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Staredit Network -> UMS Assistance -> Bound help plz
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 16:07:38
Ok, i am a pro map maker, and i will understand everything u post up. I usually make defences, but i wanna make a bound because..... bounds are cool; now, will someone jus tell me like the triggers to making one? like i got set switch 1 create units at location, destroy units w/e, but i dont know how to make it where u die if ur under an explosion.


----SOMETHING ELSE.... OMG THIS IS GAY AS HELL----
Ok, when i make the trigger create 1 unit at location, IT ALWAYS MAKES 2 INSTEAD OF 1, AND IF I SELECT 2 IT MAKES 4! WTF IS SCXE A RETARD OR SOMEHTING?

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2004-11-05 at 16:15:00
Okay, you seem to have a few problems, so I'll number them.

1) like i got set switch 1 create units at location, destroy units w/e, but i dont know how to make it where u die if ur under an explosion?

You need to make it kill units for all players or kill the players that could die, or the force of the players that could die as well as the computer player.

2) Ok, when i make the trigger create 1 unit at location, IT ALWAYS MAKES 2 INSTEAD OF 1, AND IF I SELECT 2 IT MAKES 4! WTF IS SCXE A RETARD OR SOMEHTING?

When you make a trigger for a force/All Players, it is the same thing as making that trigger for every player in that force, thus it will activate once for each player in the force.

PS. I seriously think you should change your mapping skill to average. Just a thought... I'm not dissing you or anything happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 16:38:13
PS. I seriously think you should change your mapping skill to average. Just a thought... I'm not dissing you or anything happy.gif

Dude i usaully dont make bounds...... i suck at bounds, this is first one i made, and jus since i cant make bounds right now, doesnt mean that it should effect my mapping skillz, because bounds are easiest to make is what everyone says and i make kick ass defenses.

Ok, i wasnt clear on what u said by the destroy units.... might help if u click the trigger button, and list the actions and conditions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2004-11-05 at 16:45:17

Trigger
Description:
Explosion Set 1
Players:
¤ Computer Player owning exploding units
Conditions:
¤ Conditions you want.
Actions:
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-1'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-1'
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-2'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-2'
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-3'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-3'
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-4'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-4'
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-5'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-5'
¤ Create 1 scourge at '1-6'
¤ Kill all of any unit for all players at location '1-6'


The reason I advise you to change your mapping skill to Average, with even more belief now than before, is because you need help on very simple triggers and you need a bit of explaining for these simple triggers. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 17:03:15
Thanks man, that was all i needed

i thouhgt it was something like this: always move location on unit current player bring 1 unit to location, kill unit
......
everyones a dumbass sometimes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-11-05 at 18:49:31
Yeah no offense, but that was a really simple question that any "Advanced" skilled map makers would understand. Create/Kill, that's all it is...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-05 at 19:16:10
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 5 2004, 03:49 PM)
Yeah no offense, but that was a really simple question that any "Advanced" skilled map makers would understand. Create/Kill, that's all it is...
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well, I have been making maps for more than 5 years now, and took me almost a year to think of how to make a bounds... (I think bomberman by GHOST_yoon started the bounds era ... )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-11-05 at 19:18:11
Actually KckKryptonite's Snow Bound started it.

I've noticed that most new map makers learn bounds first, so I just assume that everyone knows how to make them these days...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-05 at 19:40:18
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 5 2004, 04:18 PM)
Actually KckKryptonite's Snow Bound started it.

I've noticed that most new map makers learn bounds first, so I just assume that everyone knows how to make them these days...
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no, not me. I started off trying to make campaigns, RPGs, and defence/offencive maps. And, the first bound map I saw was bomberman by GHOST_yoon, shall I send it to you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KlowN. on 2004-11-05 at 20:02:51
my first thing was figuring out how to use sc editors lol but i tought myself most of the stuff i kno in like 5 days and had a censored.gif bound done in like 3 weeks... it wasnt that bad it was sort of good (not really im lying).. just like 10 lvls of boredom and stuff i stole from other bounds... the thing that took me longest to figure out how to do was brief and ovelap lol... so frikin ez now
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 20:36:54
----------ANOTHER QUESTION----------
ok, when i run into a groun unit and get killed, and get revived on my bound, the ground unit like appears and stays there.... u know what i mean? like u get in the way of where it was going to create, and it creates somewhere else where it doesnt die..... ahhhh how u do this
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-11-05 at 20:41:25
Don't do the create/kill at, create/kill at triggers during one challenge.
Just do create, create and create. And while that one challenge is oging have a trigger like Kill all Dark archons at Level 1/ Always. That way the units will always die.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 21:29:28
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM] @ Nov 5 2004, 05:41 PM)
Don't do the create/kill at, create/kill at triggers during one challenge.
Just do create, create and create. And while that one challenge is oging have a trigger like Kill all Dark archons at Level 1/ Always. That way the units will always die.
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........ we just went over this retard....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-05 at 21:39:37
Umm i don't think you should be calling people retards when they try to help you. Considering you are "advanced" and you don't know how to make bounds. And he taught you how to kill them all. If oyu read it you would understand since your advanced. He told you to kill all the units and a huge location at the bound between wait so you kill all the units.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-05 at 21:45:53
bounds are the easiest thing to make u d!c-k head

