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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-12-30 at 23:11:02
Post nominations for Uber mappers here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-12-31 at 01:25:13
I was thinking of lowering my level. What do you all think?

ADDITION:

QUOTE(ME)
I think the "Uber" Rank should be renamed to Advanced+ that way it doesn't stand out as much and doesn't sound as impressive. And infact What im proposing isn't exactly a above advanced rank like the "Uber" has seem to become but instead it is more of proven advanced members. We could get a small staff of advanced members to basicly cast votes towards specific members weathor or not they actually advanced or not. And once they have like 3 of 5 votes they get Advanced+

Its from here http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...ndpost&p=117108
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-12-31 at 09:27:03
I don't think having a separate staff for setting Advanced+ would be logical. I mean they would work for like 2 days setting all the really good people at advanced+. But then waht would they do? Sit around and do nothing because no one else is good enough to get the rank therefore they won't be very usefull. A couple of people migth release a very good map and they might be taken into consideration but that doesn't happen too often.

If there are people which vote on the Advanced+ rank it should be us in this forum since the job really doesn't take time at all.

I nominate qPirateKing
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-12-31 at 23:26:37
I would nominate Clokr_ as uber. He's a nice friend of mine and also a good map maker. I think he should be uber.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-01 at 01:17:11
Don't count that! I bet he knows him personally!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-01-04 at 07:21:25
So what exactly are we going to do with the nominations?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-01-04 at 15:17:13
Discuss and give input. If its positive enough, they get the Über.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-06 at 10:04:52
Mp)3
As you all know Mp)3 is the maker of the hit RPG series Everacha. Most of you have played it and know how advanced his triggers are. yesterday I meet him and since I had to leave soon I asked him to PM me why he should be Uber.

QUOTE(Mp)3)
Funny how we just interacted in my Thread. Anyways, I'll be giving the unprotected map as some proof. Qualifications - I'll do a bio.

Started Playing Startcraft near the brink of 2000. First started map making near the beginning of my career as a Starcraft player. I went under the apprenticeship and befriended the map maker Cream-E, a respected map maker of the time and renown creator of one of the most popular bounds when bounds weren't so notorious: The Cream Obstacles. Once Realms began, I stuck to US West, and went around with Cream-E side by side creating maps. Back then, I was ={PW}=Alta.Main, when illies weren't restricted. Finally, I joined my first Battle.net Clan, Clan [K] or Known, the very first one on US West. I was invited by Cream-E himself when he was accepted later and I created very few maps then as Alta[K]Main. Near the end of the life of Clan [K], I had reached the Elite Class of the clan, the only map making rank under the Leaders and Co-Leaders. For your information, Clan [K]nown is unanimously known on West back then as sovereign in the Realm of West, whereas (U) stayed on the East Realm and still pertains it's reputation as the elite. Soon after the death of [K], the old leaders and elite members regrouped and created the Clan Mp), the largest block of my SC status. I was chosen by Mp)Akima, or back then in [K], Terayon_Vivi[K]; and Mp)Pentium/Troop or also back in [K], Leader[K]. I was chosen as the second ever member, chosen before only by the leaders themselves and another [K] comrade who went be the name of E-Race. Unfortunately, Cream-E, my long friend and mentor, moved to East and joined (U), but eventually retired from map making altogether. I was quickly back in a high status in a Clan, and as a substitute of [K] as the strongest of West. I say this without regret, that I have been in Mp) until recently since I retired from map making, if only for a while. And since that first day I joined 3 years ago, we haven't died and I am still loyal. Hopefully most have heard of Clan Mp) on the West Realm; both good and bad views. I say truthfully and with honor that when something we have done has been done in vain, or indignity, we do it for a greater cause; even should the price be that our reputation is shattered. I am most attached to the Clan. Even when (U) migrated to the West and shattered our unity, I will not tolerate that we've become notorious for how far we've fallen since. After the 3 years I have been in the Clan, I became a leader side-by-side with a my new mentor, Terayon_Vivi[K]/Mp)Akima and Founder and ever-leader of Mp). Then that's when I hit my sovereignce. By then, I have finished my year long project of Part 1, Everarcha RPG, if not the greatest pride of my completed works. Everarcha RPG was a nine-month working progress. It met many people's idea of a good SCRPG. I understand that to many people, it has become overrated. I understand that. Even I think so sometimes. I never intended Everarcha to be such a large hit. That's when I started to rise within the Map Making Community. Here is some praise I have recieved:


Comments by: Pinecone
The first one is by far the greatest Rpg, with a new clean interface and beautiful terrain and original bosses. l noticed how the Marine's damage has been reduced to match the speed of the stim, but it still manages to be the overly powerful unit, with the others running in his dust. Both maps were laggy and the 2nd map took some real thinking to take down the bosses. l was lucky to have 3 others stick with the heavy download, so 4 people had to work together.

QUOTE(WoA-Felagund @ May 26 2004, 01:45 AM)
This game will rock the foundations of the Battle.net Community...

I'm guessing that this little project could take all summer, but here is a list of the things I will include.

