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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2007-01-26 at 16:17:33
Here is my rant on microsft:

over the past few weeks, i have been having a problem with my operating system as you probably know that my cpu runs high for some unknown reason.
i am sick and tired of being forced to wait days for emails to come back from microsoft in a response say "sorry we cannot help you", and further more i cannot recieve free support from them either, yes, i had to PAY for support (which i have you know i didnt pay them in any way, nor recieve support.), nor find any suitable solution to my cpu problem ANYWHERE ON THE NET. i sent them an email to re-install my os, they wouldnt give me another copy! they said go buy it!, further more, internet explorer is the worst browser ever made. whenever testing scripts, i groan to the though of having to load up internet explorer to test them. mainly because ie takes about 2-3 minutes to load up and start functioning. i can only be thankful that sen displays the get firefox link at the top right, which is the precise link i used to obtain firefox, and i've been loving it ever since. whats worse is they keep releasing software that request the latest possible system specs to run, even though my current system is more then capable of running it.

read more about other peoples storys, and dark secrets about microsoft at: http://www.microsuck.com/

i just hope my rant influences atleast 1 person to realise that microsoft sucks, and always will.

I will be attempting to install a linux kernal onto my computer, once that is done, i am uninstalling windows. never to handle another crapty os again.

if i am ever forced back to windows, i will be using a nulled version, hacked cracked and all that. i am sure to never let microsoft touch my money again.
this goes for their software too.

(mods plz dont warn me)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheatEnabled on 2007-01-26 at 16:27:18
Thanks for sharing all this info with us. We needed it. [/sarcasm]
Well, I have a Microsoft Windows, and I never had any trouble with it. Not a single bit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2007-01-26 at 16:47:36
I won't warn you, the only reason I keep Windows around is because I'm more of a gamer than a programmer. And I love me my photoshop.

What flavour of Linux are you going to use? *Syphon glances over at 27 Ubuntu cds laying around
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2007-01-26 at 18:01:59
Yeah! Well, actually I never had big-time Windows troubles.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-01-26 at 18:02:37
If you're going to Microsoft for tech support you're going to the wrong place, ~.~

I say you just crack Windows now, and hope that it does work, and use a Linux distro on the side. I think you're going to have trouble going directly from Windows to Linux right away... at least you will have a less functional OS than you want at the start.. Windows isn't that bad of an OS, maybe not as bug-free or professional as some would like... Microsoft though, is another story, I don't like them very much..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2007-01-26 at 18:17:38
I seriously doubt it takes you 2-3 minutes to boot up IE. I'm on a ten year old computer and I've never had to wait 2 minutes for it to boot up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2007-01-26 at 18:40:29
Yes, and other operating systems have a built-in "fix me" button that fixes any problems that ever come up.

Have you ever noticed that expedient and free tech support just doesn't exist?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by green_meklar on 2007-01-26 at 19:09:23
If it's any comfort, Pyro-Fire, I hate Microsoft pretty badly too. Granted, they did get better when they canned Windows 98 and made Windows XP, but even now their stuff is not at all safe, easy-to-use or bug-free. The problem is, by now Windows is pretty much a standard; everything else has been made to run on it. :\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2007-01-26 at 23:03:18
QUOTE(Syphon @ Jan 26 2007, 04:47 PM)
I won't warn you, the only reason I keep Windows around is because I'm more of a gamer than a programmer. And I love me my photoshop.

What flavour of Linux are you going to use? *Syphon glances over at 27 Ubuntu cds laying around
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Photoshop 7 and CS1 work fine in wine apparently.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2007-01-26 at 23:10:02
Pyro-Fire your problems have literally nothing to do with Windows. Windows 2000/XP are very stable operating systems. And you lie a lot.

Internet Explorer sucks though. Use Firefox/Opera/Anything else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2007-01-26 at 23:37:09
Hey... without Microsoft, there's no interweb that you have to complain about Microsoft.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2007-01-27 at 00:03:05
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Photoshop 7 and CS1 work fine in wine apparently.
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Yes, but I have CS2.

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Hey... without Microsoft, there's no interweb that you have to complain about Microsoft.
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Boy, linux runs the damn intarnetz.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2007-01-27 at 00:34:04
The internet originated as a U.S. research project. tongue.gif (ARPANet. (Advanced Research Projects Agency Network.))
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2007-01-27 at 00:58:51
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i sent them an email to re-install my os, they wouldnt give me another copy!

