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What exactly is Mp) doing for SEN these days? All I see is a bunch of planning, infighting, bickering, and retiring/leaving topics. It may be determined that hosting a forum for Mp) is no longer in our best interest, and as such this forum will terminated. This is an informative post to give you advance notice.

Mp had it hard before, but after the recent incidents it is getting extremely hard for them, i really do suggest before getting rid of their position on SEN you may consider giving them a new leadership, more SC investigation would be required, to see which members are the most active. Mp just lacks in organized, active leaders.

Ya Mp is in a hard time right now, yes it has been a while. But it would be a mistake getting rid of it I think.

Explain.

Because we are planning on getting the clan back together. And a couple people have put a lot of effort that would just be waisted. Geting rid of this would seal the deak for the clan and we would be done.

I discussed it with moose, i do think potentially losing a forum would be logical right now, but you should maybe get a new leader, build up a new portfolio of members and maps and then re apply. Worrying about SEN and SC at the same time isn't really what you need. You need to start fresh and get more organized. Best of wishes guys.

Give an ultimatum!! Everybody works hard under pressure!!

People also fail under pressure.

I dont

its not the clan that makes the drama. its a coincidence that people leave for no reason, there clan hoppers, attention horrors, pretty much those people dont do worth crap with the clan except cause more drama than it is.

this has to be what?...... the third time we had this problem, and now you seem to care.

anyone can make up a random starcraft clan, its just the members can be excellent or major mean persons. and this third time we had major mean persons.

This is a mistake. Mp) is a great clan, and if i wasnt so god damn busy trying to keep NGM from dying, and my other responsibilities in life, i swear id do what i could to help.

But its the school year. People are busy. Its the summer when clans really thrive. But coupled with the goings on from UBCS till now, and it being during the school year, i think Mp) has handeled such a hard situation better then most. It still has people trying to make things work. Thats why you see replys in this topic. Thats why they post here asking eachother about just what theyre going to do.

In short moose, id ask that you give them a little more time. Im very optimistic about what can happen with Mp), if they can just get back on their feet.

I always have time to go on SC, play games, map make through-out the whole year "you have no life shocko" sure, i have no life... point is?
I'm not saying you should be removed, but you guys really need to get it moving.

Maybe i shouldn't of quit

Ya, maybe no one should have

Quit planning and do something. Recruit, make maps, anything but just sitting around giving ideas while you lose members.

I never hardly agree with shocko but this time I will you do need to get more organized for a good purpose making starcraft maps enjoyable

I don't know about the rest of Mp, but I'm working on maps right now. I have to work slow though because I hardly get on now.

your clan is less organized then Mp, what are you talking about.

Seriously dude. wth are you saying. Plz use commas.

if you had read, you would see that there is clearly a comma there

I wasn't arguing with u

^That is what needs commas/periods.

Then why am i quoted o.o?

I was agreeing with you

What does putting the clan back together have to do with SEN, though? The major question here is whether or not Mp is suitable to have a SEN forum right now, while they're on the verge of death (unless there's some other meaning for "seal the deal for the clan and we would be done." Worry about your clan first, SEN second. If the life of Mp) is hanging on a thread and SEN is the only thing keeping that thread from snapping, then Mp) is in serious trouble.

You guys could always make your own forum, outside of SEN. And that's why Moose started this discussion. Everything that has happened to Mp recently has stayed in this forum and/or negatively effected SEN. Because it seems like you guys aren't trying to branch out and help the community at the moment (which is understandable when you're too preoccupied with rebuilding your clan), this forum seems like a waste of space plagued by resignations and ideas. All of that could be in your own forum elsewhere. Again, is it that necessary that Mp) is at SEN right now?


Well then that should tell you something. If a clan has major issues with choosing "major mean persons" and people constantly quitting, then that's an issue with the clan. You can't blame that fault on a simple recurring "coincidence."

so whats mooses decision?