Staredit Network

For somehow I made a UMS melee just for fun then Yoshi thinks it's rigged... Usually my maps are never rigged.

Thats because we don't allow rigged versions and we check 'em too.


Its kind of obvious when everyone starts off with a 9999 hp 9999 damage ghost on a map with normal zerg units as your opponent. There are minor imbalances which are sometimes okay and just as fun, and then there are major, which is all I see on battle.net now. For real.


Actually I was just ticked off. I was fine with it.

They are just the part of everyday life, just play private matches for important "fun - playing" if you hate rigged matches, else accept it'll happen.

I agree with this, but opinions rule over battle.net so we don't have much choice. No matter who's right there will always be another opinion to stir up some .

I'm only going to say this once.

If you find a rigged map, unrig it, lock it and play it a few times on battlenet so people can get the good version of it.

Thats a problem when you have a LATENCY problem... I can't even join games... and all the games I seem to be able to join are little Madness Games... Very dumb... I hope people realize theres nothing we can do... There will always be someone who decides to see what will happen when they beat this map and so they rigg it for fun and see what happenes...

the way i see it yoshi, the only thing we can do that is within reasonable limits is to not allow any rigged maps here, its not like we are going to find every single map avalible and every version and un-rig them, what can we do but beat the newbs who rig them and make them seem like complete : : heads

Btw, can you guys fix this emoticon? it was my favorite and i cant use it

That is true. But as of right now the publicized steps to unprotect ProEdit v1.4.1 are so long I highly doubt anyone would do it.

People who rig maps are generally the ones that don't like challanges
I think they should just quit.

Rigging does get annoying but I still think there is nothing more fun than setting 'unused 60' to 255 for player one in TMA and going on a storming spree.

Luckily nothing I'm making will really be worth rigging (since I'm going to make maybe... one non-RPG map), since all they'll have is FFX's battle system in terms of... fighting stuffs. Then again, they'll be like reading books. Eh. For any riggers out there, I hope you like sifting through three hours worth of story triggers just to rig the battle system (which'll be really... not all that important to the RPG).

riggers.....but, i had one of my funnest games in a rigged game, i beat the guy that rigged it. Me and a friend ere playing a rigged ver. of bunker wars, then, it became me and my friend vs. the rigger. I held him off if he attaked my friend, and pal used a couple yomato gun shots to bring his bunker to red, then the bc died, but we outlasted him, we won!

most people rig games like madnesses and OMFG games just so they can win to raise their already low self esteem because they're fukcing newbs

Or so they can gloat the entire game and then win after every player is sick of listening to them.

1 year ago :
- i was playing about 1/3 of all maps that was played by users
Now :
- i only play 1/10 of maps that users play

the facts :
- rigged maps
- bad players (more and more hackers, oh, god)
- good original and fair maps are pratically never played :[
- I always need to host game, and very often people don't come

so ? :
- I changed
or
- People of battle.net become noober and play rigged maps

conclusion :
- that this fact that pushed me to map making : i found other map uncomplete or rigged, so i wanted to do mine, better ....
- solutions ? :
* stop playing maps, people inside are noobs, if u don't find good games hosted, wait a bit and refresh, if not, host a game, if nobody comes, it's a bad day, go mapping or do something else, and try again in the journey
(that what i do now)
* Make new maps "un-riggedable" and u'll need them to be played a lot to replace rigged maps, but warning : very often map makers make strategical, complexe maps, it's good yeah, but bnet majority people is noob and they like noobs maps like Special Forces, Photon Defense, Don't Move..... you'll say, some of those maps are not rigged, but they are just to noobish, well you can't do anything for that except change mentality of bnet players what would be really hard

I wonder if any of those people have heard of something called....A MAP PROTECTOR!!

It's so funny when you beat people that have rigged the game..

Refer to my previous post. That will only stop about 1/2 of riggers.

Thats why I prefer to play public Wc3 more than public Sc.
Noobs don't know how to use such an advanced editor as Wc3. Heck, even I don't know how to make lots of triggers. I only know the basics.

Don't worry. Rigged maps are banned from map night

BTW this isn't an unprotector rant or anything (I never really ranted about unprotectors in the first place). Its just the style of boring games going on battle.net these days...

ehh ok....

People rig maps so they can have fun and actually be "happy" and laugh sometimes. Even when someone is rigged against you, you'll be "taken aback" and might say some weird comments about it with an ambivalence of feelings.

Battle.net is to have fun, to play games. We, SENers, take games seriously and want them to be fair. Mostly it's because we're map makers; we make maps so that people can enjoy them because they're good. That's our soul purpose. We have our mindset into thinking that all maps should be fair and equal. If you never were a map maker, some of you would sometimes think some rigged maps are funny and entertaining. Besides, UMS games really dont do anything with your record or ranking so why not play some games that are totally bs to an extent?

yesterday i played a game of Amazing Turret Defense 1.1 made by JackTheRimmer, apparently sum1 has tampered with it and now instead of starting with 3 minerals and working hard for each and every one. u now start with 10,000...
making the game completly ruined.
map riggers are jelous noob map makers who use other ppls maps to make themselves look good. (in their own mind of coarse)

A lot of the maps out nowadays are made by n3wb137 mappers who dont even know about GuEdit or like Starforge to protect their maps...
But it is funny when you PWnz0rz some little who rigged it

always ALWAYS good to kill a map rigger in their own map, lol

Hey well map riggers are better than map stealers.

Map stealers are Starcraft Criminals and should be hanged.

That's exactly was what I was thinking.

If a defense map has unlimited minerals, you might as well play it once to see what happens in the end, all in good fun. If you're the map maker who got his said defense map rigged, that's another story...

I've never played rigged RPG maps. Yet again, I don't like RPG maps anyway.

When I played OMFG THE ZERGLINGS, I thought it was supposed to have unlimited money and fast building. However, I got a little suspicious when the upgrades weren't quick. Now I realize that it was a rigged version, and see why it should be a challenge to people.

Rigged maps can be fun to play once or twice, but it gets annoying when a map was fully ruined by a rig and/or you've never played the original.