Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ice_Inferno_X3 on 2005-01-07 at 19:43:09
A player by the name of shakespear101 is spreading a map that was made by starman jr. and is claiming he made it and has stolen all credit for map. If u c this ass please report him to blizzard or something. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-07 at 19:47:15
Nothing can be done about it. Blizzard sure as hell won't give a crap. But telling the largest community of mapers was just about the best thing you could have done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-01-07 at 19:52:12
QUOTE(Ice-Inferno-X3 @ Jan 7 2005, 06:43 PM)
A player by the name of shakespear101 is spreading a map that was made by starman jr. and is claiming he made it and has stolen all credit for map. If u c this ass please report him to blizzard or something. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!
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I can Give you the Entire Background on this
. He's from Us East, and i had informed him on a map Making contest. We Became temporary Friends. He has Tested 4-6 maps in the Making by me and my friends/associates.One of them is the Warhero RPG by starman jr. He was seen in a game with his name on the map and the game protected. He has access to the map which i plan to enter into the Map Making contest map. He has access to one of Ice-inferno-x3's maps that he is producing with a behind the seens partner. He has access to My second in Commands rpg. 
On top of all this we were testing rpgs and we tested my co-leaders rpg. In the Middle of the Game he opens(unprotects) the map and comes back telling us he was afk stealing Music, later he began making rude remarks and Renaming Rpgs of all he had Connected to me and My Colleagues/friends. He may even have access to Moggles new map, but that one im not sure about...
Something must be done about this map stealer, if we can Ip Ban his Name, steal it, or do something, this guy must be held accountable for stealing 4-6 Maps and Calling them his work in which he has done nothing to them.
P.S. I immediately ask SEN Staff of Team SEN To assist with this problem, it must be Resolved Now!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by x BakaPeter x on 2005-01-07 at 19:53:08
QUOTE(Tdnfthe1 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:52 PM)
I can Give you the Entire Background on this . He's from Us East, and i had informed him on a map Making contest. We Became temporary Friends. He has Tested 4-6 maps in the Making by me and my friends/associates.One of them is the Warhero RPG by starman jr. He was seen in a game with his name on the map and the game protected. He has access to the map which i plan to enter into the Map Making contest map. He has access to one of Ice-inferno-x3's maps that he is producing with a behind the seens partner. He has access to My second in Commands rpg.
On top of all this we were testing rpgs and we tested my co-leaders rpg. In the Middle of the Game he opens(unprotects) the map and comes back telling us he was afk stealing Music, later he began making rude remarks and Renaming Rpgs of all he had Connected to me and My Colleagues/friends. He may even have access to Moggles new map, but that one im not sure about...
Something must be done about this map stealer, if we can Ip Ban his Name, steal it, or do something, this guy must be held accountable for stealing 4-6 Maps and Calling them his work in which he has done nothing to them.
P.S. I immediately ask SEN Staff of Team SEN To assist with this problem, it must be Resolved Now!!
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. He's from Us East, and i had informed him on a map Making contest. We Became temporary Friends. He has Tested 4-6 maps in the Making by me and my friends/associates.One of them is the Warhero RPG by starman jr. He was seen in a game with his name on the map and the game protected. He has access to the map which i plan to enter into the Map Making contest map. He has access to one of Ice-inferno-x3's maps that he is producing with a behind the seens partner. He has access to My second in Commands rpg. On top of all this we were testing rpgs and we tested my co-leaders rpg. In the Middle of the Game he opens(unprotects) the map and comes back telling us he was afk stealing Music, later he began making rude remarks and Renaming Rpgs of all he had Connected to me and My Colleagues/friends. He may even have access to Moggles new map, but that one im not sure about...
Something must be done about this map stealer, if we can Ip Ban his Name, steal it, or do something, this guy must be held accountable for stealing 4-6 Maps and Calling them his work in which he has done nothing to them.
P.S. I immediately ask SEN Staff of Team SEN To assist with this problem, it must be Resolved Now!!
