Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-18 at 07:17:19
Like most people use observer for everything, why not a wraith that is cloaked with unlimited energy? They're speed is much faster, they also cloak.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-01-18 at 09:35:16
What is the point to this post? I don't see the point... unless it's meant to be spam 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-18 at 10:00:24
QUOTE(SA_Max71 @ Jan 18 2005, 07:35 AM)
What is the point to this post? I don't see the point... unless it's meant to be spam
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What i meant is that, people should use cloaked wraith more often then observer, its less blurry when a unit is moving to the wraith. The speed is much faster then observer with upgrade.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-01-18 at 10:02:15
Ok, I understand now...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-18 at 11:29:51
I use wraith when I want or need something fast. But other than that I use observer because it's naturally cloaked. I dont need to worry about mana, or making sure to create it cloaked, or any of that 
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.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2005-01-18 at 13:52:25
Not only that but, under the correct conditions, the wraith will uncloak, even with 100% energy.
And that is not fun at all...
And an observer is more steady moving... you'd get seziures from constantly centering view a wraith
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And that is not fun at all...
And an observer is more steady moving... you'd get seziures from constantly centering view a wraith
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-18 at 20:45:41
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Jan 18 2005, 11:52 AM)
Not only that but, under the correct conditions, the wraith will uncloak, even with 100% energy.
And that is not fun at all...
And an observer is more steady moving... you'd get seziures from constantly centering view a wraith .
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And that is not fun at all...
And an observer is more steady moving... you'd get seziures from constantly centering view a wraith
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Uh trigger with unlimited energy?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-18 at 22:24:57
QUOTE(SA_Max71 @ Jan 18 2005, 10:35 AM)
What is the point to this post? I don't see the point... unless it's meant to be spam
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Theres no purpose to spam in a forum that doesn't count for minerals or posts just as you know...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2005-01-18 at 22:29:13
Wriaths also have an attack, so they are not good pointer and selector unist because tehy will fly off
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-19 at 01:33:49
QUOTE(krazydrunkking @ Jan 18 2005, 07:45 PM)
Uh trigger with unlimited energy?
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No. When a cloaked wraith has no enemies, or other orders, it will stop and uncloak. No matter how much energy. I experienced this delema in one of my maps. I'm not sure, but I think creating an invis invincy enemy unit nearby might work at keeping them cloaked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-19 at 10:49:07
QUOTE(Chu @ Jan 18 2005, 11:33 PM)
No. When a cloaked wraith has no enemies, or other orders, it will stop and uncloak. No matter how much energy. I experienced this delema in one of my maps. I'm not sure, but I think creating an invis invincy enemy unit nearby might work at keeping them cloaked.
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No... thats not true, because computer players gets his wraith under attack, it cloaks... until there no longer energy... also it uncloaks during 0% mana
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QUOTE(High @ Jan 18 2005, 08:29 PM)
Wriaths also have an attack, so they are not good pointer and selector unist because tehy will fly off
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Unless he is allied to humans or neutral, DUH
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-19 at 11:06:29
You have to play one of my old maps and see for yourself then. I have a player with a special attack that creates 3 cloaked wraiths and has them attack the computer players around them. They are created with properties: full energy, invincy, cloak.
What happens is exactly what I said above. They attack enemies normally, but if they don't see a target or aren't being issued any other orders they will just decloak and stop.
It is a limited time attack. They are removed after only a few seconds. So I KNOW they can't possibly be running out of energy. I also know this because I can use the attack normally when there are large amounts of computer units around and they won't decloak at all but continue to attack.
What happens is exactly what I said above. They attack enemies normally, but if they don't see a target or aren't being issued any other orders they will just decloak and stop.
It is a limited time attack. They are removed after only a few seconds. So I KNOW they can't possibly be running out of energy. I also know this because I can use the attack normally when there are large amounts of computer units around and they won't decloak at all but continue to attack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-20 at 09:48:55
QUOTE(Chu @ Jan 19 2005, 09:06 AM)
You have to play one of my old maps and see for yourself then. I have a player with a special attack that creates 3 cloaked wraiths and has them attack the computer players around them. They are created with properties: full energy, invincy, cloak.
What happens is exactly what I said above. They attack enemies normally, but if they don't see a target or aren't being issued any other orders they will just decloak and stop.
It is a limited time attack. They are removed after only a few seconds. So I KNOW they can't possibly be running out of energy. I also know this because I can use the attack normally when there are large amounts of computer units around and they won't decloak at all but continue to attack.
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What happens is exactly what I said above. They attack enemies normally, but if they don't see a target or aren't being issued any other orders they will just decloak and stop.
It is a limited time attack. They are removed after only a few seconds. So I KNOW they can't possibly be running out of energy. I also know this because I can use the attack normally when there are large amounts of computer units around and they won't decloak at all but continue to attack.
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When I play melee... a computer wraith attacks me... since i did black sheep wall ITS STILL cloaked... look at my map The Walking Twirling Marine, I played and left the computer idle for 5 minutes.. ITS STILL CLOAKED!.. Just do order triggers... but I made a test map.... and it works
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-20 at 11:58:55
I found it. YOU pre-placed your wraith. I created mine. Here: [attachmentid=4293]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-01-20 at 16:14:20
You know, why not create it cloaked for player 12? Player 12 shouldn't uncloak, or does it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-01-20 at 16:26:53
I need it to attack. But now that I've found it won't uncloak when preplaced, I might just pre-place them and hide them in the map ... which will be hard. The playing field for this map takes up about 99% of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-01-24 at 02:32:34
Finally... you see