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Staredit Network -> Clan Mp) -> New Plan
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-13 at 10:07:25
Here is what we will do: East has no members, or none log on. West has a lot of map makers, so we will recruit there for a whie. After we have ten members in west, then we move back to east, appoint a west co-, and recruit in east. Easy as that happy.gif

Added: This is me asking who will help me? I have already started with two recruits.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-12-13 at 15:25:04
You already know where I stand Blu
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-12-13 at 15:30:30
West isnt what it used to be. And by used to be i mean a long while ago. I wish you the best of luck, and if theres anything i can do to help, let me know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-13 at 15:36:32
QUOTE(Mp)Excalibur @ Dec 13 2006, 12:30 PM)
West isnt what it used to be. And by used to be i mean a long while ago. I wish you the best of luck, and if theres anything i can do to help, let me know.
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roll over and die? tongue.gif just playing.

I think you guys REALLY need to stick to one server... you just arn't stable enough for two servers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-12-13 at 17:04:32
QUOTE(Mp)Excalibur @ Dec 13 2006, 03:30 PM)
West isnt what it used to be. And by used to be i mean a long while ago. I wish you the best of luck, and if theres anything i can do to help, let me know.
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We already asked for your help, then you left so dont offer us any anymore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-13 at 19:49:35
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 13 2006, 02:36 PM)
roll over and die? tongue.gif just playing.

I think you guys REALLY need to stick to one server... you just arn't stable enough for two servers.
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That is why we are going to wait untill West has 10 members and appoint a West co-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-13 at 20:22:52
Forget West or forget East, but do one of the two soon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by S)T-Twitch6000 on 2006-12-13 at 23:00:40
I think since you are having luck with west stick with west plus you might have more fun over there I have been there once or twice and I have seen a few new map making clans there you would be a idol for mapmaking noobs smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-12-14 at 00:06:31
QUOTE(Mp)7-7 @ Dec 13 2006, 05:04 PM)
We already asked for your help, then you left so dont offer us any anymore.
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I recognize now being in Clan Mp is something i cant do 7-7. I meant if theres anything else you need help with to let me know. And im sorry about before, i just wasnt thinking clearly of where my prioritys were.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-28 at 16:15:53
Ooh La La! This plan is working very well! West seems to be active now. I'll soon be going back to east...maybe..I'm becoming attached to West pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-28 at 22:34:59
QUOTE(Mp)Blu @ Dec 28 2006, 01:15 PM)
Ooh La La! This plan is working very well! West seems to be active now. I'll soon be going back to east...maybe..I'm becoming attached to West  pinch.gif
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if you're the only really active West leader, I advise you stick with west untill you really are strong enough. [xM] is like 11 months old and is East only, Oo is like 3 years old i believe, and to my knowledge East only, (U) is quite old I think and I believe they operate in East only / mainly. Why do you Mp people think that you need to be on both servers?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by S)T-Twitch6000 on 2006-12-28 at 22:49:30
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 28 2006, 10:34 PM)
if you're the only really active West leader, I advise you stick with west untill you really are strong enough. [xM] is like 11 months old and is East only, Oo is like 3 years old i believe, and to my knowledge East only, (U) is quite old I think and I believe they operate in East only / mainly. Why do you Mp people think that you need to be on both servers?
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Really from what I have seen on west with mapmaking clans you should kill the east one and stick with west because your bots would stay active and you will not have to worry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-29 at 00:08:33
I wasn't saying East is better, I was saying that one server is better, and if you look at all the other clans on east, they are pretty much east only.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-12-29 at 01:35:23
were trying to make the impossible possible, were like beta testers. we try things the hard way not the easy way. to me, its no fun doing the easy way pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-12-29 at 06:00:28
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 28 2006, 10:08 PM)
I wasn't saying East is better, I was saying that one server is better, and if you look at all the other clans on east, they are pretty much east only.
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East is better sort of. Most europeans and asians (non map makers and map makers) usually come on the useast server because the time difference is 7 hours where is west is 9 hours. English is by far the most used language in starcraft (besides korean), therefore people will come to useast. On the other hand, west has fewer clans on it and brilliant map makers unrecognized by the short amount of map making clans. Its kind of a gamble really, i just want to see how this turns out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2006-12-29 at 09:28:42
If anything, I suggest that you just try and get as many active members as you can. About west or east being better, it really does not matter at this point. Quite frankly, at least from what I've observed from the last few times that I've checked in, the activity of Mp) has dropped to a staggering low. I don't see too many maps being made, or any projects that I know of too well from what I've asked around. I really hardly see anyone on from the few times I've checked in either. And really from any of those times, as scarce as it may seem that I do, I should see at least some activity. I do have to agree with shocko on point though. You really should stay on one server and become extremely strong on one of them. Even back when Mp) was thriving, it was extremely difficult to manage two servers or even try to migrate the entire clan from west to east. Even (U), which I certainly think has been extremely stable at almost all the times that I've been around, has stuck to one server and is still active and productive regardless of their activity on either server. West has a good amount of map makers, and I'm quite confident that they are up to par.