What were you e-malling them about exactly? If you want to active your OS(and you cant do it online) you call them, not e-mail them.

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whenever testing scripts, i groan to the though of having to load up internet explorer to test them. mainly because ie takes about 2-3 minutes to load up and start functioning.

You must have one bloated IE. Don't click on every "You have Virus" AD that you see. They add toolbars to IE. There all bullcrap.

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whats worse is they keep releasing software that request the latest possible system specs to run, even though my current system is more then capable of running

Got an example? Vista requires slightly higher specs than XP to run at the same speed and give the same look. Simply because Vista has a hell of a lot more to do in terms of security.


Xp is incredibly stable and pretty quick. I've used Fedora Core 4 and Ubuntu. All I can say is "meh, it's ok". I prefer Xp(or Vista), because I was raised on 95/98, it's stable, secure(Sp2/Vista), and runs everything I want so no switching back and forth. I honestly don't see what your fussing about. I play all my games, my music, my programming, etc.. all on Xp. No problems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2007-01-27 at 01:48:16
QUOTE(Doodle77(MM) @ Jan 26 2007, 11:03 PM)
Photoshop 7 and CS1 work fine in wine apparently.
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does starcraft run with wine?

also;;

microsoft adds stuff like extra toolbars and all that so you buy a computer upgrade to make ur computer run faster, even though its just their software.

and, i seriously doubt vista would require any better specs then xp because of secruity. many issues can already be fixed without too much of a hassle using duct tape (in a matter of speaking)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2007-01-27 at 03:21:02
Starcraft runs fine in wmware, according to yosh.

I hate microsoft as well... but I have never had any trouble with winxp. Except for one harddrive crash... and I don't know who to blame for that because my gf was on the computer, and she doesn't know too much.

Hmmmm... I would just reformat your crap and take out that extra network card / disable it in bios / whatever. Don't import your registry, etc etc.

Winxp is probably the only thing MS has I like. IE sucks the penis. Games are rather weak (Seven Kingdoms was alright, I guess).

Oh wait... DirectX. Someone tell me that's not the greatest contribution to the gaming world.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by green_meklar on 2007-01-27 at 10:47:59
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Windows 2000/XP are very stable operating systems.

They're certainly a lot better than Windows 98, but honestly Macintosh is still superior in terms of crashing and security and so on.
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I hate microsoft as well... but I have never had any trouble with winxp. Except for one harddrive crash... and I don't know who to blame for that because my gf was on the computer, and she doesn't know too much.

lol

I have had a few issues with Windows XP over the years. In fact, this computer I'm using is not altogether healthy. When I turn it on, it tends to stop in the middle of a black screen, and then the power button doesn't work so I have to unplug it and plug it in again, which is not good for its electronic parts. So I just leave it on all the time now, and only restart it when I absolutely need to in order to activate some kind of settings or updates. Also, for a week or two now it's been using about 200 megabytes of virtual memory, all the time, even though I don't have that many programs running. However, it hasn't impacted the computer's performance so I'm ignoring it for the time being.
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IE sucks the penis.

Sure as hell does.
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Games are rather weak

Age of Empires II was okay...although admittedly not as good as StarCraft. The Halo games were good too, but then of course, they were originally being designed for Macintosh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-01-27 at 11:03:35
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Oh wait... DirectX.  Someone tell me that's not the greatest contribution to the gaming world.
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It's not, really. I'm think DirectX isn't the instructions, but DirectX is how the instructions are sent. I'm not totally sure, though, you'd have to ask somebody more knowledgeable in this area.

Also, OpenGL games work fine, it's not like you need DirectX.

Windows 98 sucked, not until they released 98 SE till it was a good OS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2007-01-27 at 12:45:23
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microsoft adds stuff like extra toolbars and all that so you buy a computer upgrade to make ur computer run faster, even though its just their software

I don't see what your saying. I can install IE7 without any extra toolbars. I have no extra toolbars anywhere I don't want them. If you have extra toolbar's it's probably not from Microsoft but from some other company.

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It's not, really. I'm think DirectX isn't the instructions, but DirectX is how the instructions are sent. I'm not totally sure, though, you'd have to ask somebody more knowledgeable in this area.

Direct 3D and Open GL are API's that programmers use to interact with the graphic hardware interface. Blizzard and ID are basically the last companies that design Open GL games for the Pc(Blizzard however only uses Open GL for Mac). Blizzard can easily do it due to there Storm.dll setup. John Carmack(ID owner, insane engine programmer), after working with the Dx9 API(Doom 3 -> Xbox), has said it is his favorite API(something like that).

