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Staredit Network -> Clan Oo -> I won't be on sen anymore
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-11-14 at 22:52:12
For the past 3 months, i've been warned by dtbk or whatever and minimoose for the dumbest of reasons. Now i am at 80% for flamming back to people flamming at me if you consider what i wrote a flame. They don't understand their own rules and are abusing their powers. They need to be controled for its getting out of hand. If i get warned to 100% today then kiss my ass goodbye on sen, but i will get on sc more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-11-14 at 23:38:56
QUOTE(Oo.Arthas.oO @ Nov 14 2006, 07:52 PM)
For the past 3 months, i've been warned by dtbk or whatever and minimoose for the dumbest of reasons. Now i am at 80% for flamming back to people flamming at me if you consider what i wrote a flame. They don't understand their own rules and are abusing their powers. They need to be controled for its getting out of hand. If i get warned to 100% today then kiss my ass goodbye on sen, but i will get on sc more.
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as for the Mp topic, what i saw was a lot of arguements based around you. I'm not sure about other places, i don't see you post more. Yes the moderators and admins don't really think about their own rules they have set, but that is what happens in almost any form of authority. It happens in the government in many countries. It is a crime if somebody kills another person or persons' but the government are exempt from that in that they can capital punish that person.

So yes, what they are doing may be wrong in your eyes -- but hey, they have the authority, we do what they say, or face the consequences.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mugen on 2006-11-15 at 16:59:31
QUOTE(Oo.Arthas.oO @ Nov 14 2006, 10:52 PM)
For the past 3 months, i've been warned by dtbk or whatever and minimoose for the dumbest of reasons. Now i am at 80% for flamming back to people flamming at me if you consider what i wrote a flame. They don't understand their own rules and are abusing their powers. They need to be controled for its getting out of hand. If i get warned to 100% today then kiss my ass goodbye on sen, but i will get on sc more.
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Seems that someone understood me

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QUOTE(Shocko @ Nov 14 2006, 11:38 PM)
as for the Mp topic, what i saw was a lot of arguements based around you. I'm not sure about other places, i don't see you post more. Yes the moderators and admins don't really think about their own rules they have set, but that is what happens in almost any form of authority. It happens in the government in many countries. It is a crime if somebody kills another person or persons' but the government are exempt from that in that they can capital punish that person.

So yes, what they are doing may be wrong in your eyes -- but hey, they have the authority, we do what they say, or face the consequences.
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Thinking like that we will always be slaves and the world will stay like shi* forever
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-11-15 at 18:40:34
ight cool man.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.ZeALoT.oO on 2006-11-15 at 18:49:11
Yeah their retards
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Zero.oO on 2006-11-15 at 18:56:10
It isnt that hard to smile and look pretty to stay out of the moderators way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-15 at 21:13:07
What is with the superstition that admins don't read clan forums?

You people sound like little children. "Don't punish me because he started it!"

Look at it this way. If person A shoots your wife, and then 3 days later you go out and murder him, you're still guilty of first degree murder, and are going to end up with a hefty sentence (generally death or life without parole, maybe life since the guy killed your wife).

All of your warns have been flaming, outright, and you have no base to cry about anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-11-15 at 21:49:54
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 15 2006, 07:13 PM)
What is with the superstition that admins don't read clan forums?

You people sound like little children.  "Don't punish me because he started it!"

Look at it this way.  If person A shoots your wife, and then 3 days later you go out and murder him, you're still guilty of first degree murder, and are going to end up with a hefty sentence (generally death or life without parole, maybe life since the guy killed your wife).

All of your warns have been flaming, outright, and you have no base to cry about anything.

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Obviously you don't do your job. You don't even read why i flammed in first place. The reason i flammed those 3 times was because I WAS FLAMMED IN FIRST PLACE and you don't bother to freaking look dtbk. You are a real piece of work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-15 at 21:53:19
Actually in the case of flame wars, both parties get warned despite the "he started it" excuse. So if he warned you and the others, then he is doing his job just fine.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-11-15 at 21:55:47
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 15 2006, 07:53 PM)
Actually in the case of flame wars, both parties get warned despite the "he started it" excuse. So if he warned you and the others, then he is doing his job just fine.

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He warned me and only me each time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-15 at 21:59:36
Do you know that for sure?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-15 at 22:18:53
QUOTE(Oo.Arthas.oO @ Nov 15 2006, 06:49 PM)
Obviously you don't do your job. You don't even read why i flammed in first place. The reason i flammed those 3 times was because I WAS FLAMMED IN FIRST PLACE and you don't bother to freaking look dtbk. You are a real piece of work.
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You totally fail to see the point. In big text, just for you:

It doesn't matter why you flamed.

Flaming is flaming and it isn't allowed. The sooner you understand that the better.

QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 15 2006, 06:59 PM)
Do you know that for sure?
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Of course he doesn't, he just loves to assume things. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, I don't remember nor do I care. The issue at point is not the warn logs of other people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-11-15 at 22:25:00
However much i hate the policy of

"it doesn't matter why you flamed."

It's true.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-15 at 22:32:00
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 15 2006, 08:18 PM)
Of course he doesn't, he just loves to assume things.  Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, I don't remember nor do I care.  The issue at point is not the warn logs of other people.
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Oh, I know. I was just asking to see what he says.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.HydrA.oO on 2006-11-15 at 22:51:14
I agree With DT in the sense that flaming is wrong no matter the reason. But also to Defend Arthas, the person whome initially flamed must be warned and stopped before he causes others to retaliate bringing them down with him.. Its a matter of quick thinking on the moderators part in order to prevent situations where someone who is innocent gets punished for flaming back, in the event that everything Arthas says is true.

In your example with murder of the man who killed the wife, the initial killer would never have been murdered if he was thrown in jail before the husband reacted. wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-11-16 at 18:58:13
This is a matter of being half off topic and not but Arthas can you link to the threads were you said the flame wars happend?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Zero.oO on 2006-11-16 at 19:23:51
Did the other guy get warned too though?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-11-16 at 19:29:57
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 16 2006, 02:13 AM)

Look at it this way.  If person A shoots your wife, and then 3 days later you go out and murder him, you're still guilty of first degree murder, and are going to end up with a hefty sentence (generally death or life without parole, maybe life since the guy killed your wife).

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Lets not try and base words with actions, we both know that if you verbally attack some1 and they verbally attack you back that the legal system is going to give them 20 years because of insults. Sticks and stones buddy. Suck it up I've had my whole life being attacked like this by people in school, I can deal with it, why cant you? Or any other admin for that matter. Anyway I'm not saying revoke the warns or change your rules because by all means I have no right to say that and the reason I'm still here is because of those rules. Just maybe try letting them slide abit more often since it doesnt really happen too much in the first place.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-11-16 at 19:41:17
QUOTE(Oo.HydrA.oO @ Nov 15 2006, 07:51 PM)
In your example with murder of the man who killed the wife, the initial killer would never have been murdered if he was thrown in jail before the husband reacted. wink.gif
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That is true. All though you say
"it doesn't matter who flamed who first, you flamed as well" all though that statement is true, the retaliation of the flame is usually a moderators, or admins failure to punish the offender so that the person being flamed doesn't have to. And seeing as we don't know when a member gets warned, maybe it would be better if you posted saying something like;

>>> Name's Deleted
>>> Warn or no warn
>>> Minerals deducted
>>> Posts deleted

even if not all of those elements are met, it would be nice to actually know when justice has been done, just to give the person offended some peace of mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-16 at 19:50:18
Arthas was recently warned and suspended for a few days. Good enough? tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-11-16 at 20:10:06
I'm all up for some fun and games. Let's call it out.

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What the hell? WHAT DID I DO WHO ARE THE 3 MEMBERS!
THE ONLY MEMBERS I TALKED TO AFTER BEING BANNED WAS LYON DARK AND EDAI WHAT THE freakING HELL AND THEY DID NOT LEAVE OR DO crap
CAYDEN READ THE MESSAGE AND THOUGHT U SCREWED ME OVER AND MOOGLE STAYING NEUTRAL
WHAT THE freak DO YOU HAVE AGAINST ME GODDAMN I"M SORRY IF I OFFENDED U FOR CALLING U ASIAN JESUS CHRIST

DTBK warning you for this is unfair?

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A son of a bithc dog who took the clan into dictatorship.

I suppose there's no censor evasion there and there's no flame there either.

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You know absolutely nothing about cod3 and doom3 and you don't listen...just quit sen so we can all be happy you dumbfreak. I'm not gonna bother prove you wrong.

"Go quit SEN, it'll make everyone happier fool". Yes. DEFINITELY not a flame.

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^=A true fanboy at work

Another REAL positive statement. I'm sure a lot of good comes out of this one, too. (I actually would've let you argue this one down to a verbal, but you chose this route instead)

Don't pin the blame on us if you flame in retaliation to anything, we aren't responsible for your actions. Plus, you have the time delay of the internet to think out your responses. Anyway, you've said you're not coming back. So, bye.

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EDIT: Oh, hey, look, I've found another.
QUOTE(Oo.Arthas.oO @ Nov 13 2006, 02:41 AM)
You disgust us all when you act mature when we all know you are some 7 year old vampire wannabe. Wanna talk everyone out of that? Fine i'll get you the quote once you post back.

I suppose that one isn't a flame, either?

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QUOTE(Oo.Arthas.oO @ Nov 14 2006, 08:10 PM)
We were going to JOIN xm because mp was freaked over by that tyrant and his dog.
That, too, is not a flame. Right?
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