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I was just wondering if the pylonless buildings applied to all buildings like cannons or forges. I know it works for gateways though. I've never really actually tried it but hell it was in bolt's map making tricks in the Clan (U) forum so it probably works.

I think it does. Why don't you just test it? It's not too hard.

"it was in bolt's map making tricks in the Clan (U) forum tongue.gif so it probably works" if you think it probably works then it probably works. Besides they wont lie about it...

Bah! Fine I'll try, at least I got an opinion before testing

I've tested it on all Protoss Buildings and it works perfectly.

I was thinking of making a pylonless map, but then I thought "I cant plae buildings without pylons! " So, another failed idea.
But, you could make an arena where you get a probe and if you build a nexus you get a gateway and you build a pylon to get a cannon. And you could put a switch at the top so that it makes stargates instead of gateways!
Man, this site makes me think.

You can place buildings without pylons. It's just like placing sunkens without creep as shown in this map

I mean building them in game. (didnt check map, just assumed by what you said) It just wont let you place them without them being on a pylons blue area, it is red. Just like you cant build it without enough money.

I had a similar issue for a map i was working on, which was based on team battle, with a collector and a fighter some time ago, and just had the Plyon for Cannons as you stated, and off the map a place to build a single protoss building, and that represented the Nexus when completed, and could be changed.

I never had problems with pylon-less buildings...

volcave99 stop spamming useless stuff, ive read your like last 8 posts and their all spam. anyways...

what he means is that hes trying to do a map where you build a building and then a trigger enables it so it doesnt require a pylon. the problem is he cant build it without a pylon.

Also you have to be continually re-Enabling the building or it will turn off over time. So you'd need some way to distinguish between buildings if the player had multiple buildinsg you wanted Enabled.

It wont work for me... this is my trigger:

Conditions:

Trigger

Conditions:

¤ Bring(P9, AtLeast, 1, Photon Cannon, Disable Cannon);

Actions:

¤ GiveUnits(1, Photon Cannon, P9, Disable Cannon, P1);

¤ SetDoodadState(Enable, Photon Cannon, P1, Disable Cannon);

¤ MoveLocation(Disable Cannon, Photon Cannon, P9, Anywhere);

¤ PreserveTrigger();

¤ Comment("Center, disable");

Where "Disable Cannon" is the location centered on each cannon.

I have them in a line and it goes down, giving them to the player, but it does not make it able to attack without the pylon =\

If you have preplaced cannons and you enable them even when they'er not by plons at first, will it work? My computer is being screwy so I can't test it.

Kow, I think you have to take out disable. That cloaks them, but they can't attack. I never figured how they got cloaked cannons to attack. I guess they are enabled, disabled, enabled or something.

I just want them to attack, i dont care about cloaking!

They are owned by Player 9?

That will work slowly, because it'll only do one at a time, i'd advise repeating the trigger itself a few times. Even to the amount of Cannons you have.

I have it... I'm just gonna do a little intro while it converts.

So what's wrong with my trigger?

I advise that you make a location on every building you want to be "Pylonless" and preserve trigger over it.

We have tutorials for everything!
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?act=tuto...ess%20Buildings

wouldnt that be a waste of locations then if he had a lot of buildings? just make the buildings owned by a computer then have a trigger(assuming the comp only has protoss buildings) that will detect if the comp has a protoss buildings then center a location on the building, enable it, then give it to a player. then the location will cycle around until there are no more protoss buildings owned by the computer.

The only problem with that is it makes it unselectable. Otherwise that is the best method to save locations

First off he wasn't talking abotu disabling his cannons, that was just the name of the location.

Second, you have to be constantly re-enabling it like I said or it will turn off right away. So it is NOT A WASTE OF LOCATIONS because you CAN'T EVEN DO IT WITH ONE!

WHY DON'T YOU ERS LISTEN TO ME DAMNIT! AND OTHERS! READ EVERYONES POSTS CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU SAY STUPID THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED!!!

Im still confused why you havent been banned or something... status. Thats why. You have status. So all of a sudden, you are more important and have more leniancy with the moderators, so you go flame away. If anyone else does the same thing, we get warned/banned!

I think I made a VERY valid point. This is a SERIOUS problem. People flood these forums with posts that are exactly the same as the person's above them. Or worse, they don't read any of the posts and then post false information that contradicts other posts. People should read the damn posts and then there wouldn't be a problem.

EDIT FOR THE EDIT BELOW: Kow my original assault wasn't even directed at you, it was directed at urmom and Zerg Playing Dead. In fact, my post defended you AGAINST their idiocy. This next EDIT has no basis in fact but I'm pissed at you for being all "WTF?!" so I'm leaving it here anyway, even though I really don't remember whether you make stupid posts or not.

EDIT: Obviously you would be ticked Kow, you are a prime violated. You don't read people's posts and then you post STUPID things. You are an idiot, I point it out, and you yell at me. Go to hell.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Moose, Coko, and Isolated yell at me a lot.

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Bolt responds with sarcasm.

Sala does have a valid point... he's just a bit... harsh about it.
On the top of the assistance forum, there's some old cryptic rules from yoshi that still apply:

To those giving help:
- Read posts carefully and understand them before you post. Otherwise, you're no help to anyone and should get out of the Assistance forum.

Really. If you aren't going to be of help, just get out of this forum. I always hated it when I was asking for help and stupid idiots would reply with stupid nonesense... or replied with the exact same thing as other people. It was a waste of my time to try and sort good help from bad help...

~kow: Where "Disable Cannon" is the location centered on each cannon.
~zerg playing dead: Kow, I think you have to take out disable.

I mean, come on now...
That's the sala's flaming...

I've got 121 cities on my map, all with locations over them without Hyper Triggers and all Protoss Gateways, and i can always use them.