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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-27 at 23:59:20
I was just wondering, has/does anybody here lived/live in Tokyo, or another large Japanese city? I kinda want to study abroad there in the future, but I wanted to see if anyone had previous experience.

I'm prepared for a mild culture shock, but just wanted to ask if somebody knows firsthand.

12,000,000 people + one of the busiest urban centers in the world? Should be an interesting experience...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-28 at 00:49:12
Just, fyi, the Toyko metropolitan area is home to over 28,000,000 people, the largest in the world.

No experience, but you could start by decoding my sig tongue.gif

...and losing that attitude on education. Have fun going to school happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FatalException on 2006-11-28 at 00:53:01
Get a taste for anime and don't get weirded out by people with toilet paper hats. tongue.gif

DTBK: Your signature looks like a bunch of boxes to me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-28 at 02:20:40
Get a Unicode font, uncultured swine!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-11-28 at 15:12:15
All I know from a documentary is that white women had a lot of problems in Tokyo yawn.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-28 at 18:39:38
Pop trivia: How many Caucasian women have ever officially become a geisha?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-11-28 at 18:49:46
I tried to install east asian fonts, but windows said it would take 200ish MB (which I pretty much don't have).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-28 at 18:56:38
A friend of mine in Japan sometimes tells me about "attitudes" towards foreigners. This is expected naturally (a little), but what's the status about discrimination in Japan? Anybody know firsthand?

http://www.chijihon.metro.tokyo.jp/english...W/overview3.htm
Well, this among several other sources say 12 mil. Perhaps you're including the "suburb areas" (they're not called those, are they in Japan?) as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-11-28 at 18:59:06
I read somewhere that they are only nice to foreigners who knows a little japanese and are nice and respect their culture. Like saying thank you, Hi, nice to meet you and etc.

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Pop trivia: How many Caucasian women have ever officially become a geisha?

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-28 at 20:36:37
I dunno, but I do remember seeing Jennifer Garner dressed as a geisha for a certain occasion once...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-11-28 at 20:55:14
Your signature makes it look like your very sexually into Misato.

I definitely want to live in Tokyo at some point, I have a thing for big cities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-28 at 21:33:18
QUOTE(Hofodomo @ Nov 28 2006, 03:56 PM)
A friend of mine in Japan sometimes tells me about "attitudes" towards foreigners.  This is expected naturally (a little), but what's the status about discrimination in Japan?  Anybody know firsthand?

http://www.chijihon.metro.tokyo.jp/english...W/overview3.htm
Well, this among several other sources say 12 mil.  Perhaps you're including the "suburb areas" (they're not called those, are they in Japan?) as well.
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Yes, the 27 million figure is the metropolitan area: Tokyo proper and surrounding suburbs (as long as you're speaking English, suburb goes just fine).

One of the big reasons the Japanese strongly discourage immigration is because they feel that the morality of their culture will be disrupted. Right now, if you go to the store, you ride your bike there and then leave it outside, no locks required. They fear that foreigners will bring disharmony and crime to Japan.

Learn Japanese and smash your American accent and you'll get a long way towards bridging the gap.

Remember, number one step is not to butcher Romanized Japanese. Quiz 1: How many syllables is 'Tokyo'?

QUOTE(EcHo @ Nov 28 2006, 03:59 PM)
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Close, but wrong tongue.gif

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I tried to install east asian fonts, but windows said it would take 200ish MB (which I pretty much don't have).


http://www.orwell.ru/test/download/

Download TTF. Put in $SYSTEM\FONTS
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-28 at 21:47:41
Not sure about the Japanese...I think Tokyo is entirely made of kanji...so in Chinese (dong jing) it would be...two syllables? Really don't know, though...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-11-28 at 21:52:21
1?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-11-29 at 08:07:02
to-kyo

not to-ki-yo as most people pronounce it


anyway if you are really interested in learning japanese and whatnot. what i would suggest is learning the basic 46 characters (and learn how to pronounce them correctly) then the extended characters. the next step would be to learn katakana (since that is the most used, especially with international things such as manga anime etc.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-11-29 at 11:10:22
Japanese has a tendency to treat other races differently ( in a bad way ) from their own. I for one, would not like to live in Tokyo or any of Japan's major cities. Anyone would be GREAT to translate this.
일본

