Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2007-01-16 at 22:29:08
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Base word: Race Affix: ism
ism means to discriminate based on aforementioned word. ex Sexism, ageism, hieghtism, etc.
Sometimes discrimination is good. Women have less muscle than men in general, and thus less should be expected of them physically (if you had to guess for some reason). Usually it's bad.
If you tell a racist joke, you are specifically talking about a race, and not others, thus, discrimination.
ism means to discriminate based on aforementioned word. ex Sexism, ageism, hieghtism, etc.
Sometimes discrimination is good. Women have less muscle than men in general, and thus less should be expected of them physically (if you had to guess for some reason). Usually it's bad.
If you tell a racist joke, you are specifically talking about a race, and not others, thus, discrimination.
Just a note I wanted to bring in for further reference, what you mentioned was a "generalization", which in essence isn't discriminating or racist (and can most likely even be valid).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puddin on 2007-01-27 at 01:27:33
The "N" word was a word created back in the day when
African-Americans were slaves, the "N" word was used to to insult
African-Americans. I do agree that the two audience members shouldn't have been hackling with Richards, but the way Richards reacted was totally unnecissary. He was clearly coming up with insults as he went, and decided to use the "N" word because he thought it was offensive. The two audience members did find it offensive, and Richards was called off-stage for it. The audience members were the cause of this problem, but Richards took it to a lower level. The "N" word shouldn't be used by anybody, given any situation.
African-Americans were slaves, the "N" word was used to to insult
African-Americans. I do agree that the two audience members shouldn't have been hackling with Richards, but the way Richards reacted was totally unnecissary. He was clearly coming up with insults as he went, and decided to use the "N" word because he thought it was offensive. The two audience members did find it offensive, and Richards was called off-stage for it. The audience members were the cause of this problem, but Richards took it to a lower level. The "N" word shouldn't be used by anybody, given any situation.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2007-01-27 at 08:23:51
QUOTE(Puddin @ Jan 27 2007, 01:27 AM)
The "N" word was a word created back in the day when
African-Americans were slaves, the "N" word was used to to insult
African-Americans. I do agree that the two audience members shouldn't have been hackling with Richards, but the way Richards reacted was totally unnecissary. He was clearly coming up with insults as he went, and decided to use the "N" word because he thought it was offensive. The two audience members did find it offensive, and Richards was called off-stage for it. The audience members were the cause of this problem, but Richards took it to a lower level. The "N" word shouldn't be used by anybody, given any situation.
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African-Americans were slaves, the "N" word was used to to insult
African-Americans. I do agree that the two audience members shouldn't have been hackling with Richards, but the way Richards reacted was totally unnecissary. He was clearly coming up with insults as he went, and decided to use the "N" word because he thought it was offensive. The two audience members did find it offensive, and Richards was called off-stage for it. The audience members were the cause of this problem, but Richards took it to a lower level. The "N" word shouldn't be used by anybody, given any situation.
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but at the same time the 2 african-americans also used the "C" word but at all knowone can be blamed. As long as the freedom of speech bill is alive people can get way with anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2007-01-27 at 08:25:34
Just because someone's a member of an ethnic minority doesn't mean he's not a nasty pompous ignorant jerk...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2007-01-27 at 11:10:59
Sorry, I haven't read most of this topic. I'm just gonna state my views.
I've been a bit hesitant to post in this topic, because I don't want to come off like a racist. But the very fact that I feel that hesitation is a sign that there's flaws in the way our so called "politically correct" society handles racism. The truth is, I will actually defend people (to some degree) who have intolerance towards different groups.
There's sort of a "witchhunt" going on for people who are intolerant towards another race or another sexual preference. Basically, its a very concious choice by society to discourage intolerant attitudes. If you have those views, then you are not encouraged to be honest about them. It's almost like people who finally go public about their intolerance have somehow done something so horrible and unforgivable that there's no turning back. Almost like they've somehow been possessed by some sort of demon. They will forever be labeled a racist (or a homophob, etc.).
But most people who feel intolerance towards certain groups usually don't feel that way for no reason. I believe racism is a byproduct of a very natural and essential survival skill. Throughout life, you need to have the ability to quickly assess situations and people to determine the best course of action as quickly as possible. It relies heavily on assumptions, because you will never have the time to investigate every single case. Having negative experiences in a pattern associated with certain people and things lead to a pattern in your behavior that will cause you to avoid and dislike those people/things. If you ask me, that's perfectly NORMAL.
But if someone is unfortunate enough to have a bunch of negative experiences with certain ethnic groups, and therefor develop negative assumptions about them, then they are heavily pressured to never reveal how they feel. They wouldn't want everyone to find out that they're THE THING!!!
Why can't we just be honest about how we think towards ethnic/sexual preference groups that we've developed a problem with? I'll lead by example: Personally, I have negative assumptions about blacks, hispanics, homosexuals, bisexuals, and drug users. There, I said it. I wasn't born with these, but consistent negative experiences with them have caused me to not want to get to know any new ones I meet, because I believe they will probably be like the ones who affected me in the past. And guess what... My assumptions usually aren't wrong.
