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Whoa, whoa, whoa... let's discuss this like civilized adults (of course, assuming everyone here are under 18).

Americans are not all legal citizens. There are also "permanent residents" who do not have the "citizen" status, not to mention immigrants.

You shouldn't talk about the world in separate countries, much less "race". Isn't that what Starcraft taught us? We are all humans; fighting amongst ourselves is simply killing our race. Isn't that what the movie "Independence Day" has shown? Just when we're all bickering with our own kind, the aliens are going to come...

But then, the aliens of "Independence Day" kill to replenish their resources; tell me, what are the conflicts in Asia Minor and the Middle East about?

Funny, I recall you pointing fingers in some other thread 'round here.
So, please stop playin' the role model, 'cause you're no such thing.

Can't a guy even 'cuss a little of passed history that you have to come hammering about?



*Sigh* There goes to smithereens the intelligent debate I was talking about.
If you really look at the U.S. Gov's statistics site, you'll eventually see that Nozumu's right. Quit the itty bitty brat attitude, please.

As for me I'll go with Nozumu's post on historical reamrks adding a few of my own about wars involving Israel (from another place). *Steps out to search*

Edit add: '48 was the 1st one. The former U.N. delivered the territory to Jews (creating this way Israel) and some neighbour muslim nations around (Palestinians inluded), invaded it to stop it. It was foiled.
In 67, Syria n' Egypt were about to attack Israel. They (Israel) prevented that n' invaded earlier their airfields to stop it based in intel. They kept the territories invaded while striking as those opposite nations would, if it was the other way around.
'73 had another one. During the Easter time 4 jews, they (muslim nations again) attacked only to be stopped again.
It was another one only envolving Egypt n' it Suez channel. In that 1 Great Britain n' France joined Israel 'cause Egypt was putting didfficulties to Israeli passing ships through the channel. The U.S. stopped their invasion, aiding Egypt. In exchange the ships were to pass.

As many of you can see, the muslim nations weren't so 'pacific' towards Israel as they sometimes claim to be, hence the extreme moves that Israel sometimes made.

So it's the fault of the Serbian assassinators' fault to have killed the Austro-Hungary duke, causing WWI, whose end resulted in Germany's economical slump which the Nazis used to gain the support of the German people, followed by WWII, and leaving countless Jews without a home.

No, it wasn't! The human evil inside us all is what let people like Hitler rise in power and attempt genocide.

Hasn't anyone here read "Lord of the Flies"?

*Ugh* Circular inference logic. Slip, trip and derail in factoid arrangements all you want.

The only thing the WW1 had to do with the motives of a 2nd one are the humilliation Germany suffered signing the peace threaty, Hitler's lunacy in vendetta from that moment and few others.
The start of WW1 had nothing to do with your 'witty' assessment. That's the equivalent of me sayin' that the latest Iraq war was generated due to ending what 'daddy' started (but hasn't finished).

When 'cussing history, it's advisable to go by logic chunks.

Ok... take away the "humiliation", Hitler's "lunacy", and your "few others", and tell me if WW2 would have happened. "Only" would suggest that they had little to no relations.

How WW1 began was, in a nutshell, how I described it. I can't remember exactly what countries were involved (not that fluent in past European countries), but I do remember that the assassination caused the two opposing nations to "buddy up" with their allies, which is how it spread to a WORLD war.

The current Iraq war... if Dubya wasn't elected President in 2000, do you think it would be going on right now?

You're ignoring my last statements:

You still not understanding my point, PCFredZ is right, what I was trying to say is that an average American is a legal person/people living in the states, I thought that havin it be citizen would be self explanitory and then I remebered thats its 7 years you have to be in the United States (America w/e) for you to become a legal citizen. So I change my statement that an average American is a person who is LEGALLY living in America. Basan and Nozomu I think you guys are talking about majority and not average. You know average right? Where ya add every one up and divide by how many there are? Well you can't really do that becuase we ( talking to real americans ) are all average, regular working people. Nozomu your thinking technical majority numbers and Im talking about (well sort of numbered) fact.

And of the record is you really count up all the people who live in the United States legally and ilegally the different races might be closely numbered becuase of the many Hispanic immigrants. I use to live in Southern California, so I have first hand knowledge of this. And I also have been thinking that really America is North America+South America, so really if we are talking about the United States OF America then we should talk about it as the United Stated maybe??

Well, statistics does not only have a "mean" average, it also has something called "mode", which is simply the majority. If you add up everything and divide (aka, get the "mean"), you could end up something quite different when you're talking about the "average" American. How could you get an "average" legal status?

But wow, you did say "PCFredZ is right", I haven't seen that in a while.

my goodness. Calling Nozomu dumb? He actually has some very good points on some very good arguments. Which is saying something coming from someone with radically different views on many subjects, one of them being religon.

This is flaming and rude. Apologize.
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A matter of fact...if I get any more trouble from this thread, I'm closing it!

I blame the British for being retarded with the land and hastily doing all that stuff in the middle east without even getting the palestinians opinions when then they were the ones living there.

Btw the whole average american argument is pointless. Instead of saying average I would have said majority, and the point Nozomo was trying to make wasn't even about "average" americans it was just them getting populated by more Hispanics making hispanic the majority of the population. It doesnt matter what the original majority was. Though in America I think not being caucasian doesnt mean you aren't average or below anyone, because that is just racist bs.

Yeah, this is why I pretty much stopped looking at the Serious Discussion forum anymore, it's just full of the same old bickering.

I think that everyone is to blame for the Middle-East, because no one tried to help it.

Oh well, since we can't even talk about the Middle-East, gg, no rm.

*Edit* Ha ha FireKame, I beat you to it. I win!