I ahve a friend who played R games when he was 9. His mind hasn't been corrupted, and he doesn't think it's cool to kill people. Videogames don't make you psychotic. zThey don't encourage you to kill people. If you play StarCraft, you don't now want to command an army and create your own dominion then be taken out of power by someother groups and have your friends be infested. Bad example >.< but that's the basic idea. If I play Resident Evil or something, I won't become psychotic and think people are infected with the T-Virus and try to kill them all. SOmeone who gets like that from a videogame is someone who probably already ahs mental issues and problems, and that couldn't be helped.
Video games are usually rated with M, t , e , and other things not rated R lol thats movies !! Video games inprove hand eye coordination !!

i think..
Sorry n2o, but contrary to the popular belief (and once mine!), video games do not significantly increase hand-eye coordination. It's a shame

. Flute has shown me the error of my assumption.
But anyways, games without any type of violence are usually not made.
(because usually non-violence games are the puzzle games, which appeal to a small crowd) There are different levels of violence. From the very simple violence that usually isn't even THOUGHT of as violence (ever thought how much it would hurt if a plumber in blue overalls jumped on top of you?), to the brutal extremely realistic violence(Grand Theft Auto, Hollywoodized real life).
Excessive amounts of blood and violence never appealed to me. You say that higher rated violent games are for the older, more responsible people. You do realize what you just said is contradictory. From my perspective, the more mature people see video games and cartoons as
senseless violence and that there are many more things you could do on a saturday afternoon than play something as crude and barbaric as that. Therefore, why would older people be playing them?
Violence is a double-edged sword: It makes games somewhat more enjoyable and interesting (explosions are definately entertaining... why else do you think bounds were so trendy for so long???), but companies today (games and movies) are making it so violent that you become inured to violence.
(Inured means to become used to something you dislike. If you watched a video of your friend getting shot, a thousand times, sooner or later you would become completely de-sensitized to the violence.)P.S. And as for you Sir Well the Brit, you're lucky the Northern half of the Motherland has a way of manners, because for all we know the American the Army might make something OTHER than your army's coats to be red. (Yes i know.. you're shaking in your little panties

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"Theirs been a few good's and bad things about video game violence. They teach the minds of kids that killing is good. That violence of murder, killing, and teaching them how to handle such guns so well in life. Their are the good violence and the bad violence,
how do you see Video Game Violence as?"
Teach kids that killing is good? Hm. I don't think killing is good... neither do any of my friends. Wait... I take that back. Some, anyways...
Teaching them how to handle guns 'so well in life'? Personally, I wouldn't know how well people handle guns, but my prediction would be anything but good.
Anyways, personally, I see nothing wrong with it, though I don't like the idea of basing an entire game upon petty thievery, murdering random people for no apparent reason, and other such crap.
QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Feb 14 2005, 05:53 PM)
[justify]I don't think anyone who is mature and has a "un-corrupted" mind will think that the violence in video games is ok to do. If it was a little kid who did not understand much, I will agree that they might think it is ok to kill people and things like that. However older people who don't have any mental problems will not think that it is ok to do violent things like in their video games.[/justify]
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I play M games all the time, and I have never acted violent in my life. I don't even get into fights. I always manage to stay out of trouble. Same with my friends. Sure, we hit each other playfully sometimes. Keyword=playfully. We play games together all the time. Sometimes at my friends place, or mine, or even online. If we were having a birthday party and it was a sleepover we would go crazy and laugh and play...good times...goooood times...
nope nothing wrong with it unless if someone unsing games for training XD
"I read Architectural Digest but it doesn't make me wanna go out and build sh¡t."
ITS RANTING TIME!!

I play M rated games all the time! And you dont see me going out and shooting anybody dead! In my opinion, it's the parents fault for buying these 8 and 10 year olds games that are meant for adults. We do have ratings for a reason. A few months ago I was at my friends house and I saw his little 4 year old brother playing GTA 3... WHAT KINDA IMPRESSION IS THAT?! When I'm in a ranting mood, I go and take my anger out on some monster in Doom 3, not a real person. If the parents think that thier child is mature enough to not go out and commit mass murder, and buy the games, the parent is held responsible. Not the child. I think game violence should not be reduced because of this. I think it's fine where it is. If it really did influence people to go out and kill somebody, then every day the number of murders in the world would increase 10-fold. Hell, StarCraft would be considered violent, wouldnt it? "Im gonna go and nuke my ally, just cuz I feel like it." Sound familiar to any of you? In my opinion, parent should wisen up to the games out there. Dont let a 4 year old kid play violent games like GTA3, Doom 3, or any others. If a teenage is thought by his parents to be mature enough, so be it.