Have I been infected by some sort of demon? No! Can I usually function without allowing these things to affect me on a noticable level? Absolutely. But god forbid I ever stand up in public and say that.
I have more to say, but its not coming to me ATM.
Also, 1000 posts!!!
I've been a bit hesitant to post in this topic, because I don't want to come off like a racist. But the very fact that I feel that hesitation is a sign that there's flaws in the way our so called "politically correct" society handles racism. The truth is, I will actually defend people (to some degree) who have intolerance towards different groups.
There's sort of a "witchhunt" going on for people who are intolerant towards another race or another sexual preference. Basically, its a very concious choice by society to discourage intolerant attitudes. If you have those views, then you are not encouraged to be honest about them. It's almost like people who finally go public about their intolerance have somehow done something so horrible and unforgivable that there's no turning back. Almost like they've somehow been possessed by some sort of demon. They will forever be labeled a racist (or a homophob, etc.).
But most people who feel intolerance towards certain groups usually don't feel that way for no reason. I believe racism is a byproduct of a very natural and essential survival skill. Throughout life, you need to have the ability to quickly assess situations and people to determine the best course of action as quickly as possible. It relies heavily on assumptions, because you will never have the time to investigate every single case. Having negative experiences in a pattern associated with certain people and things lead to a pattern in your behavior that will cause you to avoid and dislike those people/things. If you ask me, that's perfectly NORMAL.
But if someone is unfortunate enough to have a bunch of negative experiences with certain ethnic groups, and therefor develop negative assumptions about them, then they are heavily pressured to never reveal how they feel. They wouldn't want everyone to find out that they're THE THING!!!
Why can't we just be honest about how we think towards ethnic/sexual preference groups that we've developed a problem with? I'll lead by example: Personally, I have negative assumptions about blacks, hispanics, homosexuals, bisexuals, and drug users. There, I said it. I wasn't born with these, but consistent negative experiences with them have caused me to not want to get to know any new ones I meet, because I believe they will probably be like the ones who affected me in the past. And guess what... My assumptions usually aren't wrong.
Have I been infected by some sort of demon? No! Can I usually function without allowing these things to affect me on a noticable level? Absolutely. But god forbid I ever stand up in public and say that.
I have more to say, but its not coming to me ATM.
Also, 1000 posts!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2007-01-27 at 12:05:12
"N" word was used to insult? The word "Negro" was the official term back then. But African Americans didnt like the sound of it. So others started calling them "Blacks". But it's also not politically correct for them. So now we call them African Americans. But it seems that name is not likeable to these 'African-American's either. I don't know what I should call them anymore.
Also, everyone can be 'Racist' and prejudiced to some extent. Some are just way ego. On a side note, I haven't read much.
There is a catch to this. Hatred because of some differences in skin color and eye width is a problem. But some mistaken word uses and calling it racism is just blatant. Also, many people seem to believe Asians are just smart. It's the environment they live in make them more academic than other ethnics. Most of the Asian parents force their children to study and enforce some kind of order.
I don't know about whites. But they've got a lot of ego. And they can support it with the mass media. Some christen themselves as the 'Master Race'. The world of bigotry.
Me being a Asian myself, don't like the idea of making Asians the prejudicely smart. A simple egoboost, but also a big burden of peer pressure. Even teachers critisize Asians who don't get the first place. Also, theres problems with Asians as well. As me being an Asian has this 'Asian Supremacist' view. A view that leads them to believe that they are just automatically smarter because they are asian. I seem to live in a imperfect world with imperfect minds born in a imperfect race.
Sure Mexicans are not prejudicely dirty, lazy, and smelly. But it's what some of them in the streets of LA cause others to believe. They indeed are dirty, lazy, and smelly when you think of a fat hispanic with flappy hats on. What makes the exalted negative view on them? It's just the prejudice that everyone and everymen and women have.
On note, don't be offended. Because I've insulted almost every race that exists in this bigoted world.
Also, everyone can be 'Racist' and prejudiced to some extent. Some are just way ego. On a side note, I haven't read much.
There is a catch to this. Hatred because of some differences in skin color and eye width is a problem. But some mistaken word uses and calling it racism is just blatant. Also, many people seem to believe Asians are just smart. It's the environment they live in make them more academic than other ethnics. Most of the Asian parents force their children to study and enforce some kind of order.
I don't know about whites. But they've got a lot of ego. And they can support it with the mass media. Some christen themselves as the 'Master Race'. The world of bigotry.
Me being a Asian myself, don't like the idea of making Asians the prejudicely smart. A simple egoboost, but also a big burden of peer pressure. Even teachers critisize Asians who don't get the first place. Also, theres problems with Asians as well. As me being an Asian has this 'Asian Supremacist' view. A view that leads them to believe that they are just automatically smarter because they are asian. I seem to live in a imperfect world with imperfect minds born in a imperfect race.
