Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-21 at 13:13:25
While driving in bus today I was brainstorming about things that I would like to have in my favorite editor. Now there you go.
The difference between editor display and in-game screen always have been a pain in the ass for me. So I though about an option that would put up a "in-game" panel and a border on the display. This way you could see exactly how the scene will look ingame without running SC. Also it would help with location-wise triggers where you have to cover the ingame screen and stuff like that. Also you could put there some option like setting the paned transparent and race changeable.
The other thing I think would help is to put some general tutorials and lists directly in the editor. Just a simple list of tutorials, click the one you need and a table with it shows up. Nothing fancy required. Why is this needed? When I work on maps often I need to go to SEN or other online resources to get simple things like unit attack/movement speed, disable list and all of the kind. Just few general things like this, that are not exactly the things you can just remember.
So what do you think?
The difference between editor display and in-game screen always have been a pain in the ass for me. So I though about an option that would put up a "in-game" panel and a border on the display. This way you could see exactly how the scene will look ingame without running SC. Also it would help with location-wise triggers where you have to cover the ingame screen and stuff like that. Also you could put there some option like setting the paned transparent and race changeable.
The other thing I think would help is to put some general tutorials and lists directly in the editor. Just a simple list of tutorials, click the one you need and a table with it shows up. Nothing fancy required. Why is this needed? When I work on maps often I need to go to SEN or other online resources to get simple things like unit attack/movement speed, disable list and all of the kind. Just few general things like this, that are not exactly the things you can just remember.
So what do you think?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by spinesheath on 2006-11-21 at 14:20:16
I support the ingame-look idea 
As of the tutorials: Either you make it customizable so that you have one folder where you can put in text files which are then selectable in SCMD2, or - this is for you, DEAD: Just collect the needed text files in a folder and add a link to this folder to your task bar. That's how I do it; it's easily "customizable".
As of the tutorials: Either you make it customizable so that you have one folder where you can put in text files which are then selectable in SCMD2, or - this is for you, DEAD: Just collect the needed text files in a folder and add a link to this folder to your task bar. That's how I do it; it's easily "customizable".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-21 at 14:33:15
I had planned the ingame look for this version, but thought it was stored as a pcx and not .bin and several grps. since I dont have any bin loading code it isn't done, I may finish it some day tho...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-21 at 14:36:15
Cool SI.
And spines, yes I keep them as text files, but it would be cool if they would come with the editor in the first place. I mean for other people.
And spines, yes I keep them as text files, but it would be cool if they would come with the editor in the first place. I mean for other people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by spinesheath on 2006-11-21 at 14:40:00
Those who don't need them won't find it THAT cool 
Anyways, IF tutorials, then customizable by just adding text files to some folder, and then you can offer tutorial packages
Anyways, IF tutorials, then customizable by just adding text files to some folder, and then you can offer tutorial packages
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-21 at 14:57:23
Sounds cool. Like a local tutorial DB. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-11-21 at 15:28:01
I remember suggesting that in-game idea a while ago. I thought you said it was impossible or something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-21 at 15:36:48
How is putting a transparent image over the display impossible?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-11-21 at 17:49:14
Well you wouldn't see the trigger affected units that have been disabled and such. I sort of forget.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by spinesheath on 2006-11-21 at 18:14:39
Oh yeah, SI could emulate SC in SCMD2 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-21 at 19:17:42
QUOTE(spinesheath @ Nov 21 2006, 06:14 PM)
Oh yeah, SI could emulate SC in SCMD2
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I've had a private version for a year or more with unit movement :>
moving a unit: select and rightclick
Report, edit, etc...Posted by spinesheath on 2006-11-22 at 05:24:08
I would prefer it if you included a drag-and-drop for units etc.
Also, I doubt your units cared about unwalkable terrain?
Also, I doubt your units cared about unwalkable terrain?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-22 at 08:47:42
QUOTE(SI @ Nov 22 2006, 03:17 AM)
I've had a private version for a year or more with unit movement :>
moving a unit: select and rightclick
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Nice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-22 at 12:25:04
QUOTE(spinesheath @ Nov 22 2006, 05:24 AM)
I would prefer it if you included a drag-and-drop for units etc.
Also, I doubt your units cared about unwalkable terrain?
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actually, they did
Report, edit, etc...Posted by spinesheath on 2006-11-22 at 12:44:36
So you wrote a pathfinding algorithm?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-22 at 18:37:10
friend let me use his, which I then adapted
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-22 at 23:30:45
Why didn't you add that feature in the public Draft? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-23 at 11:07:29
my toy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-11-23 at 11:36:46
Bad SI! We want uber cool feature too! Dont make me get moose to put you back in the coding cage*.
*Coding Cage - A prison designed for SI where he cannot eat or sleep and can only code.
*Coding Cage - A prison designed for SI where he cannot eat or sleep and can only code.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-11-23 at 11:40:15
so you're one of those kids that never shared their toys eh? are you gonna release it in a future version? cause it'd make unit placement less annoying
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-23 at 15:22:19
no, there was some part of it that didn't always work and I never finished it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2006-11-23 at 16:50:03
Hmm.. we should make a game SI!!!
Ooooo!! Lets call it "Worcraft in Space". Worcraft to not conflict with Warcraft.
OMG will it be the best game ever! We can have a super high tech race!!! A non-tech race!!! oo and a race that resembles humans!!
Ooooo!! Lets call it "Worcraft in Space". Worcraft to not conflict with Warcraft.
OMG will it be the best game ever! We can have a super high tech race!!! A non-tech race!!! oo and a race that resembles humans!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-11-23 at 18:44:33
heh I once started an easteregg but didn't finish it....
asteroids with scout and overlords
asteroids with scout and overlords
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-11-23 at 20:55:53
To get the "ingame" look, you could always take a screenshot and take only the panel :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-11-25 at 00:05:20
QUOTE(SI @ Nov 23 2006, 12:22 PM)
no, there was some part of it that didn't always work and I never finished it...
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lol, are you ever gonna get around to finishing it?