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It is EXTREMELY unlikely that blizzard will change anything such as that for 1.12. Expecailly the square terrain stuff... why would they go into so much trouble to prevent us from doing that? It'd be more to piss us off then it would be for anything else.

You're right about the player 13+ thing though. It is possible they may prevent us from using it. Then again, it would make may maps impossible to use, and they'll get flooded with compaints to blizzard about it.

My opinion, blizz will just leave it the way it is, and remember to not allow anything like that in future versions of their games. Starcraft is too old and overloading the buffer is not attributed with hacks or unbalencing melee games. All it really does is crash mac users, which I haven't seen blizzard fix indepedant command centers for the past 6 years, so why would they "fix" this?

Boycotting would be stupid. A private server playing the old patch would have to be found, and we wouldn't have many players, and playing with the effects we can make with 1.11b would be worseless without people to play them that have never seen them before. Stupid and our protest will most likely not be heard.

You guys can protest/boycott all you want... I'm going to support patch 1.12, and so will SEN. The community is UMS/melee based. It NEEDS the battle.net to survive.

I wasnt Telling anyone to Boycott it, I was just wondering if that would make a difference. And besides as soon as the new patch comes out i am going to download it

No. Really. When the new patch comes out, I'm going to eat it.

I heard the new patch will disable all stacking, is that true?

BTW: who is that in dirty tank d lol jk unless you have an answer...

They'e said that like everytime a new patch comes out.

Wow, when i first heard of the patch i thought it would be cool, with pings and less hacks would be availible to people. But whnei heard it could affect maps, i think that is retaded, i dont think they can do that, we make good maps, they cant take away the stuff we need to make them.

Ooh and with this new minimap being shown, you dont have to actually play Sexy Pics map to see the pics

What's the point of those maps anyway? If you want porn, go Google it. If you want StarCraft, go on Battle.net. Porn + StarCraft = Unhappy Blizzard = Unhappy Users.

[I will use 1.12]
[I think the patch will modify p13+ effects like DK said
BUT it will very probably make OTHER effects and maybe BETTER or FUNNIER,
how can we know ? It's just a surprise and hope the better !]
[They didn't say everything of the patch, SO i really HOPE they will make a resolution changer o_O]
[I think also that would change the new anyunit powerup list, but not the effects, that would change what sprite is made, no shadow of marines, but another and all stuff, list to remake , i THINK]
[I also hope it will comes up to my birthday date that it's soon lol ! That would be a really good birthday present ]
[Oh and, i doN'T think this patch gonna change map makking..... (triggers, units sprites) concept)]

[That's all]
lol

Actually, they never really removed stacking in the first place. They disabled any hacks' ability to stack, but they left UMS makers with the ability to stack still (however, there was one way once known that no longer works).

Blizzard doesnt want to remove our mapping techniques, you see?

Ah, but that's the beauty of the ISOM section of a CHK file - it's required to tell the editor how to place terrain properly. But if the ISOM section is removed, StarEdit does place square terrain (actually it's more rectangular, but I think that's because of the brush size and shape rather than an inability to place squares individually). The moral is that without an ISOM section there is no way to detect which tiles are placed where. Even if Blizzard makes the presence of the ISOM section a requirement for StarCraft to run maps, we can get around it. You can place square terrain in SCMDraft and it keeps the ISOM section intact.

For your information, there is a way to place "bogus" terrain in regular StarEdit, no other editors are required. Here's an example: First, make a big batch of, say, Jungle terrain on the Jungle Tileset. Then, all in one click drag a straight wall of Temple terrain in the center of the Jungle area. Then go to your doodads and select the temple staircase, the one that allows units to walk up on top of Temple terrain. Maneuver it so that is made of fully green squares, and could be placed if you clicked. Then, without moving your mouse, press Ctrl-Z to undo the creation of the wall of Temple. The wall will disappear, but the doodad will still be placeable. Click to place it. It will look like nothing has happened, but don't worry. Press Ctrl-Z once to undo its invisible placement, and then Ctrl-Y to redo its placement. This time it actually shows up. And there you have it - you placed a temple staircase on Jungle terrain. Unfortunately, if you reopen the map in StarEdit it will say that there was an unplaceable doodad and restore it to just Jungle terrain. But if you do the trick, save, and play the map in StarCraft it will be there.

Who else knew about that trick?

Me.
Known it since I knew how to make bunkers invisible by moving them ...

wow, just think how many defense maps would be crushed if the new patch didnt let the bunkers shoot where they used 2 be.

Just think of how many people that will adapt, or even care about crappy defence maps?