Now interacting with the hardware is incredibly complex. Both Open GL and Direct 3D create a much more simplified(still quite complex) API for the developer. They have taken two different routes on it. Open GL's route makes it better for things outside of games, such as modelling programs. Direct 3D however has been dominating the gaming market.

Once Microsoft hit Dx8, DirectX has been an awesome contribution to pc gaming.
Direct 3D is part of DirectX.

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Also, OpenGL games work fine, it's not like you need DirectX.

To play DirectX you either are going to need Wine or DirectX. Wine will perform with errors and a lot slower. There are very few PC Open GL games being created anymore. So yes you need DirectX if you want to play most Pc games.

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They're certainly a lot better than Windows 98, but honestly Macintosh is still superior in terms of crashing and security and so on.

I'm sorry, most crashes that happen in Xp are due to other developers problems. If mac had as many developers(including independent) creating programs as windows... then you'd probably see some piss poor programs and drivers that crash a lot of things all the time. Also throw in Mac doesn't have to take in millions of hardware configurations, it'd expect it to be more stable(it's like a console). You have to give Microsoft a pat on the back for how stable Xp for what it has to do.

About security? We wont know, no one makes viruses for Mac because it would be retarded, due to how small your target population is.



I just reinstalled XP last night.(On a different hard drive to split my XP installation and Files). Activating and everything went fine. No problems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-01-27 at 13:34:00
With Apple's new boot camp thing, games run better on a PC than a Mac with the exact same configuration (by anywhere from 5-10%). I don't know about other programs though, but I bet you would see similar results.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowFlare on 2007-01-27 at 15:10:40
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does starcraft run with wine?
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Yes, but you will have difficulty getting onto battle.net with it; it will most likely crash when you try. Also, MPQDraft and FireGraft are currently unusable under Wine (SCMLoader does work, however; because of some special coding in it for Wine/Linux).

QUOTE(green_meklar @ Jan 27 2007, 09:47 AM)
I have had a few issues with Windows XP over the years. In fact, this computer I'm using is not altogether healthy. When I turn it on, it tends to stop in the middle of a black screen, and then the power button doesn't work so I have to unplug it and plug it in again, which is not good for its electronic parts. So I just leave it on all the time now, and only restart it when I absolutely need to in order to activate some kind of settings or updates.
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Hmm, are you saying it just shuts down sometimes and you need to unplug it and plug it back in before the power button will work, or do you mean the power button just doesn't ever work at all?

Of course, if you are having either of those problems, it is a hardware problem, not the fault of Windows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FatalException on 2007-01-27 at 16:44:11
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<3 Windows 98... sad.gif But with the internet, my computer is old, too, it doesn't take three minutes to start up IE5. What kind of internet do you have? Some really old dial-up? Also, how old is your computer? It's necessary to get a new one every once-in-awhile to maintain functionality, if you didn't already know that. tongue.gif

But why isn't this in Misc.? Last I checked, Computers and Technical was for actual discussion of... Well, computers and technology, not rants.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-01-27 at 19:12:01
Technology doesn't last forever, but if you think about technological generations, their lifespans are increasing. After all, a Pentium III can still handle many tasks if you ask it to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by green_meklar on 2007-01-27 at 19:19:38
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About security? We wont know, no one makes viruses for Mac because it would be retarded, due to how small your target population is.

No, I think it's pretty much established by now that Macintosh is in fact innately more secure against malware than Windows is.
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a Pentium III can still handle many tasks if you ask it to.

Wikipedia tells me a Pentium 3 goes from 450 MHZ to 1400 MHZ...and the processor on this machine is an Intel Celeron at 1300 MHZ. sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2007-01-27 at 21:21:01
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a Pentium III can still handle many tasks if you ask it to.

Wikipedia tells me a Pentium 3 goes from 450 MHZ to 1400 MHZ...and the processor on this machine is an Intel Celeron at 1300 MHZ. sad.gif

MHZ/GHZ != Anything.

Celerons architecture is just poor. I mean POOR. The P4 architure was pretty poor... the celeron is about 5x poorer.

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No, I think it's pretty much established by now that Macintosh is in fact innately more secure against malware than Windows is.

Actually in the recent versions of Mac, there have been a lot of secruity updates. The fact is that we don't know the flaws of Mac OSX because theres not enough users.
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