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D-von and grizzly i agree with. They have all these stupid pictures and stupid colors changing and bad music and retarded terrain, ITS LIKE A TRIGGER TEST!

It's not a trigger test at all. Bounds have some of the most basic triggers in any map.

Pfft. I personally have never gotten into playing bounds. I personally like (good) RPGs and "Misc" maps like Worms.

Heck, the most fun I ever had were on maps like Bolt's House of the Haunted. Though it got boring after you figured out how to beat it.

Maybe we should have a big group od people who's jobs are to try out newly submitted maps and rate them. Or maybe even deleting ones who were from the "5-minute-a-map" factory.

i mean boundz are awesome but some people ruin bounds by putting stupid things in!

I don't mind bounds to a certain extent. I understand that most map makers start off with bounds (myself being one of them thanks to the first [K]nown productions) and they are great maps to use as a basic learning device. But then they are supposed to evolve and start working on other maps once they've figured out how the basic mechanics of the triggering system works. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of people who are still stuck on the idea that bounds are interesting when really it is all just the same redundant set of crap all over again.

I think it is time for people to stop crawling and learn to walk. Bounds wont die, and I don't think we should really look down upon them. I think we should, however, try to steer those "crawlers" toward a more progressive direction where they can make more than a simple create/kill map.

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And who really cares what tileset or music loop they put in? They are just trying to be creative (when rea;;y they're just conformists) so why take that away from them? I really don't think we should belittle bounds like this topic is doing.

Starcraft maps are by tradition, based on maps from previous games, and these are taken to other platforms.

most bounds are too hard, often players have just 1life
Id like to see the tricks, but I suck at bounds and never manage to pass levels higher than 3.
Every bound looks the same for me, some have gay music, which makes the map take incredible amount of time to dl (and I never play it again). Pictures are usually crappy and fun is minimal

I sometimes try bounds, to learn new mapmaking tricks, but well often I just dont see them, because I dont manage to pass the first obstacle. I make games and call them "xxx bound help me please" and the players who join suck more than me...

Authors should make some level skip options or something like that

If there were level skips, there wouldn't be much of a point... Whenever I play a bound, I don't want to skip all the levels, I want to play them and beat them... Maybe if ALL the people wanted to skip, because I've played bounds where the host could skip and he skipped every level to the end... It wasn't any fun.

And the way I got as good as I am at bounds is from mostly playing Bound Tournament 2. Whenever you play that, it gets your speed up. Chinese Bound Tournament X2 or normal is also good for getting your speed up. Then you should join a bounding clan and bound with the people. That's just if you want to get good at bounds, and like bounds... If you did join a bounding clan, I would recommend BnK- or [Ex] I would NOT join [BP],the leader doesn't take the clan seriously. It was my first clan, I worked my way up to leader, he didn't listen to my opinions, he let other people abuse their power with the bot (opping and banning random people).

If you want to bound with me, to see how good I am, get tips, or just to play... My names are BnK-Kain, Kain and Bounder, all at USWest I mostly use the BnK-Kain name.

I am sorry if I got out of topic... I don't mean to.. I don't think I am going out of topic. But different people have different opinions.

I play sc for fun, and if I ever wanted to play it for skill I would play melee competetively (I used to play on ladders), because playing bounds doesnt mean any fun for me, just clicks with good timing (and praying for no lag), I prefer melee becaue there are other aspects and bounds are simple. Of course I understand that some people may like them and winning a really hard bound may be fun, but still for me it's a waste of time

Playing bounds for me, as a "average" gamer is really frustrating, because they are simply too hard, repetitive and boring. It may be fun the first few times you try them, but then you play 2000 crappy maps.


what server do you play on? our cooperation would mean - you winning a bound and me staring at you
seriously Id like to see some replays of bounds, just to see some cool mapmaking tricks.
I have one bound with "black tiles turning to creep" (you probably know this trick, the last time I checked it wasnt in the faq, but I checked that section like 1 year ago) but I never managed to get to that round


the only bound I liked is "racers bound" - because players have unlimited amount of lifes and the obstacles are quite easy to pass, but still - I havent finished it...

the only two other bounds I remember is blutwurst (100rounds??) and gat bound (well made, nothing special), oh and there is this rr bound - I was told it has really interesting map tricks, I never passed the 3rd obstacle...

and when talking about frustrating bounds - I mean bounds like Time-up-bound, I only got to level 8 and mostly by random clicking
every bound with 1 life = crap IMO

As I said up there, my names are BnK-Kain, Bounder, and Kain, all on US WEST