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Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2006-11-20 at 02:43:30
Alright recently I made a poll on rating your SC gaming skills and to my annoyance people voted themselves as great as being a pro gamer but this video will seriosly make you reconsider:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62...003&q=starcraft

This is what a true pro gamer is, and it has quite a long amount of footage for you to feast your eyes on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-20 at 08:05:07
Korea has 24 hour game channel for SC. Iam dead serious too. Boxer was one of my favorite players. But hes now a conscript in korean army.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-11-20 at 09:25:25
QUOTE(smasher25 @ Nov 20 2006, 03:43 AM)
Alright recently I made a poll on rating your SC gaming skills and to my annoyance people voted themselves as great as being a pro gamer but this video will seriosly make you reconsider:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62...003&q=starcraft

This is what a true pro gamer is, and it has quite a long amount of footage for you to feast your eyes on.
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To koreans video games is like a sport.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-11-20 at 15:11:40
I never said I was good. I seriously don't know how people can be that good at games though.. I play a lot, but I never get that good sad.gif Not fair!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nintendo_Confed on 2006-11-20 at 17:28:43
Someone should get an Sc replay of these guys playing, not a video.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-20 at 17:59:55
um. you will get all the replays on that video for us?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2006-11-21 at 04:18:42
Dude you gotta be crazy, I would have to get 20 replays, and I will have a bit of troulbe finding Korean sites where it has 20 replays all from Pro gamers but I could post a few Pro Gaming Videos on here. (not replays though but just medium lenght videos)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-21 at 09:57:42
i wasnt asking you. i was asking the confident guy above me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-11-21 at 16:56:08
No.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2006-11-21 at 19:24:03
I've only seen the first six minutes of that footage, it's what I always see typically in almost every melee match I've been through: Mass Production, Mass Attack, Strong Base. The part where they recall or drop in units such as dragoons and ultralisks seems old. On the intro, they said "15v1", but I don't see it actually happening and the part with 2 marines and 2 medics destroying that base doesn't seem that great. Although Koreans play this game as veterans, the word "pro" doesn't seem anything new. I'm not saying that I'm as good as them, I'm just saying that gameplay was already been there, and done that. I've expected a lot though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-22 at 02:25:32
If you've seen Boxer's games. He does alot of amazing stuffs =/.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-22 at 03:19:04
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Nov 20 2006, 12:11 PM)
I never said I was good. I seriously don't know how people can be that good at games though.. I play a lot, but I never get that good sad.gif Not fair!
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Ever attended a Starcraft class? Yes, they have them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-22 at 06:44:20
Yes they do. Yes they do. 60$ for a class I think.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nintendo_Confed on 2006-11-22 at 09:31:47
QUOTE(smasher25 @ Nov 21 2006, 06:18 AM)
Dude you gotta be crazy, I would have to get 20 replays, and I will have  a bit of troulbe finding Korean sites where it has 20 replays all from Pro gamers but I could post a few Pro Gaming Videos on here. (not replays though but just medium lenght videos)
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I dont mean 20 of them, just like 1 or 2

QUOTE(Lithium @ Nov 21 2006, 11:57 AM)
i wasnt asking you. i was asking the confident guy above me.
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Who? ME?

QUOTE(Lithium @ Nov 22 2006, 08:44 AM)
Yes they do. Yes they do. 60$ for a class I think.
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Wow... who would attend one of those?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-11-22 at 09:49:58
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 22 2006, 04:19 AM)
Ever attended a Starcraft class?  Yes, they have them.
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What.
The.
Hell..?

Seriously, that's just stupid... but I bet it's a big hit in south korea, or wherever they are held tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-22 at 11:34:32
Actually, in korea many people attended those classes. People even get paid for playing starcraft anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-11-22 at 12:43:05
And who pays for the classes? Parents? Does anybody else see anything totally fawked up with that? Sending your child to school to get better at Starcraft? -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-22 at 22:59:31
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Nov 22 2006, 09:43 AM)
And who pays for the classes? Parents? Does anybody else see anything totally fawked up with that? Sending your child to school to get better at Starcraft? -_-
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Perhaps. Think of it as analogous to going to a soccer clinic here in the US.

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Wow... who would attend one of those?


Oh, lots of people. My friend took one just to come back and pwn my noobish ass (I totally suck at melee, but I could beat him before, kinda sad).

Starcraft is a billion-dollar industry, and the pros make 9-figure won salaries playing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-11-23 at 00:17:01
So it actually works... what the heck do they teach there... like micro or strategy... and how does it work... do you just play SC all day with some guy sitting behind your back, or do you read textbooks? tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-23 at 00:54:41
I'd have to ask. Whatever it was though, my friend got substantially better.

Then of course, he was really bad to start with tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2006-11-23 at 04:06:42
Starcraft is like pro sports for many pro gamers. They almost make as much money as Canadian hockey players do that's how popular it is, however I heard that these days people watch more starcraft than play it, I heard SC is being taken over by some other online games.

As for a replay here you go:
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puddin on 2006-12-06 at 23:39:04
First off, I'd like to make a start with:
Of course these guys are pros, look at them! They're Korean! tongue.gif
Ahem.
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 22 2006, 08:59 PM)
Perhaps.  Think of it as analogous to going to a soccer clinic here in the US.
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A soccer clinic in the US is something much more productive than playing a video game. People that play soccer get physically fit.
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I can't think of anything productive about taking a class to play a video game. Other than making 9-figure salaries.
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That may be one reason to take a class.
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What I'm trying to say here is that parents take children to soccer lessons because kids will get out more and because kids will stay fit. Parents wont look at getting lessons for a video game (not to mention paying $60 dollars for it) to be healthy for their children.
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Except for Koreans of course. tongue.gif Just kidding happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-12-07 at 02:42:22
When you get to a professional level of something like Starcraft, you start getting mentally fit. Very fit. How else do people manage 80 APM and micro so well?

It's not like there's a huge advantage to being able to leg-press 200 lbs. in today's world.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-12-07 at 07:17:00
80 APM?

More like 400 APM. I have over 80 APM.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-12-07 at 14:40:22
Nothing new or exciting about this =/ It's been about half a decade since it first took off.

For VODs of StarCraft: http://www.teamliquid.net/tracker/

For Replays: GosuGamers.net (search for progamers, like "NaDa, sAviOr, iloveoov etc")

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They almost make as much money as Canadian hockey players do that's how popular it is, however I heard that these days people watch more starcraft than play it, I heard SC is being taken over by some other online games.

Erm, they're a little ways away from making as much money as NHL players =/ Only the very best make 6 digit salaries in StarCraft (I think prize money + endoursments for some players has put them well over 500k). But in the NHL it's not uncommon to have a salary of 7 digits, and the minimum is like 400k. They're getting there though.


To anyone who questions the validity of gaming as a career: It's an entertainment media like any other. Movies, sports, television and music. All the same thing. You have no right to say your media of entertainment is any better.
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