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eh i doubt blizzard would care at all about this but that guy does need some punishment. All day i dream about hacking. =D
also:can SEN really do anything?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-07 at 20:00:33
What confuses me is why you would let someone you barely know test your maps with you. I did that once, but that was when I first started maping and I didn't expect to release my initial first few maps. Also, I'm generally a good judge of character.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-01-07 at 20:10:19
QUOTE(Chu @ Jan 7 2005, 07:00 PM)
What confuses me is why you would let someone you barely know test your maps with you. I did that once, but that was when I first started maping and I didn't expect to release my initial first few maps. Also, I'm generally a good judge of character.
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We had been Testing One anothers maps for about 2 months now. He was somewhat trustworthy if u would think so.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-01-07 at 20:13:42
We should have a stolen map accusation department. 
Anyways, the best thing that you could do, you have: told us. Mappers here are bound to remember any thief's name, either we want to punish him, and/or a warning to us. You've done all you could.
Anyways, the best thing that you could do, you have: told us. Mappers here are bound to remember any thief's name, either we want to punish him, and/or a warning to us. You've done all you could.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Raenef- on 2005-01-07 at 20:35:10
Hmm, I've seen a map "by" him, though it's on my old computer, which is now gone. Guess I'm no help 
But something must be done, even if it's only here!
But something must be done, even if it's only here!Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarmanJr. on 2005-01-07 at 21:13:55
QUOTE
What confuses me is why you would let someone you barely know test your maps with you. I did that once, but that was when I first started maping and I didn't expect to release my initial first few maps. Also, I'm generally a good judge of character.
Wow, someone actually 'stole' a map of mines.
Anyways, as long as shakespear101 doesnt work on the map, then I'm ok because
#1) The map is only 3% done
#2) The intro was messed up
#3) The battle system had major bugs
#4) Good luck understanding my triggers (even I get confused myself -_-;;)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-01-07 at 21:17:33
A lot of people steal Starman's maps... Well maybe they are just attracted to the EarthBound name and went "Hey, I think I'll steal his map because he makes them." 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by -BW-Map_God on 2005-01-07 at 21:19:09
so maybe he'll just spread his "copies" and make himself look like a fool since its all so bugged and incomplete, hehe 
. HMm, this makes me glad I hardly ever play on east 
. HMm, this makes me glad I hardly ever play on east Report, edit, etc...Posted by OvErRuN on 2005-01-07 at 21:19:40
Haha, but what about moogles and everyone elses?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-01-07 at 21:21:50
Well... They don't count! ok?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2005-01-08 at 00:07:57
Heh, this happens all the time. Scandals and stealing and what not.
Unfortunately nothing can be done, as the other people in this post has said.
You can only learn from this mistake... never trust anyone, even if they seem pure of heart. Thats about all I can say. Fortunately you notified SEN, which is one of the biggest map making forums available... unfortunately, you posted in the wrong section... =P (you're supposed to show off maps here..)
Unfortunately nothing can be done, as the other people in this post has said.
You can only learn from this mistake... never trust anyone, even if they seem pure of heart. Thats about all I can say. Fortunately you notified SEN, which is one of the biggest map making forums available... unfortunately, you posted in the wrong section... =P (you're supposed to show off maps here..)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2005-01-08 at 00:38:11
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Jan 7 2005, 09:21 PM)
Well... They don't count! ok?
