reason I will suggest putting a new forum for religious talks is...
- More professionality: Allow religious contexts and beliefs in a translated manner as contexts. Allow ideas of atheism and what anti-religious people have to say about it.
- Religious seriousness and rationality: This might help our members stay on focus to the topic.

In my experience, religious talks always end up like this:

"I know I'm right, because God told me so in the Bible."

"I know I'm right, because God is mean and couldn't exist."

Pretty much every religious argument I've seen ends up as a stalemate and does not end up getting anywhere. If it does go anywhere, both sides merely resort to name-calling, which doesn't get anything productive done. As a result, I do not think it belongs in serious discussion.

Those aren't allowed?

in my oppinion, the topics that are really serious would be the universe, war, news, criminal acts, elections and etc. but for religion... there barly even news about it. its just people just argueing the same debates that other people have already discused... we can probably find topics in here that have been talked about more than once.

You obviously haven't seen a SEN religious debate yet.

Religion is a serious debate. If people start flaming, they get punished. Just because a topic makes the debaters more likely to flame does not mean a separate forum is needed. Follow the rules, no problem. Don't follow the rules, bye bye.

Religious debates arent just old news a few weeks ago a person killed a omish woman and I think his reason was their religion.

The man killed the Amish girls at their schoolhouse because he had sexual desires for them and was pretty messed up in the head. From what I heard, religion was not really involved at all (other than the fact that the lack of technology in the Amish school allowed him more time to do whatever he wanted to).

Edit: I'm not saying that religion necessarily needs a new forum, I'm saying that I think religious discussions belong in Lite Discussion as opposed to Serious Discussion.

They teach how to combat racism in school, but they don't teach us in school how to combat prejudice concerning varying religious beliefs.

And thats exactly what wasnt happening from the last few years.

People get warned, and if you don't like something, there's a nice little IPB feature called 'report button'.

We know. If people were only so great at reporting things.

I was pointing at you when I said that.

in my school... you cant debate anything on religion or else your in trouble and sent to saturday school or in school suspension. thats how serious it is... might as well not talk about it >.>

I seriously hope that isn't a public school.

If it is, kill DoE! They damned Department of Education banned cell phones and other electronics because they can be used as weapons... and yet pencils with .5mm lead and pens are allowed in school. In fact, I'm allowed to cross the street .

I hate the ban on discussion of specific and especially intellectual topics. And Religion is an intellectual topic.

oh yes. pencils as weapons. we're even allowed mechanical pens which have sharp needle like stuff.

Oh and, i wasn't talking about a ban on discussion on religion. It was about whether it really belonged in the serious discussions lot. I certainly dont think so.

What does that mean in relevancy to my last post?

I said


You start whining about people not using it. I told you that as you're the whiner about people not using it, you should report. If they don't report, it doesn't bother them. It bothers you, so you should report.