Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord-Omega on 2006-11-21 at 18:54:55
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I need help with what I should make unit's attacks for this Defence I'm making called Carried Defence... heres all the waves health and armor...
1 armor
wave1: 100 hp (overlord)
wave2: 200 hp (infested terran)
wave3: 300 hp (defiler)
wave4: 400 hp (hydralisk)
wave5: 500 hp (ultralisk)
wave6: 600 hp (zergling)
wave7: 700 hp (drone)
wave8: 800 hp (devour)
wave9: 900 hp (guardian)
2 armor
wave10: 1100 hp (mutalisk)
wave11: 1200 hp (queen)
wave12: 1300 hp (scourge)
wave13: 1400 hp (firebat)
wave14: 1500 hp (wraith)
wave15: 1600 hp (valkyrie)
wave16: 1700 hp (science vessel)
wave17: 1800 hp (ghost)
wave18: 1900 hp (golith)
3 armor
wave19: 2100 hp (marine)
wave20: 2200 hp (battle cruiser)
wave21: 2300 hp (dropship)
wave22: 2400 hp (medic)
wave23: 2500 hp (tank)
wave24: 2600 hp (vulture)
wave25: 2700 hp (observer)
wave26: 2800 hp (corsair)
wave27: 2900 hp (shuttle)
4 armor
wave28: 3100 hp (scout)
wave29: 3200 hp (archon)
wave30: 3300 hp (dark templar)
wave31: 3400 hp (dragoon)
wave32: 3500 hp (high templar)
wave33: 3600 hp (reaver)
wave34: 3700 hp (zealot)
wave35: 3800 hp (carrier)
10 armor
waveX: 4500 hp (dark archon, arbiter)
ok so theres all 36 waves health and armor and heres all unit you get to defend with, what i need help with is your defending units attack and anything you think might need to be changed...
take note these would be hero units,
Golith: Ground Atk:??? Air Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Firebat: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Marine: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Kerrigan: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Dragoon: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
High Templar: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Archon: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Hydralisk: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Infested Kerrigan: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
also, you will be able to build turrets and photon cannons so...
Turret: Atk:???
Photon Cannon: Atk:???
1 armor
wave1: 100 hp (overlord)
wave2: 200 hp (infested terran)
wave3: 300 hp (defiler)
wave4: 400 hp (hydralisk)
wave5: 500 hp (ultralisk)
wave6: 600 hp (zergling)
wave7: 700 hp (drone)
wave8: 800 hp (devour)
wave9: 900 hp (guardian)
2 armor
wave10: 1100 hp (mutalisk)
wave11: 1200 hp (queen)
wave12: 1300 hp (scourge)
wave13: 1400 hp (firebat)
wave14: 1500 hp (wraith)
wave15: 1600 hp (valkyrie)
wave16: 1700 hp (science vessel)
wave17: 1800 hp (ghost)
wave18: 1900 hp (golith)
3 armor
wave19: 2100 hp (marine)
wave20: 2200 hp (battle cruiser)
wave21: 2300 hp (dropship)
wave22: 2400 hp (medic)
wave23: 2500 hp (tank)
wave24: 2600 hp (vulture)
wave25: 2700 hp (observer)
wave26: 2800 hp (corsair)
wave27: 2900 hp (shuttle)
4 armor
wave28: 3100 hp (scout)
wave29: 3200 hp (archon)
wave30: 3300 hp (dark templar)
wave31: 3400 hp (dragoon)
wave32: 3500 hp (high templar)
wave33: 3600 hp (reaver)
wave34: 3700 hp (zealot)
wave35: 3800 hp (carrier)
10 armor
waveX: 4500 hp (dark archon, arbiter)
ok so theres all 36 waves health and armor and heres all unit you get to defend with, what i need help with is your defending units attack and anything you think might need to be changed...
take note these would be hero units,
Golith: Ground Atk:??? Air Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Firebat: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Marine: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Kerrigan: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Dragoon: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
High Templar: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Archon: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Hydralisk: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
Infested Kerrigan: Atk:??? Bounus: 10
also, you will be able to build turrets and photon cannons so...
Turret: Atk:???
Photon Cannon: Atk:???
Plz Help
Report, edit, etc...Posted by R0y- on 2006-11-21 at 22:54:38
I think what you're asking is for how much damage the units should do? Hmmm... Feels like wrong section.
Best thing to do is EXPERIMENT. Considering cooldown time, obviously ghosts and dragoons would do more damage then marines and hydras. Probably more damage for shorter ranges. You haven't mentioned upgrades for these units, and I suggest that they have good bonus dmg for the higher waves.
If all this is garbage, please re-state your question.
Best thing to do is EXPERIMENT. Considering cooldown time, obviously ghosts and dragoons would do more damage then marines and hydras. Probably more damage for shorter ranges. You haven't mentioned upgrades for these units, and I suggest that they have good bonus dmg for the higher waves.
If all this is garbage, please re-state your question.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ReCoN on 2006-11-21 at 22:57:23
QUOTE(R0y- @ Nov 21 2006, 07:54 PM)
I think what you're asking is for how much damage the units should do? Hmmm... Feels like wrong section.
Best thing to do is EXPERIMENT. Considering cooldown time, obviously ghosts and dragoons would do more damage then marines and hydras. Probably more damage for shorter ranges. You haven't mentioned upgrades for these units, and I suggest that they have good bonus dmg for the higher waves.
If all this is garbage, please re-state your question.
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Best thing to do is EXPERIMENT. Considering cooldown time, obviously ghosts and dragoons would do more damage then marines and hydras. Probably more damage for shorter ranges. You haven't mentioned upgrades for these units, and I suggest that they have good bonus dmg for the higher waves.
If all this is garbage, please re-state your question.
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Ideas maybe?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Storm_Templar on 2006-11-22 at 09:38:16
how long will the "road" be that the units travel on?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord-Omega on 2006-11-22 at 10:53:28
ok im making it so all units can get 255 ups and they get a 10 bounus, the road is about uhhh, very long, its called carried defence cause 1 wave goes through 7 people before it can reach the end so the road is over 500 square's(blocks)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-11-22 at 14:38:11
The best way to balance is just to guess and check. If the enemies are way too strong, make them weaker or your units stronger. If they're weaker, vise versa.
As far as balancing units between each other, playtest it and see which units you are more inclined to buy. After playing a few times with one unit, then a few with another, etc., go to buy them again and record your feeling of which unit you want to buy and why that unit stood out as better to you. Then, balance accordlingly.
General advice would be to keep in mind unit speed and armor type in your setting enemy health, though. For example, 200 hp infested terran might be harder to defend than 300 hp defiler, since ITs are so much faster. And 2600 hp vulture would be a lot harder to defend than 3600 hp reaver or 3500 high templar.
As far as balancing units between each other, playtest it and see which units you are more inclined to buy. After playing a few times with one unit, then a few with another, etc., go to buy them again and record your feeling of which unit you want to buy and why that unit stood out as better to you. Then, balance accordlingly.
General advice would be to keep in mind unit speed and armor type in your setting enemy health, though. For example, 200 hp infested terran might be harder to defend than 300 hp defiler, since ITs are so much faster. And 2600 hp vulture would be a lot harder to defend than 3600 hp reaver or 3500 high templar.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-11-22 at 23:54:12
So, your asking us to balance it for you lol? Nice try. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord-Omega on 2006-11-23 at 17:02:26
its my first time making a defence thats why i was asking for the help, and i know about unit speed making a diferance, i made the order of waves the way i want them to be.