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Out of the 3 systems, Nintendo has the MOST experience in Online gaming... They were just too ahead of their time... Go and read and find out what happened.

http://n-sider.com/articleview.php?articleid=258

The good news? They are expanded online play with the DS.

My own quote from that article:

Duh. Single player gaming is practically dead. The last good single player game worth spending countless hours of my life into was probably Marrowind, although, I still need to try Gothic 2. Any other game dies off very, very fast... without multiplayer, a game is maybe a 5 day fling in your life.

If you can kinda agree with that, you'll realize that "Nintendo has the MOST experience in Online gaming... They were just too ahead of their time..." is so retarded. If they so had 'the most experience' than why does my xbox recieve a ethernet cable and my gamecube doesn't? Easily anwsered: There's no reason for it. Maybe gamecube would have stood a better chance if they would have actually released a mass multiplayer network with some real online games, but they didn't.

Online play in Nintendo DS is good news? Who cares. I for one have never bought a little piece of crap with poor resolution and a very small screen. Try to play Halo 2, Half life 2, or whatever game suits your fancy on such a screen. Yeah, pretty weak, isn't it.

Go Nintendo!

Although Sony and Microsoft are much better.

Where do I start...

1. Single Player is not "dead". I'll take the Xbox as an example. According to this article the Xbox has sold about 10 million units. This article is 2 years old so even more Xboxes would be sold, but it doesn't matter. This article says about 1 million users use xbox live. That means 90% or so of the Xbox users play... SINGLE PLAYER. Not everyone has the equipment to get an internet multiplayer game going.

2. If they have the most experience it does not necessarily mean they have had the most success. Look at Dreamcast. They tried an ambitious online strategy, but did they succeed? Hardly.

Nintendo HAD the idea of making an online campaign similar to Xbox live back in the 1980s, but the public was not ready for it then. Dreamcast's demise further led them to doubt online gaming success. The reason Xbox Live had a good chance of being a success is because of Microsofts experience with online campaigns and the fact that Bill Gates can back it up with millions of dollars.

Hey you have an Xbox, good for you. I'm not saying OMG NINTENDO PWNZ JOR XBOX. I'm saying that Nintendo did look at online gaming, but is waiting for the best time to unleash their plans. They did not ignore it, rather they want to perfect it. It's smarter to let someone else waste millions of dollars on a project with one small mistake and improve on that, instead of doing it yourself. It's common sense.

Online for DS? Whos cares? Maybe the rest of the forum? Maybe the already 4 million people that bought a DS and millions more waiting to buy one? It's nice how you express your disgust of handheld gaming. Do you hate it? Well that's good for you, but it doesn't mean that all of SEN hates handhelds. Yes handhelds are smaller and usually less powerful than their console brothers, but then again why do you buy a handheld... ahem, portability, the fact that you can be ANYWHERE and play a game, this is quite an advantage. Of course you could argue with me that this portability is limited, but I'm not saying it's perfect.

So mr. purity, my point in writing this was to say that Nintendo is not ignoring online gaming, it is waiting for the right time to make an online plan. I support Nintendo as they innovate things. Hell, they MADE rumbling controllers, analog sticks, and 4 controller ports in gaming systems. Nintendo does NOT get the credit they deserve. If you don't like handhelds, well that's your opinion. However, other people may be interested. I could argue how handhelds have more advantages than consoles, but that's not the point of this thread.

Anyway, hope this turns some heads that once dismissed Nintendo.

uh, last time i checked singleplayer is alive and healthy






heh, i know this is a late post

Them saying they have the most online experience is kind of contradicting the other statement about how playing games with friends is better than playing alone on a couch. So they have the most MULTIPLAYER experience; not online.

No, if you read the article, in Japan, they had a system similar to Xbox Live, except it was not as sophisticated with buddy lists, voice com, etc. It never grew too big since the public did not accept gaming as they do today.

ill agree that it is alive, but healthy is stretching it, try quasi-healthy, multiplayer is uber-pwning the single player world, why play with yourself when you can play with others? oops...i mean BY yourself....

Ah... but really, do you play a single player game for months and months? Would Counterstrike, Halo 2, Half life, Diablo 2, etc been successful if they were single player? Single player games are barely worth buying because game ends in 40 hours, sometimes, not even. If you still get 40 hours out of a single player nowadays, that's impressive... More impressive if you're not completely bored by the end of it.
There are some exceptions, sure, but none the less.


They didn't need some massive online network. If they would have had some type of simple system where I could easily played super smash brothers with people outside of my house, it would have pwned. I'm sure not too much thought would have had to been put in it.


Yeah... because people like me can play a handheld while driving to work.


Sure seems like it. Why'd they even bother releasing game cube... all the good games it has are ones already on N64.

4 controller ports isn't innovate...
Analog sticks, I'm sure would have came along easily.
Rumble controllers perhaps.