Stick to west, rebuild there. Get productive, you should be dishing out maps on a regular basis. Activity should also be normal, about 10ish people in the channel on regular times, indicative of people actually online or working/testing maps. Only consider managing or moving to another server when you have enough basis and foundation. And when I say consider, I mean consider. That really doesn't even mean that you should do it at all
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-29 at 10:03:12
Mini, being on multiple servers isn't an accomplishment, neither is lots of members. It is the quality of the maps you make that matters, and I don't see mant maps being produced, if you got stronger on one server you could have more maps coming in and regain your respect from many people, but that just isn't happening at the momment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-12-29 at 10:06:08
I havent been online much anymore due to the holidays and things in my life. I will be much more active later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-12-29 at 17:11:33
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 29 2006, 10:03 AM)
Mini, being on multiple servers isn't an accomplishment, neither is lots of members. It is the quality of the maps you make that matters, and I don't see mant maps being produced, if you got stronger on one server you could have more maps coming in and regain your respect from many people, but that just isn't happening at the momment.
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i know that part so much, some of us been trying to do that while the rest of the people in the clan "just" wanted activity in the channels. once they see no activity, they start giving up hope in the clan and they forget that map making clans are suppose to be the quality in the maps not just activity itself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-29 at 19:47:10
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Dec 29 2006, 02:11 PM)
i know that part so much, some of us been trying to do that while the rest of the people in the clan "just" wanted activity in the channels. once they see no activity, they start giving up hope in the clan and they forget that map making clans are suppose to be the quality in the maps not just activity itself.
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You don't just go for one or the other, you have to try and balance it relevant to which you have most of. If I lack people making maps I find out the problems or I encourage them, if I drop in members I will recruit people. Balance is the key. I'm not at home right now so I can't do much, but I have faith in neonz to keep it organized. You guys seem to just leave when you need to, but never know if somebody will be able to cover your abscence. Stick to one server, get reliable leaders, gather some mappers, start mapping, then slowly build up. Stop thinking that it is a 1 week process.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-12-30 at 10:24:16
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 13 2006, 04:36 PM)
I think you guys REALLY need to stick to one server... you just arn't stable enough for two servers.
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QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 29 2006, 11:03 AM)
Mini, being on multiple servers isn't an accomplishment, neither is lots of members. It is the quality of the maps you make that matters, and I don't see mant maps being produced, if you got stronger on one server you could have more maps coming in and regain your respect from many people, but that just isn't happening at the momment.
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QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 29 2006, 08:47 PM)
You don't just go for one or the other, you have to try and balance it relevant to which you have most of. If I lack people making maps I find out the problems or I encourage them, if I drop in members I will recruit people. Balance is the key. I'm not at home right now so I can't do much, but I have faith in neonz to keep it organized. You guys seem to just leave when you need to, but never know if somebody will be able to cover your abscence. Stick to one server, get reliable leaders, gather some mappers, start mapping, then slowly build up. Stop thinking that it is a 1 week process.
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Strangely enough, I agree with Shocko here. You guys are trying to find the quick fix. Simply put: there isn't one. You have to actually find some people who are willing to make quality products, and recruit them. Just make sure that your members are actually making maps. If you're not making maps, your "Map-Making Clan" ceases to exist.

And about servers, stick to one server. You can barely manage yourself with one, expanding to a second too soon will only make things worse. Don't try to work too fast. Slow down, gather yourselves, and make some maps. Isn't that what it's all about anyway?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-12-30 at 16:33:05
Why do people always say "strangely enough I agree with shocko" am I that bad of a person shifty.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-12-30 at 18:35:21
QUOTE(Shocko @ Dec 30 2006, 04:33 PM)
Why do people always say "strangely enough I agree with shocko" am I that bad of a person shifty.gif
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Yes. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.ZeALoT.oO on 2006-12-31 at 19:20:31
so you want to bring back all ur west members (you said wait till 10 or so) because there is none on east, and keep em there? Personally i dont think that would work well, if theres more map makers on west you midaswell move there.

but thats just the opinion of someone who hasnt been active on Starcraft for over a year
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-31 at 20:13:28
What ya do is go where you get the best results...and West was just that wink.gif
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