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Hello, I took site of this site recently and took notice immedietely at the supportive and friendly community. Anyways, I wanted to release a little side project map of mine that, in my opinion, would be a innovative addition to the way maps are made.

My map is based on a scroll screen type engine, similar to the retrospective Zelda games that were available for the NES and SNES systems. The map I have for you already has the engine worked out, and then some. There are a few quests already, but as you will see (upon playing the map) the boundaries for the map are only limited by the amount of triggers that can be used.

And to quote the great Morpheus, You have to see it for yourself. (I don't intend to make a grandiose pretentious introduction for my map, I merely speak the truth, simple put, it is easier to see it, then to explain it.

PLAYING THE GAME
Comments and feedback is always welcome, my greatest concern for this map is the introduction. You start off remote from a town, and you have to travel to it, whereupon you can choose a 'character'. Therefore I may do a little reworking on that. Other then that, I am completely ignorant to any other kinds of shortcomings my map may have. Also, try moving back and fourth in the map, you will be pleased to see the results. (I also intend to change the experience system) Again, that is why I post this map, for the feedback!

Enjoy!,

shakespeare101

P.S I'm also working on a map for the winter map making contest (due january 31) it is pretty much done, but I may as well keep it until the 31st mark right? Look for it soon. It is called "The Golden Land RPG" (corny name I know, but it is indeed the best map I have ever made)

Well here it is for download,
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ing awsome, i love it man, but its abit hard, the starting part almost killed me, id like to see an unprotected version of this too

I remember helping test this map when you hosted it in public, i died pretty fast though it's pretty good, come out with a v1.0 soon [100% complete]

shakespeare101,

Very well created map. I liked it very much. As High said bit hard
at the start im sure your working on fixing that or ment for more then
1 player . Loved how looks, how u move along and takes you to different
area but in same box. Very creative.

P.S. You have also been accursed of map stealing in a thread. Im sure you
didnt or you maysaid it as joke to guys. here is thread.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...ndpost&p=120934

Well good luck with map.

Thanks, and also thanks for letting me know about the 'fraud' thread. I posted a message just now and hopefully it will clear things up.

This is what I wrote.




Wow... this is just funny. Moogle let me know about this thread, wonder why you didn't post it in my original post. Anyways, that is all false, I made this map from scratch. I'd really like to see this person reply to my main post because he was most likely one of my testers which somehow got an unprotected copy of my map (as i so often do protect it because of the incident in question) I'd also like to see advancements in the map by the supposed "creator" as I am sure it is too advanced for him, as he takes credit for other people's work.

For those still in doubt. Don't you think it's gonna be funny that i'll actually be releasing updates on the map?

Another, the second post in my original release, the guy actually remembers testing it with me one time. http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=9301

P.S Starman.Jr, I took a look at your reply in this thread, and suffice to say, you resemble to me an unscupoulous greedy little kid who is either too bored, or enjoys instigating conflicts. I just joined this site and i'm already bombarded with this, now I wonder if it was worth it to take the time to sign up for three seconds... hmm... no there are still good people, moogle being one of them (informed me of this thread without judging), he is a good example of someone who is mature enough to look at both sides of an arguement.




Also I think they were fretting about how they can't do anything about "map stealers". My reply to that is, can we do anything about credit stealers? How one offbeat post can make a false truth into a reality. It is kind of annoying.


UPDATE: Ok i've given all my replies out in the forums pertaining to this (taking me 30 minutes, 30 minutes which should have been spent doing something more productive) Anyways i've concluded that if this continues, as soon as I hand in my golden land rpg map which i'm working on for the winter contest, then i'm out of this making maps business which i do for the same reasons I write short stories, to let people enjoy them. I look forward to the feedback (it feeds the fire) but when accused of stealing other people's work it is a big turn off.

I've only got to the town(trying to decide between Ling and Lot), and so far, it's pretty cool.
I like it.

