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Think of assisted suicide as a mercy kill. You find a dear that has all of it's bones shattered and you kill it because you didn't want it to suffer. OH ING !! IM GOING TO HELL!!! THATS JUST ING DANDY!! Hell if the Kavorkian trials were still going on I'd kill everyone who was against him. The people clearly thought it out and asked him to kill them. That's not that bad.

Another thing! "Thou shalt not kill" doesn't apply for animals? Why not? Killing is ending the life of someone or something that's alive right? So exterminators are going to hell and everyone here is going to hell because you are bathing and killing of germs which are technically alive. In fact eating anything in general automatically breaks that rule. Breathing too breaks that rule because you breath in particles that kill cells in your lungs alot these days.

In essence if you are alive currently, you're going to hell. Now don't pull any bull on me saying it only applies to people, I've carefully read the bible and the 10 commandments to know that everything that is alive is going to hell.

There's my 10 cents.

well, I did read your post, and I think that you need to look further - if assissting suicide was ok in public killing her won't make his life worst and sad, infect, he could be happy knowing that he freed her of the pain (alzheimer), so infect - that's suicide assissting supportive as well.

If someone wants to dei, let them. Its their choice.

FireKame, I believe what he's refering to is the fact that God wants the best for us in our lives, and he wants us to glorify him through our lives. How can that be accomplished if we kill ourselves?

If god wants the best for us (if there is such a thing) then if were in such pain he wouldnt want us to stay and live with it

Of course it should be deemed legal. Even though it would probably lead to some abusing (don't ask me how), it'd probably help alot of suffering people, which the government doesn't care about (Bible stuff, no offense to non-atheists).

Someone should be able to do what he or she wants with his or her life. If it must be ended, then let it be. Need help? Asking someone that agrees to help you? Sign some "legal" papers? All set to go to paradise!...

How can living the best of our lives be accomplished if we're in the worst possible circumstances? As said before; supposing there was Hell to pay, it would be trading 1 hell with another.

Also, how can glorifieing Him be accomplished if we're sitting there in pain, unable to feed ourselves?

Oh, and, by the way? You know that bug you killed when you were 9? Well, he's coming right back to bite your ass several times harder when you die.

killing is killing, when your in the hospital and dieing and in a lot of pain, you can sign a law firm thingy telling that they have accoplished their goals and lived a long enoguh life and then they pull the plug or what ever you want to call it

assisted suicide is simply a homocide, if this were leagal, every murder case wood plead "assisted suicide". that is one main reason.

also, for some1 to want to end their life is a big problem, most likely its over a lost love, or something in that area, if u can get help to kill yourself, there is nothing to stop that person from doing it. if u can not get help to be killed, the person will have a bit more time to relax and think over his situation and about how drastic and un realistic killing oneself is.

Thats why some people are talking about some legal papers and things like that to make sure that the guy who wants to die does not drag his "assister" to go on a trial for murder. I think assisted suicide is legal in holland. So, anyways, if they do legalize it in North America they would have papers and stuff the "victim" will have to sign.

read between the lines, outside the box and over the hills.

Well, none of us need to worry about this because people who commit suicide are either
-Very Unintelligent
-Very Intelligent
-Very... Injured

and I'm pretty sure none of us are any of those.

we all can only hope, lol

Then you could have solid evidence(video tapes, signed papers, etc) stating that the person wants to commit suicide, and they would be required for the 'murder' to be allowed.
If the person is in such critical condition that he cannot even say he wants to die, or sign his name, and does not seem to be in such condition that he will be able to do such within a month, then there's not really much point inletting him live anyway.

Unrealistic killing oneself is? How so?


I feel flattered

Fine, be that way - I only said it due to the fact that I can't be bothered typing up my own opinions since they are actually what I believed in. If you can't take a compliment and think eveyone is kissing your ass, then maybe you shouldn't.

And for euthanasia, but only in special ocassions as stated before (very ill persons with no chance of surviving). They've been trying to legalize it in Netherlands for some time. Maybe they can pull it. I'd support that for sure.

But I don't agree with suicide, though. To me, persons tryin' to suicide themselves aren't very mentally fit at that moment. See some teenagers cases... when lifes doesn't go smoothly some of'em that don't have the strenght to endure those times, think about it to the point of tryin' to do it.
All cases of whom who wants to suicide should go under a psychic avaluation (along with others perhaps) 1st. That's where euthanasia comes in to play for me.

Alas there's the other side, they could find a cure for that disease or improve the quality of life state of that person. If he had euthanasia 1st he won't be here to be eventually cured. Just not to mention the possible remorse the assistant could have if he finds out that the recently deceased could be cured afterall.

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Jesus wanted to die to get back to God, he actually wanted to die, now did he go to hell?

Ok, that's just something that suddenly popped into my mind... I don't really read the bible - so I might be wrong..

Yup, you're wrong by that assumption. He didn't wanted to die, he kinda offered himself to sacrifice for us.
That's what the book tells anyway... please let's not turn this into another religious thread (faith vs. you know what).

if religon is mentioned in this thread in an unrelated way, please report it immidiatly and I'll talk the proper actions.

Sorry, but we already have about a ba jillion religon threeads.

I changed my mind, if someone wanna suicide, make sure to prevent it.

Suicide ruins the society, not only the person who killed himself.

I dont think suicide should be legal because the ppl doing suicide might have vital info about real important stuff.



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"Suicide ruins the society, not only the person who killed himself."

How so?

And what does 'really important' information matter if you're in such a state that you don't give a frick about it, or can't even tell people it?

Ok then. But I don't like to squeal much anyways. Altough, I'll keep it in mind. (If that was meant for me in the 1st place. If not, disregard this comment.)

As for the 2nd paragraph, thoroughly agreed. (And that's why I made that comment for starters.)



If you're refering to only suicide in the 1st paragraph, I 2nd that motion.

As for the 2nd one, I just hope you're menaing it's close relationships. If that's not the case, then I don't know what's your intent with it.



Wth? That's all I can come up with for now... explain it better, please.

I believe if you want to die. And you are suffering and stuff you should be able to let somebody else kill you and not have it against the law. Maybe your to weak to get up and grab a gun or something. Have somebody else do it. Ever see that movie "Starship troopers". If I was getting half eaten by a bug I would certainly want somebody to shoot me. I would rather not suffer.