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Jet STFU, my map may not be important to you but is to me, hell only started map 2 - 4 days ago and already sound like being jacked Oo
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-01-08 at 00:54:05
That's why you protect every map you show people with the latest ProEdit. That way they can only steal your sounds with WinMPQ, unless they're a real career hex-editor, but most map-stealers usually don't know a bit from a byte.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-08 at 01:05:00
I'm sure they know that now. But not everyone is fortunate enough to know what protection is, let alone what the best kind of protection is. (I'm not trying to imply that that is the case here, however)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-01-08 at 02:18:23
QUOTE(Chu @ Jan 8 2005, 01:05 AM)
I'm sure they know that now. But not everyone is fortunate enough to know what protection is, let alone what the best kind of protection is. (I'm not trying to imply that that is the case here, however)
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Hey, is it possible to manually hex-edit maps to encrypt? I've always been curious but never found out. If it is, it's like making a random protection each time you do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-01-08 at 03:23:13
Of course you can manually hex-edit a CHK file, but the thing is the format of a CHK file isn't necessarily the most difficult thing to understand. Any half-decent hex-editor-attemptee with access to the file specs (freely available at campaigncreations.org) would be able to figure out any useless things you may have added or removed to make the map unreadable by StarEdit. Clokr_ is much better at hiding those unreadable bits than pretty much anybody, and by extension so is ProEdit. There's only so many ways alter a CHK file.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-01-08 at 03:33:08
QUOTE(Nozomu @ Jan 8 2005, 03:23 AM)
Of course you can manually hex-edit a CHK file, but the thing is the format of a CHK file isn't necessarily the most difficult thing to understand. Any half-decent hex-editor-attemptee with access to the file specs (freely available at campaigncreations.org) would be able to figure out any useless things you may have added or removed to make the map unreadable by StarEdit. Clokr_ is much better at hiding those unreadable bits than pretty much anybody, and by extension so is ProEdit. There's only so many ways alter a CHK file.
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Just wondering, and goodie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-01-08 at 03:48:30
Well there's really nothing you can do except doing what your doing, spreading the word...It's unfair that someone's map has been stolen but technicly theres nothing anyone can do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Raenef- on 2005-01-08 at 12:23:12
Something still has to be done! 
I hate two things in life, bad food and map stealers! Well, there's that one guy I despise with every fiber of my being, soul and mind, guess I forgot about that.
But I guess we've done all we can, short of going to Town Square and spreading his name there as a map stealer... I don't think that would work, though.
I hate two things in life, bad food and map stealers! Well, there's that one guy I despise with every fiber of my being, soul and mind, guess I forgot about that.
But I guess we've done all we can, short of going to Town Square and spreading his name there as a map stealer... I don't think that would work, though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2005-01-08 at 13:08:17
There's no such thing as a sort of "random" protection because StarCraft always checks the .chk file to make sure all the sections are accurate. Even if a section that StarCraft ignores is randomly modified, like the ISOM section, it still checks the section if it's there. Which is odd. If you remove it though StarCraft doesn't check it. So there is a limited numbre of methods of protection.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oni-Sei on 2005-01-08 at 13:22:45
if anything use Pro Edit like *scrolls back* Nozomu or use the Star Forge Protector that thing is hard to unprotect right?
then do some of the things in the map like make your name out of Fog of War
place 2-4 locations randomly with your name down and copy down the cordinence on the bottem left
take an Unused unit and name it after you so when and if they dont see it they cant change it of sorts(cunfusing sry)
and if you have comments add secret ones for most of them or random ones that say your name and un check them so they cant be found
i thik those are some of the best ways
and im sorry about the map thing if i find this guys Nub ass ill pwn beat the crap out of him or tell someone else
you can always do... /whereis shakespear101 when your on east it should tell you if he is in a game or a privet Channle
and always test with someone you have knowen the longest not the shortest
then do some of the things in the map like make your name out of Fog of War
place 2-4 locations randomly with your name down and copy down the cordinence on the bottem left
take an Unused unit and name it after you so when and if they dont see it they cant change it of sorts(cunfusing sry)
and if you have comments add secret ones for most of them or random ones that say your name and un check them so they cant be found
i thik those are some of the best ways
and im sorry about the map thing if i find this guys Nub ass ill pwn beat the crap out of him or tell someone else
you can always do... /whereis shakespear101 when your on east it should tell you if he is in a game or a privet Channle
and always test with someone you have knowen the longest not the shortest
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slayer[SP] on 2005-01-08 at 13:43:46
Why wont we make somekind of blacklist of people who are stealing maps, and then we warn and keep ourselves away from that person before he could test or even download the map?