I like it Good map, You are at the same place as me, EzDay2... . Heheheh

tell me what you think of it when your done friend
you should play it with people it is easier to get past the town your at, or just use single player cheats

Shake,

As you said people only see one side of story, but not dotted line down middle which explains both sides. I didnt see any proof that you did anything just words, words can only go so far in life. Anywoot how much longer till this map is done i want own it and play it till the finish =)

all i know is that i made the map alone from scratch, and I am clueless to why someone should accuse me of stealing the map, and all i know is that i've posted a map with my name branded on it, and the other guy hasn't. And personally i wouldn't enjoy taking credit for any other map but my own, it is the same concept as map hacking for me:your not getting any advantage cause your still gonna suck.

This Map might be yours but i have the map of starmanjr.'s map which u edited and it has your name on it(And a few friends have it) but since you're being all "honorable" and not a very unnerving person, we will allow it to go by. Just dont do anymore map stealing and credit stealing.
And your golden land rpg is quite good and so is empyrean castle(all of which ive seen 10 times before) so goodluck with those maps.

P.S. what you did to with PDF_Shadow was annoying, even tho it cant be prevented and what not, not going through someones map because they ask you would be quite nice.

Shakespeare101, as a tester of Starmanjr.'s very VERY early version of WarHero, this is not even the same map used for it.



This is a 64x64 map, Star's map is 256x256. Ice-Inferno is not talking about this PARTICULAR map. There is no accusations against you at all so I wouldn't be surprised if you did make this map. No matter what the case, this map is quite good

I hope that clears up some things

Edit:


If he was talking about THIS map, then off with his head! But hes not (not his style of mapmaking for one)... and trust me.. I still remember his alpha glitches from his map. He's not making this up

Going though levels, how many is there all up? like stages planned out by triggers and stuff?

Ok so now i have my name on sarman.jr's map? Well i can tell you one thing, I did not put my name on there, this is just a joke isn't it? I'm glad you mentioned pdf_shadow though. What happened was I did look through his map yes, but before he said anything about it (all i ended up doing was checking out a sound he had "battle music" because he said there was gonna be some, so i got curious what it was- i did this as we were testing) subsequently afterword, him and his clan member and i were discussing the "ethics" of this kind of thing, which i mostly took as humour, i thought they were too, but after a few minutes it was obvious they weren't, so things got a little dumb, as for the name on starman.jr's map? I don't know how i got it, and i'm not casting any blame, but i suspect maybe someone put it on there, maybe to prove a point?

I'm mostly angry right now that i hav to defend myself for something i didn't do, i got a feeling how tim robbin felt in shawshenk redemption. I can't believe things drag on like this, it is really ridiculous.


(someone might take my alluding to who did it in this post offensively and then comment on that. it just keeps dragging on, all from something that i didn't do!)

now to answer a few questions from the post.

"Just dont do anymore map stealing and credit stealing. "

.... i never did.


"but since you're being all "honorable" and not a very unnerving person, we will allow it to go by."

i never did.



I see your being nice, especialy to someone who you probably think did steal a map, but i don't even know what to say, all these accusations are getting repetitive

Nice game, but it seems like you didn't use hypertriggers. Eh, I know you'll add them by the release of the game. I especially liked the little puzzles you put into that game, but the 3x3 beacon one was pretty weird and hard to complete. Overall, you did a great job with the beta. I hope you incorporate more sounds into the final release of the map.

A couple complaints.
First, the explosions in the first area seem to be 2z3 rather than 2x2, as they look like and would make sense, because Ican be farther from the bottom then from the top and still die. Very annoying, when I'm only about 1 step from getting past it(and MArines have small steps).

Also, for the part where you choose which unit to get, you should cloak the beacons.
I tried grabbing Zealot, but my Marine, seeing there was already a unit there, wandered around stupidly and turned into... an infested terran...

Well since you're also not taking my harsh use of words very seriously it appears to me maybe you didnt edit this map. But it does have your name on it and it's defenitely not yours, on the other hand you don't seem to be trying to blow anything out of proportion, or take any of our accusations too hard. Umm, i Guess what i wanna post is we should just try to put it behind us since the guy who does own the map doesnt feel bad about it at all, and there's no proof that you did put your name on this map in my possesion, we should just try to forget about this map stealing thing(and the arguement in the Game). And about that, i guess a certain someone(not u) was quite offended by the fact that you dug through his friends map, so let's try our best to put it behind us.

P.S. I Still cant get past the damn town in empyrean castle...