I haven't completely dismissed nintendo yet. Gamecube was the first system I bought... and now it only gets played when thee girl wants to play a game of mario kart with me. It's just like... wtf were they thinking? Windwalker? Mario sunshine? Luigi's Mansion? Please... They have their own final fantasy game... but ick, that was just sickening.

Where the **** is Perfect Dark 0? Wouldn't matter anyways, it'll be boring to play by myself.

Nintendo still isn't that bad. Sure alot of games are childish, but theres still others. Metroid Prime totally pwnz, and MP2 is even better. Plus, so many people just get gamecube simply for SSBM :-/

WindWaker*

I like my compact little fun-in-the-box! I never really play it... but then again I never play much console games period... People just need to unleash more Gamecube compatible online games... Like for the next SSMB, im hoping that they will make it online... or maybe the next zelda have online co -op separate missions... or the same one... and minigames! Idk... im just rambling on now... =\

I dunno... if there is a next ssbm remake, it'll probably suck. Battle mode for mario kart gc is totally lame... the levels were so awesome on N64 and on game cube, they are just totally boring...
So if ssbm is in it's 3rd remake... yeah, it'll probably be lame even if there is online play.

Or the ones they stole from playstation gamers...Resident Evil 1, Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes. THOSE BASTARDS. I want those games on my ps2 =/.

Another lame thing to point out is how you have to have GBAs to play some of their games multiplayer. I know of one off hand is that Final Fantasy game. Looks awesome, but the GBA thing is so lame. I think that everygame that comes out now should have a multiplayer aspect to it. Like the recent Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater. Wouldn't it be awesome to co-op the game? Or even go head to head with your buddy in a huge ass jungle. Being all stealthy trying to find your opponenet like the boss battle with The End. I guess some games wouldn't work multiplayer like Final Fantasys. But iono, maybe they could work something out to where you could both control aspects of the party during boss battles or even duel each other...

Yeah... I think you can control moogle with the gba in final fantasy. Why can't they just allow a regular controller to control it? It's just so noobish of them. And! In windwaker, tingle with gba can unlock secrets and stuff. So you want to lock out parts of the game just because I don't have anyone with a gba to play multiplayer with? And really, in all seriousness, who would opt to be the one to control tingle? Why wouldn't any normal person want to play link? Instead of spending so much time fooling around like that, they could have just made the game better. Has anyone played windwaker? Omg... the sea traveling was just stupid. I set the boat on course and walked away for 5 minutes at a time just so I wouldn't get so damn bored looking at the endless waves. I think I spent more time watching blue pixels then actually playing.

Ha! Metriod Prime... I don't even know how to stood for the stupid aimming system and stupid enemies. I got bored of that a lot faster than I got bored of windwaker.

Does the game cube NOT have an expansion port for online gaming? Why the hell is it just sitting there. I KNOW they were talking about putting it into play. WTF.

Edit: Oh yeah... forgot to mention, the last thing I heard nintendo say is that they were getting out of the console buisness and are just going to make games. It wasn't a definite but I wouldn't be surprised. They did really f up on the game cube.

Nintendo did really mess up with the Gamecube.. I haven't played my gamecube in close to a year.. I played my Xbox last night.

The only reason X-Box and Playstation are on shelves are because their companies sell other stuff like DVD's, Computers, T.V.'s... if they only sold games, they would be gone the first week they came out.. while nintendo stays a 100% gaming company and stayed alive for like 25-30 years and going. GO NINTENDO

Hmm did they F-up? They have people setting in a room that get payed thousands that know what is good and not good for the company. Online gaming is costing Microsoft and Sony a pretty penny right now but they make lots of pretty pennys while nintendo don't have other products to fall back on so they can't afford online gaming as of current. Anyway they are staying in the console business and what they said is that if Nintendo ever stops making consoles then it will stop making games too. Nintendo is the only company of the 3 console makers that develop and market there own games instead of 2nd party companys developing them for them. Come E3 this May all of the 3 new consoles will be introduced and I am sure Nintendo will introduce its plan for online gaming for its new system then too. As for games Nintendo has some the best party games. As for single player failing now days its b.c not as many game makers care about SP anymore they care about MP. Wind Waker was a test and it was still a great game kinda short but great. They are now moving on to realistic graphics and I expect to see a Title name for the new Zelda game at E3 this May too. In all the 3 consoles are great but each with its flaws. PS2 for RPG games, Xbox for online console gaming with Halo 2, and GameCube for party games like Mario Kart or Mario Party .

Nintendo has the best handhelds around! i got a DS for christmas and it totally ROCKS!!!

[move]Nintendo is the very best! no doubt [/move]

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the ds can be expanded in so many ways. some ideas i have are:

• digital camera
• mp3 player
• printer (goes with camera and word processor)
• word processor
• the list goes on and on...

lets think of more!