So many times have l heard this lie, only 1 map maker has been able to achive what they have said, and sucessfully finished completely. You on the other hand, have been gloating, bloating, and mostly boasting about your map skills yet you have nothing to show for what you say you are. Not after asking questions that an advanced map maker would know, a mod [Or you] finally changed your map skill to average. The person sucsessful of his map is Mp)3, and his map is so high in quality, that it took him almost a whole year to complete. If you expect to complete a map in summer, then l dont think your 'little project' will 'rock the foundations' if you know what it means.

Edit: Map was Everarcha Rpg, so big, it cannot be attached, Email me for it.

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Comment by: cE.Paladin
Sick RPG and the Sequel is great too. Im looking forward to the others.

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Comment by: Commanda_Panda
This is not like any other Rpg, many bosses and each boss drops a unique item that really helps. 5 portals to different worlds and when you die you lose 1 of your phoenix tears, which are required to live.

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Comment by: Vindexus
I played the first Everarcha RPG and loved it. The bosses were great, that damn tornado thing pissed me off. The only thing I didnt like was the last boss, with the moving pylons. I was playing with someone else and he had to buy a ronin, kill on pylon, then place his ronin in one of the pylon spawns to stop it from moving about, then I killed the pylons with my Renegade while he waited with his ghost to shoot the boss during the .5 second delay where he was not invincible. I had to kill those pylons like 8 times. I wasn't sure if it was a bug or not.

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Comment by: Johnznothere78
I played one of 'em and IT'S AWESOME! I played the first one, quit (gave up too hard) after the forest boss lol... and, I played the battle arena and me and my friend died on the corsair part, but anyway, YOU'RE THE MASTER! I AM NOT WORTHY! I AM NOT WORTHY!
Edit: I AM NOT WORTHY! I AM NOT WORTHY!
(I laughed at that one)

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Comment by: Stardog
Overall, very excellent work Mp)3. Probably one of the best RPGs I've played yet. Though some parts annoyed me, such as the Tornado (Both 1 and 1-2). I LOVED the cinematics in 1-2, they were very VERY good. Keep up the good work, can't wait to see the next one!

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Coomment by: Jet_Blast54
Wow, this seems the perfect time to do two things, one, Beg to join clan mp like I have been doing for about a month or so b4 this. And 2 dl the map... I never knew u made an rpg three.... all I ever see the ppl in mp play is ure mono d, which is riggalicious. XD



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Comments by: VoidArchon(MC) [Really really liked em]
Both or all 3? tongue.gif they are all the best, but i think Legacy of Haean is alil better, The Avarian Chronicles might be better then Legacy of Haean, but i think it will be way better, only time can tell, try all Everarcha RPG Saga maps and Legacy of Haean!

Mp)3 i'll play it with you! and i loved Everarcha Rpg 1 - 1 and Everarcha Rpg 1 - 2 was pretty good the bosses were awsome! w00t.gif

If Everarcha Rpg 1 - 2 is to short try beating it with 2 Players wink.gif
Everarcha Rpg 1 is not that long, i have a replay of my and Pr05s beating it,
Playing non-stop so it wasn't that long, and yea, i hope that bosses in Avarian Chronicles will be as good as in Everarcha Rpg 1 - 1 or 1 - 2 cause those were pretty awsome if i do say so myself wink.gif I just hope the upcoming bosses have more to them cool1.gif

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Comment by: Moogle
Hope boss fights are good ^_^ i liked some of ones in Everarcha 1 and 1-2 was fun fun fun. Shame 1-2 was so short. You still doing that Box lock battling system i see i liked it. Just got bit confused in it and yes i remember you said was no sitchs.

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Comment by: ??? Admission from Blizzforum's BlizzSCUMs
MP)3 -

Overall Rating - 9.6/10

Comments - Wonderful! Really short and precise! I knew what I was looking at.
Organization - Again, very good! I knew where to look for things.
Efficiency - Each trigger had a definate purpose, there were no unneeded triggers.
Skill level - This kid has most mappers beat here. He knows exactly what hes doing, and exactly how to accomplish it.

I say he's in! Ii I need approval from Drakain, then he has my abosolute approval!
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Other High Praise
Comment by: Kryok/Phatdiddy
C ya, I didn't know you too well, but still, it was good to have met you. You were one of the best, no question there. Sad to see you go, just like a whole bunch of people.

Comment by: Darkfury22
darn no!!! dont go! u are my favorite map maker through the works of everarcha!!!! after so long......... wont u jes play from time to time and finish everarcha!

Comment by: MrPain7000
Well, there really doesn't seem much to SC mapmaking these days. We broke boundaries, we invented our our styles, we saw the community grow, and what goes up, must go down. I don't expect this to be the final goodbye from a well-respected SC mapmaker.

Comment by: Cream-E (AFTER 6 YEARS!!!)
MP!!!

lol hey dude. You were wrong! I am reading this
I'm sorry how late i am. lol
Hey man I don't know about this though. I quit starcraft and went back to it many times. Creating maps is just so much fun!
I hope you don't quit. You were an excellent map maker.

What do you plan on doing now if i may ask? I'm bored and I need ideas.
All I do are:
A PC Game called Red Alert 2,
Halo 2 (xbox live),
and Make Flash Cartoons. (pretty fun).