RANTING OVER!!
Mostly shooter games I play are either killing aliens(Halo) or there isn't much blood and gore(Delta Force: Black Hawk Down). What I think is that you shouldn't have games where you have to massacre fellow human beings. Aliens are okay, I think, as long as their blood isn't red. Halo isn't very gory, just bloody. Aside from flood part and blood stuff it might even be rated T, but that wouldn't be fun...

Sorry for the double post, but assassin_498 is TOTALLY right... I have been challenged to fight about 5 times before, and I have done none of them. NONE. Like him, my friends and I hit each other around just messing around, and granted, it was 3 AM, but we were just playing. If I went up to a random person in the streets and hit him, that would totally be something different.
Again, SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Feb 14 2005, 02:51 PM)
I'm apathetic when it comes to video game violence. I think its fine the way it is, just dont get any worse
but neways, should this be in General Gaming Forum? Cuz it is talking about games right?
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Aye it should.
>>General GamingGrand theft auto N.1 ?
lol, You never played MANHUNT ..That what i call a "gore game"
Hum apparently, somes young murderer are absolutly playing violent games. I think these days violence is like Porn. It's everywhere...
I think porn is hella more serious than violence.

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Feb 27 2005, 02:42 PM)
I think porn is hella more serious than violence.

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Haha yea.... NOT THAT I know um... anything ABOUT porn.... no... NOTHING AT ALL. I want to hear from somebody who thinks that games do encourage violence... This debate is pretty one-sided....
QUOTE(olaboy- @ Feb 14 2005, 06:04 PM)
Video games that are violent are intended to be played by older people who understand that it is not real and should not be recreated.
Some games though DO go way over board, I saw this game on the news in which yoou assassinate JFK over and over and over and you get scored on accuracy, bullets used, etc.
Finally I think that politicians' views on games such as Mortal Combat and Grand Theft Auto are stuid. Sure they ARE violent, but games aren't the cause of violence. Violence has been around since the world was created, NOT when video games were made. Politicians just use games as an easy excuse toward the growing violence when they SHOULD be concerned with things such as racism, lynchings, etc.
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I completely agree with you on this. i HATE when i hear on the news "what is ur kid playing" and stuffz like that! o no, a pattern of colors that form into a gun! But some games are alittle mental. Those news reports are for those parents that dont let their kid watch a PG13 movie til they r actually 13.

but 'sexual content' shouldnt be put in games at all... end of story.
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Haha yea.... NOT THAT I know um... anything ABOUT porn.... no... NOTHING AT ALL. I want to hear from somebody who thinks that games do encourage violence... This debate is pretty one-sided....
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What about this one???
I'm doing some research on how many ppl would choose agree or disagree or dont care for my debate for school means alot to me! and after u choose explain why!
I like video game violence. It shoves people's ignorance into their own faces when they see the consequences of others' reactions to it (school shootings being the obvious instance). I won't debate whether or not it was the cause of those instances, since frankly I don't care. I just think that anything that forces people away from their cozy blankets of ignorance and stupidity is a good thing.
The only problem though is that our damn mortality makes all the lessons learned go away in a generation or two.
I saw a news thing about this topic the other day and many people are trying to make the video game makers partly responsible for any crimes that had anything to do with a game the videogame makers made. Example: Kids see GTA3 guy blow some one up with a molotov cocktail. Goes out side and burns his friend to death by throwing a molotov cocktail on him or a school shooting.
BUT I believe that its the PARENT's responiblity to manage their own children and to know what games they are playing. The videos are rated and the violent ones are ment for adults. Just like movies, rated R movies are for adults and not children. So it should not be the video gamers fault for some idiot parent who doesn't manage their child.
Except that some children will go out of their way to avoid being detected doing such a thing.
And some parents will lie to other parents so as to aid children in doing this.
As in, if I were to secretly buy [R-Rated Movie], and went to my friend's house to watch it, I could have his dad tell mine that we're just watching cartoons or whatever.
Then there's a problem with what's 'violent'.
I don't see, or even hear of, kids eating mushrooms, then jumping on creature's heads...
Actually, I disagree...Video game viloence doesn't do anything to the child, The way the parent's treat there child, Is how there going to grow up, Not a stupid video game, The child know's, Its "ONLY" a video game, And you have lives.
i put dont care because who cares?? Video game violence will always be areound unless theirs a law that breaks the amendments...(which wont happen)
The poll question is... incorrect or...
Agree to what?
Violence is ok in Video games. That's where it should be.
Bruetal- you amaze me.
You already started a topic so much like this, it has the same name.
>Topics Merged<EDIT:
I lied. I don't have access to merge topics with a topic in another forum, because I only mod this one.
So instead of merged,
Topic...
BALETED!
*places sticky note on it saying "everything's fine"*
By the way, if someone with full access walks across this, feel free to merge this topic and here:
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=10848&st=0Edit II:
Thanks, moose.
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