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Why is this person wrong? Or is he actually right? I'm sure people here can think of plenty of reasons.

Not enough information is given to determine whether the statement is right or wrong because we don't know what "that system" is.

Im gonna take a guess and say its the legal system. If it actually is than yes that person is correct there is no need to fear it if you havent done anything to end up in jail

Perhaps that was the point?

And by done anything I suppose you mean be of middle eastern decent, and by jail you mean Guantanamo bay...

No I guess I was looking at the quote as it has to be about getting thrown in jail for like breaking into something ect. Thinking about it more like that yes the person still is right to fear it because who knows when it will happen to you if it does

Well first of all this is obviously a one-sided argument. It's blatantly obvious in the topic title and the first post that this is just a rant and not a neutral viewpoint at all. Secondly, that quote doesn't make any sense unless you specify what it's referring to. This is like me making a topic that says, "How is it wrong that the bread is stale?"
We don't know what specific bread is being referred to, and it sets us up to say that it's wrong. This isn't a discussion topic. It should be moved to null.

I should post less late at night

Maybe you should stop posting?

The legal system is known to have all sorts of flaws where innocent people are found guilty of make believe crimes, and guilty people walk free. Still, it's the best system to date (the best system would be no system where nobody commits crimes). Until you can suggest something better, I'd keep my mouth closed if I were you.

I remember this quote from somewhere.

It is false.

All systems are created by man.
Man has flaws in everything he does, we constantly diminish those flaws, but they will forever exist on some level.
Therefore every system created by man has flaws.

Since this was indeed talking about the legal system, the fact that humans actively take part in it causes more flaws then static systems.

Our rational for justice is based upon a summation of a group of random people. (the jury, or less) That rational is not a constant.

Thank G-d math and logic don't run our world.

You sound like a person who hates logic.

What do you think would better run "our" world?

*Edit* "Our" leaders could use some education in the math and logic department.

Except that they do?

This isn't addressing the question though. Even if the value for what is right and what is wrong isn't constant, that doesn't mean that they aren't there. They just change often. So therefore (I'm making assumptions about this very obscure topic that probably should have been moved to null) people have nothing to fear unless they do something wrong.

lol, nice.

Well, determine what's right and what's wrong is a matter of perspective really, if you do something that someone think is correct and right, there might be someone who don't think that's right and he might punish you because in his perspective what you did is wrong.

But this doesn't fit into the current situation though. If everyone thinks the same the quote would be correct, but we are cursed with something that's called opinions which makes this situation not possible.

Are you on drugs?! Do you know how many innocent people this "Justice System" puts into prisons each year? I know of three people that just got out of prison because they were put in there when they were INNOCENT of the crime thrown against them........

And if you watch the news you would have heard of that black male that was pardoned after 10+ years in prison for something he didn't even do...


Oh, the ignorence of society these days

mockdead is right...
Along with anyone that said wrong is based on perspective and those who said man = flawed so system = flawed. Like the woman who got a sedition charge because she wrote a letter that critized bush. I'm sure somewhere, fear was created in someone without any reason for them be in the wrong. Arabs, I'm sure, had a justified reason to be afraid of the government just for being arab after 9/11... without doing anything wrong.

I'm assuming, of course, "that system" = the justice system.

And we all know word of mouth is infallible.

The justice system is, and always has been flawed, but whether its fixable is doubtful. I'd say the best idea is to improve it. Of course the best way to improve it is to create an impartial justice system, but since that's utopian we have to think of something more realistic. We could pass the more serious cases through multiple trials as a standard, and make sure that individual trials aren't time consuming in and of themselves so that the overall efficiency isn't too depleted. Hell it even creates jobs in the justice department right.

You blatantly insulted the poster twice, and the second time you didn't even spell the insult out correctly (I'm even ignoring the fact that you were referring to the world, therefore insulting everyone in this topic). What is going on here?