Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-11-30 at 20:42:24
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-11-30 at 21:09:35
Yeah, he went insane there. However, I don't think it is only his actions that we should decry (which we most certainly should), but also the guy that responded to his racism with racism of his own. Honestly, I think it was a bit hypocritical of the guy to get angry at Richards for being racist then soon after call him cracker-***. I mean, honestly, if you're trying to make a point, do not engage in the activity you're decrying. I think that racism is generally always idiotic, ignorant, and pointless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-11-30 at 21:40:16
"I'm not racist, I hate all minorities EQUALLY!"
I do think that Richard's actions were uncalled for, but I also think just as much that those hecklers actions were uncalled for too. I have to agree with Cow 100% there, if you're outcrying against something, don't do that something in response. It is hypocritical and shows how low you need to stoop to get attention or make a point. If you want to go to a show to LISTEN to the comedian, by all means go, and if you don't like said comedian, don't go, but if you want to go to heckle the person, be it a comedian or anyone who has a spotlight on them, don't screw with them. It's their time, not yours.
I do think that Richard's actions were uncalled for, but I also think just as much that those hecklers actions were uncalled for too. I have to agree with Cow 100% there, if you're outcrying against something, don't do that something in response. It is hypocritical and shows how low you need to stoop to get attention or make a point. If you want to go to a show to LISTEN to the comedian, by all means go, and if you don't like said comedian, don't go, but if you want to go to heckle the person, be it a comedian or anyone who has a spotlight on them, don't screw with them. It's their time, not yours.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-12-01 at 15:25:30
Today was Rosa Parks Day. Goes to show about Racism against blacks and Civil rights back then.
December 1st, 1955
December 1st, 1955
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-12-01 at 15:27:37
Richard was an mean person. Definately uncalled for.
Kind of like SEN nowadays, should not give in to provocation and instead respond to those black people, who interrupted him, with coolness.
This is what happens when you cannot keep yourself cool against provocation (which doesn't necessarily mean flaming). I guess it's a good lesson for all of us to learn.
Kind of like SEN nowadays, should not give in to provocation and instead respond to those black people, who interrupted him, with coolness.
This is what happens when you cannot keep yourself cool against provocation (which doesn't necessarily mean flaming). I guess it's a good lesson for all of us to learn.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-01 at 18:59:50
Idiots (I mean the African-Americans). It's their fault in the first place. Here is someone whose job it is to entertain, and some idiots come in on his spotlight and interrupt him. Comedians work hard to build up the joke, they have to make everything perfect to build up to the punch-line. Heckling a comedian is like destroying a scientist's experiment. Not to mention the pressure of pleasing hundreds of people watching you in a live act. If anything were to go astray you wouldn't be able to take it back, you would naturally panic. Of course he would lose his cool, any human would, and even professionals are still humans who make mistakes. He's not actually racist, he was just desperately sputtering out insults and the hecklers happened to be African-American. It's purely the two African-American's faults.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ReCoN on 2006-12-01 at 20:32:29
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Idiots (I mean the African-Americans). It's their fault in the first place. Here is someone whose job it is to entertain, and some idiots come in on his spotlight and interrupt him. Comedians work hard to build up the joke, they have to make everything perfect to build up to the punch-line. Heckling a comedian is like destroying a scientist's experiment. Not to mention the pressure of pleasing hundreds of people watching you in a live act. If anything were to go astray you wouldn't be able to take it back, you would naturally panic. Of course he would lose his cool, any human would, and even professionals are still humans who make mistakes. He's not actually racist, he was just desperately sputtering out insults and the hecklers happened to be African-American. It's purely the two African-American's faults.
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That still doesnt give him the right to say the n word
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-01 at 20:54:39
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That still doesnt give him the right to say the n word
That's a great argument, straight to the point with nothing to back it up.