Sure Mexicans are not prejudicely dirty, lazy, and smelly. But it's what some of them in the streets of LA cause others to believe. They indeed are dirty, lazy, and smelly when you think of a fat hispanic with flappy hats on. What makes the exalted negative view on them? It's just the prejudice that everyone and everymen and women have.
On note, don't be offended. Because I've insulted almost every race that exists in this bigoted world.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2007-01-27 at 17:19:43
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Sorry, I haven't read most of this topic. I'm just gonna state my views.
I've been a bit hesitant to post in this topic, because I don't want to come off like a racist. But the very fact that I feel that hesitation is a sign that there's flaws in the way our so called "politically correct" society handles racism. The truth is, I will actually defend people (to some degree) who have intolerance towards different groups.
There's sort of a "witchhunt" going on for people who are intolerant towards another race or another sexual preference. Basically, its a very concious choice by society to discourage intolerant attitudes. If you have those views, then you are not encouraged to be honest about them. It's almost like people who finally go public about their intolerance have somehow done something so horrible and unforgivable that there's no turning back. Almost like they've somehow been possessed by some sort of demon. They will forever be labeled a racist (or a homophob, etc.).
But most people who feel intolerance towards certain groups usually don't feel that way for no reason. I believe racism is a byproduct of a very natural and essential survival skill. Throughout life, you need to have the ability to quickly assess situations and people to determine the best course of action as quickly as possible. It relies heavily on assumptions, because you will never have the time to investigate every single case. Having negative experiences in a pattern associated with certain people and things lead to a pattern in your behavior that will cause you to avoid and dislike those people/things. If you ask me, that's perfectly NORMAL.
But if someone is unfortunate enough to have a bunch of negative experiences with certain ethnic groups, and therefor develop negative assumptions about them, then they are heavily pressured to never reveal how they feel. They wouldn't want everyone to find out that they're THE THING!!!
Why can't we just be honest about how we think towards ethnic/sexual preference groups that we've developed a problem with? I'll lead by example: Personally, I have negative assumptions about blacks, hispanics, homosexuals, bisexuals, and drug users. There, I said it. I wasn't born with these, but consistent negative experiences with them have caused me to not want to get to know any new ones I meet, because I believe they will probably be like the ones who affected me in the past. And guess what... My assumptions usually aren't wrong.
Have I been infected by some sort of demon? No! Can I usually function without allowing these things to affect me on a noticable level? Absolutely. But god forbid I ever stand up in public and say that.
I have more to say, but its not coming to me ATM.
Also, 1000 posts!!! showoff.gif
'I've been a bit hesitant to post in this topic, because I don't want to come off like a racist. But the very fact that I feel that hesitation is a sign that there's flaws in the way our so called "politically correct" society handles racism. The truth is, I will actually defend people (to some degree) who have intolerance towards different groups.
There's sort of a "witchhunt" going on for people who are intolerant towards another race or another sexual preference. Basically, its a very concious choice by society to discourage intolerant attitudes. If you have those views, then you are not encouraged to be honest about them. It's almost like people who finally go public about their intolerance have somehow done something so horrible and unforgivable that there's no turning back. Almost like they've somehow been possessed by some sort of demon. They will forever be labeled a racist (or a homophob, etc.).
But most people who feel intolerance towards certain groups usually don't feel that way for no reason. I believe racism is a byproduct of a very natural and essential survival skill. Throughout life, you need to have the ability to quickly assess situations and people to determine the best course of action as quickly as possible. It relies heavily on assumptions, because you will never have the time to investigate every single case. Having negative experiences in a pattern associated with certain people and things lead to a pattern in your behavior that will cause you to avoid and dislike those people/things. If you ask me, that's perfectly NORMAL.
But if someone is unfortunate enough to have a bunch of negative experiences with certain ethnic groups, and therefor develop negative assumptions about them, then they are heavily pressured to never reveal how they feel. They wouldn't want everyone to find out that they're THE THING!!!
Why can't we just be honest about how we think towards ethnic/sexual preference groups that we've developed a problem with? I'll lead by example: Personally, I have negative assumptions about blacks, hispanics, homosexuals, bisexuals, and drug users. There, I said it. I wasn't born with these, but consistent negative experiences with them have caused me to not want to get to know any new ones I meet, because I believe they will probably be like the ones who affected me in the past. And guess what... My assumptions usually aren't wrong.
Have I been infected by some sort of demon? No! Can I usually function without allowing these things to affect me on a noticable level? Absolutely. But god forbid I ever stand up in public and say that.
I have more to say, but its not coming to me ATM.
Also, 1000 posts!!! showoff.gif
Actually I would consider those generalizations and not racism.
I have doubts as to whether I should respond to the rest of you or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2007-01-27 at 21:45:51
I don't think you can restrict the definition of racism ONLY to believing certain ethnic groups are inferior. Of course, you could say that's what I'm doing. I'm not extremist by any means.