Also, Japan doesn't have alot of minorities in their country. One race country as you could say, and like all other countries in Asia; except for China. One race country.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-11-29 at 17:45:05
일본
That is Korean for Japan?
Now translate this:
일본 개새끼
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-29 at 18:05:42
How many different races live in China? There's a lot of ethnic minorities and such, but as far as I know, it's largely native Chinese...

Then again, I really wouldn't be able to tell if they're Korean or Japanese instead of Chinese....maybe the hair dye is a givaway? wink.gif (that's a joke...)

Well, after browsing around, I found this guy's page, which is basically some info on Japanese social/cultural aspects. He says he's lived in Japan, so I'm guessing it's fairly accurate...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-11-29 at 18:18:26
Since China is so large even though a lot of its people are native they look and speak differnt. Also there are places like Hong Kong where there are dense minorities.

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Then again, I really wouldn't be able to tell if they're Korean or Japanese instead of Chinese....maybe the hair dye is a givaway? wink.gif (that's a joke...)


there are slight differations in facial features that you can tell them apart. Such as Chinese have higher cheek bones. But as i said before since China is so vast it would be easier telling koreans/japanese apart from Chinese than koreans from japanese.

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Japanese has a tendency to treat other races differently ( in a bad way ) from their own. I for one, would not like to live in Tokyo or any of Japan's major cities. Anyone would be GREAT to translate this.


The same goes for every other race? Every race has descrimination on some level to another.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-11-29 at 19:41:29
You're not going to like their food at first. It'll probably take you awhile to get used to. This goes for any culture change, your mouth isn't used to the food they eat.

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Japanese has a tendency to treat other races differently ( in a bad way ) from their own. I for one, would not like to live in Tokyo or any of Japan's major cities.
Who told you that? I heard the exact opposite. I heard that because they have so few foriegners, they don't even notice skin colour (they see it, but their mind dismisses it as unimportant). They tell people apart based on other features of a face, like the chin, nose and hairline. This was what my teacher said, who visited Japan with a similar looking man, but much darker skin than his (they always got their names mixed up).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-29 at 22:12:19
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Nov 29 2006, 05:07 AM)
to-kyo

not to-ki-yo as most people pronounce it
anyway if you are really interested in learning japanese and whatnot. what i would suggest is learning the basic 46 characters (and learn how to pronounce them correctly)  then the extended characters. the next step would be to learn katakana (since that is the most used, especially with international things such as manga anime etc.)
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Well, katakana aren't that useful in day-to-day life, since they are only used for the phonetic iteration of names and the pronunciation of foreign loan words since it has a wider syllabic base.

QUOTE(HolySin @ Nov 29 2006, 02:45 PM)
일본
That is Korean for Japan?
Now translate this:
일본 개새끼
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I was going to say.. THAT WASN'T JAPANESE!

QUOTE(Hofodomo @ Nov 29 2006, 03:05 PM)
How many different races live in China?  There's a lot of ethnic minorities and such, but as far as I know, it's largely native Chinese...
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Races in China? At least 30, but the majority (Han Chinese) is over 90% dominant, and good luck telling the others apart.

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Then again, I really wouldn't be able to tell if they're Korean or Japanese instead of Chinese....maybe the hair dye is a givaway? wink.gif  (that's a joke...)


With practice it isn't that hard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-11-29 at 22:21:27
How many women DTBK?
4?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-11-29 at 22:32:33
One, you were right the second time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-11-29 at 22:34:36
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One, you were right the second time.
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Lol, out of 100000000 caucasian women, only 1 tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-11-29 at 22:50:07
Hmmm...and who was that?


Well, probably won't encounter any Chinese minorities unless you go out far from the east coast...
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