The "N" word isn't anything. It's just some word used to offend people. In this situation, I think he used it perfectly to offend to the maximum amount. I believe he had every right to offend people, and therefore every right to say the "N" word.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Zero.oO on 2006-12-01 at 21:49:28
Noone should be able to degrade another fellow person that they have never got to known just because of their appearence. Call a black person a cheap muther-&&&&&& is like calling all the Muslims bomb throwing maniacs. Its not true so thus you should not be able to talk that way. The people who were outraged and called hima cracker-@@@ where wrong too. It just helps the person who was angry in the first place. They should not have yelled at him they should have left and asked for there money back, and if they didnt get it back sue.
You didnt go there to get insulted, and he didnt go there to get inturrepted. There is so many answers to this unnessasary racism.
You didnt go there to get insulted, and he didnt go there to get inturrepted. There is so many answers to this unnessasary racism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-01 at 22:45:46
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Noone should be able to degrade another fellow person that they have never got to known just because of their appearence. Call a black person a cheap muther-&&&&&& is like calling all the Muslims bomb throwing maniacs. Its not true so thus you should not be able to talk that way.
You missed about half my post. He isn't actually racist, he even mentioned it after the incident. He was just fishing for insults and happened to find one that could be used against his oppressors who just happened to be African-American. That takes the point out of your whole post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ReCoN on 2006-12-01 at 23:42:57
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That's a great argument, straight to the point with nothing to back it up.
The "N" word isn't anything. It's just some word used to offend people. In this situation, I think he used it perfectly to offend to the maximum amount. I believe he had every right to offend people, and therefore every right to say the "N" word.
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The "N" word isn't anything. It's just some word used to offend people. In this situation, I think he used it perfectly to offend to the maximum amount. I believe he had every right to offend people, and therefore every right to say the "N" word.
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Can u tell me the definiton of the "N" word?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-12-02 at 00:49:10
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They should not have yelled at him they should have left and asked for there money back, and if they didnt get it back sue.
It's fine if they ask for their money back (and they did get it back), but I do not think the people at that presentation, if denied their money, should be rewarded money by suing either the Laugh Factory or Richards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2006-12-02 at 02:54:34
All of a sudden, a whole bunch of ytmnds about kramer being a racist started to pop up...
I never understood what that was about until I saw a news report on him...I as like, "Oh..."
I never understood what that was about until I saw a news report on him...I as like, "Oh..."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-12-02 at 03:10:59
I believe all that set him off was the phrase, "you're not funny". I'm not in favor of the audience who set him off because they enter clubs such as the Laugh Factory at their own peril. They insulted Richards who was already stressed by the pressure of having to make the audience laugh, and yet they weren't expecting any harsh responses. That's just naiveness, although I do believe that he took it too far and said more than what was understandable behavior.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-12-02 at 08:54:21
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That's a great argument, straight to the point with nothing to back it up.
The "N" word isn't anything. It's just some word used to offend people. In this situation, I think he used it perfectly to offend to the maximum amount. I believe he had every right to offend people, and therefore every right to say the "N" word.
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The "N" word isn't anything. It's just some word used to offend people. In this situation, I think he used it perfectly to offend to the maximum amount. I believe he had every right to offend people, and therefore every right to say the "N" word.
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To answer everyones definition this is what th N word really means.
A 17th century word used by white slave owners that they would call upon there black sl*ves when they weren't working or if they weren't working enough.
And the urban dictionary has this to say on the word.
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a term that is racist, as long as the speaker of it is not black. Forbidden on most all of television and other forms of public entertainment, at times referenced to as the "n-word". However, "cr*cker", a term racist against whites, is a completely acceptable term used in any context of any national broadcast...hmm...
White man: I would like to know why "cr*cker" and, ahem, "ni**er" are not equally forbidden *white man is put on trial for racist slander*
White man: I would like to know why "cr*cker" and, ahem, "ni**er" are not equally forbidden *white man is put on trial for racist slander*
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Slang description for sl*ves who were brought mostly from West Africa by the Dutch, English, and Portuguese from what was then a huge "Nigerian Basin" which makes up part of the countries of Nigeria and Niger today.
Load the Ni**er's on the ship, time for an auction in Kingston.
