Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 05:42:30
Okey, I dl SF cuz everyone says it's so great and all. Well, now I got it.
I want to make a little map, not TO complicated, but still fit the necessery things for a good map.
First when I didn't know what to do in SF, I just did the Terrain in it(I wanted squared), and tried to open the map in X-tra. But it didn't work... x-tra just crashed.
So I thought, oh well, lets try to figure SF out. And I did, atleast the triggers and sprites and terrain and all... But when I try to start my 30% done map, SC just crash!... Do I need to think about alot of things? before using a map, that has been done in SF?...
Well, I said to myself that I could do it in X-tra, if I just got the map to open, all I need from SF is the squared terrain.
Then I remmemberd I need 9 players(6 human, 2comp, 1 neutral)... So I'm back with SF.
Well... anyway, My map dosen't work and I can't find a good tutorial on SF, and all the things you need to think off when using int... etc... etc...
I'm stuck.
And oh, what is "Strings"? how to use em' ?....
Help?...
Thinking about to quite for good with the SF, just causing problems...
(sry, about my wierd grammar and such, hey I'm a Swedish guy)
Edit by Bolt_Head: Please don't use swear words in your topic title
I want to make a little map, not TO complicated, but still fit the necessery things for a good map.
First when I didn't know what to do in SF, I just did the Terrain in it(I wanted squared), and tried to open the map in X-tra. But it didn't work... x-tra just crashed.
So I thought, oh well, lets try to figure SF out. And I did, atleast the triggers and sprites and terrain and all... But when I try to start my 30% done map, SC just crash!... Do I need to think about alot of things? before using a map, that has been done in SF?...
Well, I said to myself that I could do it in X-tra, if I just got the map to open, all I need from SF is the squared terrain.
Then I remmemberd I need 9 players(6 human, 2comp, 1 neutral)... So I'm back with SF.
Well... anyway, My map dosen't work and I can't find a good tutorial on SF, and all the things you need to think off when using int... etc... etc...
I'm stuck.
And oh, what is "Strings"? how to use em' ?....
Help?...
Thinking about to quite for good with the SF, just causing problems...
(sry, about my wierd grammar and such, hey I'm a Swedish guy)
Edit by Bolt_Head: Please don't use swear words in your topic title
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2004-10-18 at 05:52:40
meh... slow down.. so what is your exact question?
Some sprites cause the game to crash, especially animation sprites. Watch out on using those.
I don't really know the funtion of player 9-11, but if u want player 12, there's a mode in Xtra for it.
For the triggers, there's one thread just in the assistance section about it or you can go thru the map making tricks and help archive (i learnt the sf triggers from there
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Strings are the message you display or use in your game. If u type 'Hi' in a display message, you have just made a string. 'Comments' also take up strings. You can only have 1024 strings in each map, so it is always good to consider to recycle and reuse some strings.
Hope that helps.
Some sprites cause the game to crash, especially animation sprites. Watch out on using those.
I don't really know the funtion of player 9-11, but if u want player 12, there's a mode in Xtra for it.
For the triggers, there's one thread just in the assistance section about it or you can go thru the map making tricks and help archive (i learnt the sf triggers from there
)Strings are the message you display or use in your game. If u type 'Hi' in a display message, you have just made a string. 'Comments' also take up strings. You can only have 1024 strings in each map, so it is always good to consider to recycle and reuse some strings.
Hope that helps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-18 at 05:53:32
Are you using Null Terrain? That messes SCXE up, though, probably not to crashing point.... illegal unit?
ADDITION: How do you recycle strings?
ADDITION: How do you recycle strings?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 05:57:11
QUOTE(Screwed @ Oct 18 2004, 09:52 AM)
For the triggers, there's one thread just in the assistance section about it or you can go thru the map making tricks and help archive (i learnt the sf triggers from there )
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I can't look at those, it just get me to the same page... :S
Well..
I'll do like this, I put the map here, don't think anyone would steal it (hehe)...and yo can see what error I made, and then maybe tell me...
I'm Über n00b, on SF... so basiclly I need a tutorial on it...do you know where I can get it?... if it exists...
Thank! BTW.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-18 at 06:00:53
Your map is an irregular size.... Make it in sf 64, 96, 128, or 256 by one of those numbers, any others will totally 
SCXE. That means you will need to re-do your terrain though 
SCXE. That means you will need to re-do your terrain though Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 06:03:47
Oh, Crap...
it is just that?, notin' more?...
Thx Alot...
it is just that?, notin' more?...
Thx Alot...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-18 at 06:05:16
What size did you set it as?
ADDITION: It wont let me see...
ADDITION: It wont let me see...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 06:06:36
QUOTE(Kow @ Oct 18 2004, 10:05 AM)
What size did you set it as?
ADDITION: It wont let me see...
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ADDITION: It wont let me see...
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32 x 32.... I think...
I made a new, in 64 x 64...
hope it'll work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-18 at 06:08:32
It will... just, SCXE will delete your start locations if they are stacked... no problem though, just recreate them...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 06:12:13
Thx Alot
Kow.
You really got me going!
(know that sounds wrong, did it on purpose)
Kow.
You really got me going!
(know that sounds wrong, did it on purpose)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-18 at 06:15:00
Well, well, well! 
No problem... i guess... i am just extremely bored!
SF is the ultimate editor (if ya know how to use it)
Also, you could make little terrain, but you'd have to do ALL of the triggering in SF.
ADDITION: Little as in like 32x32
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2004-10-18 at 06:23:57
Hmm, okey, another Prob
I need, as I said, 6humans, 2comps and 1neutral (okey I can fix it without the neutral but still I wanna learn it, not to serious map anyway).
I can do it in SF I know, but I porbobly gonna screw it up. So I think is safer not to do it in SF, Screwed said I could do it with X-tra, how? P12 mode, there is no p12 in that mode...
I need, as I said, 6humans, 2comps and 1neutral (okey I can fix it without the neutral but still I wanna learn it, not to serious map anyway).
I can do it in SF I know, but I porbobly gonna screw it up. So I think is safer not to do it in SF, Screwed said I could do it with X-tra, how? P12 mode, there is no p12 in that mode...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-10-18 at 11:28:54
Download X-Tra Editor 2.5/2.6 and open it up through the MAIN EDITOR, and it will have a style of Editor called P12, that will place them for you in Base Style mode for P12.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-10-18 at 13:31:43
After Coko's steps are followed,
Recall 2 afterwords open the map in Base mode (from SCXE, of course) and give the P12 units 2 the players u want'em 2 belong 2, with the properties windows.
Don't know if u're gonna use critters either but remember that in the Base mode of SCXE they'll belong 2 the player from wich u placed'em. They won't be neutral as in StarEdit... except if applied with the P12 (neutral) mode.
Recall 2 afterwords open the map in Base mode (from SCXE, of course) and give the P12 units 2 the players u want'em 2 belong 2, with the properties windows.
Don't know if u're gonna use critters either but remember that in the Base mode of SCXE they'll belong 2 the player from wich u placed'em. They won't be neutral as in StarEdit... except if applied with the P12 (neutral) mode.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2004-10-18 at 14:59:11
dont forget that you need to make a backup of any file you want to use in starforge. i learned that the hard way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-10-19 at 05:40:00
QUOTE(Kow on post #7)
ADDITION: How do you recycle strings?
I'm not sure but if u use ProEdit in it's features (compress and/or string) it will work...
But I'm no expert on those.
Edit reason: Fix quote.