ok wait, so u do both? create a location around everything too?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-05 at 21:51:14
If they so easy and you're advanced shouldn't you know? Anyways you make a location wherever you want the units to die. and you make triggers that create 1 unit at that location and you kill all units at that location. Don't get what you mean by everything
Report, edit, etc...Posted by eXile5 on 2004-11-05 at 22:01:25
I agree with Kaboom. If you're advance, you shouldn't be asking basic bound questions. But I would suggest you find an unprotected bound and study from that. Not steal, study.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-11-06 at 00:18:42
Man you have a wonderful attitude, calling people names who help you. You aren't advanced at all, don't fltter yourself. How could you not know how to answer your questions by looking at another bound?

Wow the units create in a certain area then die...I wonder how they do that. Maybe it is CREATE then KILL. And hmm...I wonder how one would kill other units that don't die in the location. Maybe it is KILL ALL UNITS OWNED BY PLAYER.

And if he is the retard, then how come everyone but you understood what he said and how he anwered your stupid question for you?

QUOTE
bounds are the easiest thing to make u d!c-k head

Then stfu and make it yourself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimea on 2004-11-06 at 01:24:53
Bounds eh. Perhaps the most easiest maps to make on battle.net. The concept is very simple, but don't stop there, try to expand it to make it more interesting than a couple of explosions, a maze here and there, etc.., The best thing to do to learn from a bound is like the other guy said (I forgot his name) study an unprotected map. I can send you a sample bound that I made for some newbie a while back, if it's any help. PM me or w/e and hopefully I could have been of some help.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Thels on 2004-11-06 at 06:05:46
QUOTE(da shibsta @ Nov 5 2004, 05:07 PM)
Ok, when i make the trigger create 1 unit at location, IT ALWAYS MAKES 2 INSTEAD OF 1, AND IF I SELECT 2 IT MAKES 4! WTF IS SCXE A RETARD OR SOMEHTING?


Bound or no bound, this is not something an advanced starcraft mapmaker should ask about.

I'm not sure bounds are easy to make. Seems like long and tedious work to me. Seems too much work for me at least.

(Sounds kind of weird when my biggest map has 1175 triggers, but that kind of evolved, whereas a bound map only functions when it's complete...)

Btw, can anyone send me that Bomberman map? I really liked it, but I forgot to backup my download folder one time when I reinstalled windows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KlowN. on 2004-11-06 at 09:10:35
just make a location where the units can appear and say always kill all any unit for computer at location "no comp" preserve trigger
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-06 at 09:48:08
another question, and i dont really care what i guys think, neways, why wont my 4th stage work in my bound? i made it this:
Trigger
Description:
Switches
Players:
¤ Player 7
Conditions:
¤ Current player brings exactly 1 ling to clear switch 3
Actions:
¤ Clear switch 3
¤ Set Switch 4


thats it, and when i do that, and when i bring 1 ling to that location, it clear the switch 3, and my 3rd stage stops, but my 4th stage doesnt start.


o ya, and srry for callin u guys names, cus u really are helping me.... i jus dont like to be insulted

P.S. That trigger is actually for players 1-7, my bad
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2004-11-06 at 10:44:12
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o ya, and srry for callin u guys names, cus u really are helping me.... i jus dont like to be insulted


You are so close to recieving yet another warn level. No one insulted you that you didn't insult first. You should get a another warn level alone from bypassing the swear filter.
And if you were really "advanced" you wouldn't need specific triggers at all. You would just need general concepts and you could work your triggers from that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2004-11-06 at 10:55:07
It is best to use death counts but I doubt at your level you would be able to use them without a lot of explaining so...
Make sure when you start level 4, all your other levels have stopped first. Make sure there are no waits that interfere with your 4th level. And make sure your 'hyper triggers' if you have any are placed last.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by da shibsta on 2004-11-06 at 11:17:08
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Nov 6 2004, 07:55 AM)
It is best to use death counts but I doubt at your level you would be able to use them without a lot of explaining so...
Make sure when you start level 4, all your other levels have stopped first. Make sure there are no waits that interfere with your 4th level. And make sure your 'hyper triggers' if you have any are placed last.
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hey ty so much, it fixed it, it was jus the hypertriggers
ty for the insults! smile.gif
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