Load the Ni**er's on the ship, time for an auction in Kingston.
But that doesn't give Kramer the right to say that because just like how its offending to black people the same way how they said cr*cker in response becomes the both mens crime."Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you"
Critism in comedy has always be none but either they were rioting by themselves or the others were rioting at him.
Also in the video listen and in one part you hear krammer say this
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You guys have been talkin and talkin
So Krammer could of been the root of the sitution.
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50 years ago we'd have you upside down with a f*cking fork up your *ss
Eeeh, Kramer went to far with that one did he not?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-02 at 11:22:45
Everyone who did start to offend is going too far, both were offending eachother, but one thing you should learn if you're going to stand on a stage and sing/act/joke or what ever you're doing is to stay calm, that's something he definately didn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-02 at 11:40:30
whoah. He definately went to far. Think about it, if he was not racist, he wouldn't have insulted them and instead asked them to leave. However, he decided to insult them, showing how quickly they annoy him, he didn't even think twice about it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Zero.oO on 2006-12-02 at 13:54:55
How can someone who is not racist yell at someone like that? He was insulting them he wasnt making jokes. It would have been less severe if he was making jokes instead of just flaming at black people. He is probably just racist, and doesnt show it publicly because of his reputation. He was flaming at them like Hitler flames at Jews.
Its usually just degrading, but I have heard many people say it means ignorant.
The thing about being able to say cracker and not Ni**ger. There was a thing on Glenn Beck on this. You can say cracker, kyke, dago etc. on television, but if you say ni**ger its bleeped. Just because the black people have more people than the other minoritites doesnt mean you should be able to say any of the other words either.
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Can u tell me the definiton of the "N" word?
Its usually just degrading, but I have heard many people say it means ignorant.
The thing about being able to say cracker and not Ni**ger. There was a thing on Glenn Beck on this. You can say cracker, kyke, dago etc. on television, but if you say ni**ger its bleeped. Just because the black people have more people than the other minoritites doesnt mean you should be able to say any of the other words either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-12-02 at 14:22:12
How much longer do we have to post up definitions of the N word. Theres already 4 we don't need any more. (heh...it rhymes)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-12-02 at 14:32:47
I agree that he lost his cool, but I'm still up in the air about whether or not he was racist. After all, a good point was made that perhaps he was just trying to insult them in the worst way he could. It doesn't mean that he actually hates black people - perhaps he just wanted to hurt them badly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-02 at 17:10:26
It's one thing that they interrupted his show, but this is a guy that was up there to entertain peeps. If he wanted to insult them the worst way possible, why do it infront of others? The way I saw it is that he tried to get peeps to hate the blacks and join him at insulting them. He is definately racist 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-02 at 17:40:11
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"Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you"
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with that.
If you're enough of an idiot to bother going to a stand-up comedy act and making fun of the comedian, you deserve to be offended.
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How can someone who is not racist yell at someone like that? He was insulting them he wasnt making jokes. It would have been less severe if he was making jokes instead of just flaming at black people. He is probably just racist, and doesnt show it publicly because of his reputation. He was flaming at them like Hitler flames at Jews.
Racist:
a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.
There's a difference between becoming infuriated, and becoming racist.
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If he wanted to insult them the worst way possible, why do it infront of others? The way I saw it is that he tried to get peeps to hate the blacks and join him at insulting them. He is definately racist
It's not like you think with clarity and focus if you are furious.
Also, don't act like you would have kept your cool if you were him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-12-02 at 17:42:48
Is anyone else annoyed by how black people call each other "My african" but cry when white people call them a african?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-12-02 at 17:47:34
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If he wanted to insult them the worst way possible, why do it infront of others?
As opposed to finding out where they live and insulting them there?
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Is anyone else annoyed by how black people call each other "My african" but cry when white people call them a african?
What annoys me is when black people think they should be able to use racist terminology on white people but think white people shouldn't be able to use racist terminology on black people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-12-02 at 20:10:14
I've never heard of specific terms against whites.