...... I don't get how taking .wavs from a map is wrong... (>.<) .Wavs are awesome things! I mean .wavs truely enhance the game!!! For example, FF7 chocobo racing music. You can use that .wav in many games because its very flexible in how you interperet the meaning of the music (silly, racing, joyful) while other .wavs are really meant for one or two purposes.


Sorry, its not.


Hey since I alpha-tested Star's map can I see it??? I wanna add to my memoirs when I can't play BW anymore. <(^.^)>


Well I posted what I wanted to post, and since Shakespeare is the accused, you get the last word on this subject
Post wisely!

I thought it was a new idea.. I tried playin this solo, but got ripped to shreads later on.. So yea.. I cheated n walla, fun. It seemed nice that you can go back n forth. You gotta fix the lil drift the marine gets when you choose units. I guess you are s uppose to play this with others, cuz you can't beat the bosses solo. :/ Anyways, good luck, and it's goin well. Tho it seems.. a bit too bland for my tastes tho, but good idea nonetheless!

This map is going to be awesome!!!

But, I think I sorta did something that defeated the purpose of the map... (>.<)

I was doing your map 3-player with yahi(ko) [The calm one], J1m [The crazy one], and me [the good bounder]. While we were trying to beat the gutter boss, I came into thinking that all of those 4 characters you can choose are horrible. So after we lost to gutter boss, I told them at the beginning of the next game, "Let's stay wanderers!"

So in short, we beat the beta with 3 wanderers. I think that we defeated the purpose of becoming "your true form" when we won with our "weaker" forms.

In any case, that's an awesome map! Did you use a type of coordinate system, like if you went to the right exit you would add one zealot (x coordinate+1) and if you went to the left exit you would remove one zealot(x coordinate -1) and did the same concept for up and down?

Good luck on your map!

ya i used a coordinate system, not with zealots though , oh and with the marines, before i released it, i increased their hp higher because i noticed you needed atleast 3 players to survive the broodlings at the start, i didn't even realise they would get to be the strongest.

Lies!!! You can survive the broodlings at the start with only one guy!

You just run to the area east of you! You can make sure you don't get swarmed.. you really just have to kill one and walk out and kill any still following you.
(You can kill all the lings you face before the first town with marine)



Yep, the wanderers ARE too strong ... lets see.. I like the idea with the infested terran. You're using him so you can run past enemies and get to other screens faster. (He's great player to have after you kill gutter boss because we all had about 3, 5, & 7hp after killing gutter boss and barely got back to the town alive (>.<))

Then your ling is used for self heal so it can survive and it never needs to heal, but you gave it only 10hp so it can be hurt by ultras and other strong creatures.

Third you have your firebat. 25hp or around that and does 4 dmg and gets +2 per attack. I never used him, but in the beta he seemed like a very weak choice because the majority of units had a large armor class. If my SC Math is correct, he would do 1/4 dmg to large units and since firebat fully upgraded (in beta) is 8 dmg he would do 2dmg to dragoons, ultras, and one other unit that you'll have to play to see (don't wanna give it away ), whereas marines fully upgraded they would do 4 dmg to all units. Also, all chooseable units in the beta are meelee units, so using splash more hurts your friends than your enemies.

And last but not least, the zealot. He was probably the best one of the choices. He had 30hp (hence his (tank) in his name), and does 4dmg (+2 per up). The zealot is good, but he just attacks too slow for my liking. Marines attack extremely fast compared to zealot in my opinion.

We need a unit update


Yay so you did use a coordinate system!

Super fun map...super hard too. Me and some pubbies got to the mini balrog boss. How much farther does the demo go past him? Will there be treasures and stuff later that randomly spawn? Oh and when I saw there was bouding involved...I really didn't want to play anymore. I HATE bounds. But I guess the map would be pretty bland if you didn't have the bound stuff in there. Oh well. Awesome job. Keep up the great work.

I liked it alot because it's something new yet fun, even though i didn't get very far... and once you die it's over and there's no fun starting over.... perhaps it needs life or something in the final?
just a though

-Bonelesskid

Ya it does suck to start over. Especially if you get gayed in the end. But you should just save at each intersection.