I g2g. Im at school.
TTyl!,

Cream-E

btw. my clan sb name was sB)Cream-E
You were close though! hehe

Comment by: (U)Bolt_Head

Originally Posted by Mp)3
(U)Bolt_Head
I always and still do admire you. We didn't know each other, barely even seen each other, but still, I admire you. To me, you are a god. My inspiration came from you, even some great ideas. I may not know you well, barely even see you, but each and every second I am in your presence I am honored.

Thanks a lot, its really nice to have such a high complement from such a respected mapmaker. I’m glad to have been such an impact on the StarCraft Mapping community, not only in my own eyes but the eyes of many others, even those who never met me. Maybe if it was 4 different years we could of known each other better.


If you need more just tell me. 


That the PM Mp)3 sent me. You all pretty much know that he is one of the Top 5 mapmakers in the world and he is my personal 2nd best. If someone is to get Uber in this thread Mp)3 should be the first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-01-06 at 14:26:07
maybe i should get around and actualy play some of these maps lol.

PS beer your embedded quotes were removed by the script censored.gif .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-06 at 14:58:46
Sorry to ask but what is embedded? English not ym first language as you know.

That PM he sent me contains no quotes whatsoever, it's just the way you see it, one big text which I quoted.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-01-06 at 20:26:43
embedded:

Verb
Inflected forms: em·bed·ded, em·bed·ding, em·beds
Verb
tr. 1. To fix firmly in a surrounding mass: embed a post in concrete; fossils embedded in shale. 2. To enclose snugly or firmly. 3. To cause to be an integral part of a surrounding whole: "a minor accuracy embedded in a larger untruth" (Ian Jack). 4. Biology To enclose (a specimen) in a supporting material before sectioning for microscopic examination.
Verb
intr. To become embedded: The harpoon struck but did not embed.

Other forms
em·bed'ment n.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-06 at 21:09:47
Thanks Moose.
What about Mp)3 being Uber?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-01-07 at 08:34:12
There is no Uber Programmer skillz?

What about Clokr_????
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-01-08 at 05:26:48
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM)
,Jan 6 2005, 01:58 PM]English not ym first language as you know.
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Well now i do. lol

The only reason i bring it up is towards the end when he is talking about me. I found it funny because most everything is quotes other people said about himself, "praise he has receaved". But after he says his name the first paragraph is what he said and the second is my reply to him. (it was on blizzforums a few weeks ago, you proboly saw it since i think you go there more often than me).

Not that this effects his 'uberism' but i just find it funny how he seems to have logged his 'praise' quotes and shows them off like it makes him any better.

The paragraph he said is
QUOTE
I always and still do admire you. We didn't know each other, barely even seen each other, but still, I admire you. To me, you are a god. My inspiration came from you, even some great ideas. I may not know you well, barely even see you, but each and every second I am in your presence I am honored.

Actually he said that about me lol the following paragraph is the only thing I said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-08 at 09:41:40
Yeah I rememeber, he said that about you. It was in his retirement thread.

Anyways, Mp)3 is pretty much one of the best mapmakers. He has proficient skills in almost every single trigger system and he has invented a couple of them. He has great storyline and character development abilities which is crucial for making a great RPG. As you can see in his Everacha maps(I don't know which version I played), he manipulates how spells like recall are used to make the special effects.

Basicly I got more feedback from my question than the point that Mp)3 should be Uber.
He should be Uber or not?

I say yes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-11 at 16:30:13
I still haven't gottn response about wether Mp)3 can be Uber or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-01-11 at 16:41:57
Neither I about if Clokr_ can be über or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-14 at 03:18:07
QUOTE(Chu (previous post))
I think everyone needs to get in here, read, and respond. I personally don't want to respond until I'm back into the game a little longer and have been map making for a couple months.

But from what I can tell from the post Beer made with all the quotes. If those quotes are in fact valid, and I trust they are, then I would have no objection to him obtaining Uber map making skill.


After actually playing Mp)3's Everarcha map, I would like to voice against giving him an Uber map making skill. I found that map very average and rather buggy (portals un-organized and don't work properly, recruitment center shows no costs - yes I did try to move around looking for a location which shows the cost, a few other problems I found), it was also very imbalanced. You don't get experience from large portions of the map (buildings).

Overall, I have played much better "rpg" maps from people I would barely consider a nominee for the Uber map making skill.

And even though this topic has gone NOWHERE since Moose started it because no one is taking the initiative to nominate people or to actually change the skill of those people to Uber. I felt I should post my opinion on the matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-01-14 at 03:32:01
qPirateKing or whatever?
wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-14 at 09:44:51
I already know he can do terrain. But I can't actually download any of his maps (with the exception of Deep Blue, but that's different) to play them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-01-14 at 12:22:24
He makes the terrain awesome, but the gameplay sucks. The Legacy of Haen RPG is REALLY BORING. Its the BOREST map that I ever played lol. The full map are caves, and caves, and more caves...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-14 at 12:52:31
Yeah, thats what I figured it would be like. It looked to me like he was over compensating for something with his terrain. tongue.gif
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