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This is an issue of somewhat of importance for map makers making bound maps.

I don't think many map makers realize, that bound maps are virtually dead. They've had their peak popularity, and if you notice on battle.net, there are next to no games involving them.

I'm not against bounds, and we will continue to host them for as long as they are downloaded, but the amount of bound maps being made is still huge. The purpose of making that map is for other people to enjoy and play it, which doesn't happen anymore.

We sometimes play a random bound or two if we're in the mood at map night... but if you're making a bound, think about it carefully. There are far more popular genres of map making to explore.

This rantish message was brought to you by Chu, who was too lazy to make up a quick news post for the past three days

Bounds do get boring but they are useful in games! Right now I'm combing Bounds and defence and RPG in one map!

I'm not talking about "useful" I'm talking about popularity.

Bounds are popular, there's clans that are just for bounding, and we play bounds alot, even though you don't see them out there. We usually play them privately.
I don't think bounds are dead yet, whenever I host a bound publicly, people join.
And, there's alot of "HEAVEN BOUND PROS JOIN" which shouldn't be, if you ask a newb bounder what their favorite bound is, you will most likely get a "Heaven Bound" or "Bubble Bound" but still, they're popular bounds. Maybe it is dying on east, but it's not dying on west... yet

[center]Bounds have been dying for a long time, but I doubt they'll ever go away completly. It seems that most people new to map making like to make bound type maps, because they're quite easy.[/center]

Whats the point of this post? I don't want to hear peoples opinions about what styles of maps are In or Out. All your doing is trying to influance the tides by making people belive there one way or the other.

You might as well make a post saying "the current fad is RPGs so if you arn't making one your going to be a failer". And lastly, don't make maps for other people.

Well currently most of the maps comming through the DLDB are bounds. But most of the maps on bnet are NOT bounds. I wonder why that is.

I really wanted to make a much bigger rant than this and post it in the Map showcase forum or something.

Kain, there will be clans for every type of map because there will be enthusiasts for every kind of map.

Follow Moose. He knows the trends

Stop comparing Staredit Network to some other news site... I always said that SEN was never a news site, and informal. I'm stating facts that map makers should hear, because some are wondering why their bound maps are not being played. Here is the reason.

You're right though, bounds may make a huge comeback and end up being the most popular genre. However, as it stands, these are the facts.

If i had my way all bounds would be deleted from the DLDB , lucky for you bounding guys i dont

That makes 2 of us.

I don't think we want most of the maps that are played on b.net on staredit because if you think about it alot of them are preverted sexy picture and other such maps or else just really stupid badly made maps and some madnesses. I still see alot of bounds played... but I would agree this site does seem to have a huge number of bounds compared to other maps. I personally groan when I see more and more new threads in the map creation forum about the bound they are making which will totally own.

Combining bounds into rpgs/other stuff usually works out well so whoever said they were doing that keep it up .

I agree with bolt all the way and it's true.
Plus, maybe the people who are still making bounds are doing it for themselves and not to because they might get popular or famous. People have a right to make their own maps for their own personal reasons. ( mine is because its fun )
ill make any kind of map even if it's out or in or really retarted as long as i feel like making it lol, its what map making is all about bro.

And you have a rabbit with a waffle on it's head as avatar.
Catch my drift?

Why should it matter what is popular? "What is popular is not always right" afterall. And if you truelly enjoy making bound maps, more power to ya.

I've raised a cruel critical community. Stop questioning my news posts with intellegent feedback! lol

-We can all see this isn't true anymore... so this post wasn't really nessecary...,

Its only the New age bounds that are kinda .. loads of crap... the old bounds like bam bound, chobo bound, screamo-kid's bounds... i think were better than these new bounds coming out ...

But Bounds are not dead...

Like someone said.... Bounds are still "popular" in West... Theres alot of Clans for Bounding.... Clan [Ex], Clan BoA_, Clan BnK, and Clan .Com. Ionno about East
But Bounds will probly last forever. Hey sometimes bounding may get boring, I play def games for a while then Bounding is fun again! lol

Bounds were the old crazy, and now all of you are doing RPG's, so whats new? RPG's are just that little bit harder, but you'll still all doing them.

i can rember when bounds were big because they were still some what new

but now people put those lame pictures in their bounds to make them look cool but really they do nothing but add to the download time(null psace is needed)

also how people use those STUPID tile sets i mean come on shure its a marine dieing but its lame!!!


then theres the disabled units and units made after friends and such those are also stupid lags up the game when you have them telaporting around and moving


so anyway dont fight to rebirth bounds people they had their time there will still be bounds for you to play every onces and a while because we all need to laugh at some noob that dose a "noob dash" (dont look at me )


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Though bounds did allow people to create many features and add-ons to Starcraft that before just weren't tried or done, or rather was it just there at the right time for the programs to do it? [Eg; Starforge and SCMDraft]

for me bounds have to be about content, not what they are about now. bounds now are about lame pictures, lame terrain, and lame music. you get bounds with all of the above and like 10 difficult levels, wow that's lame. It's all about like NFC-Blutwurst bounds, fun, goofy, and lots of levels. 200 levels in 1 bound, yum! No F*cking Clan Blutwurst owns

I liked old school bounds with the big levels and ISOM edit terrain lol. not new with pictures and music, and hard as hell levels, kingdom hearts bound 2, meh to you red2blue!

I wouldnt call bounds 'out'. but i did leave for a year and when i came back there was a small diference but bounds WILL live on! they are reallly fun!

-LastShawtAznBoi, cool avatar and sig

Bounds aren't dead at all, its just that only a few maps are being played, but those that are being played are popular. There are dozens of bounds but most are crap and only a few are actually played on bnet. I think most people don't like bounds is because too many of them are really bad and trying to be fancy with a picture taking up half the map and stupid trigger tricks. Most of the bounds being played are classics

Totally agree. Blutwurst was amazing at creating fun maps. I've tried to follow in his footsteps by focusing on the fun of the game and a sweet brief. I hate bounds that are 95% a big picture that people just copied and pasted and then a few stupidly hard levels squished into stupidly small 1x1 squares, that you might just get the timing right for if you played at 0.1 times the speed and used all of the 1000 lives they gave you to start with. No wonder people are getting bored of bounds.

Luckily there are still people who know how to make a fun bound and I credit these people for there efforts.

Yoshi an idea would be to get a moderator to distinguish between quality bounds and "i've made a map in ten seconds" bounds, as to give the people who spent time on their maps to have the chance to be noticed. I know there'll probably be lots of problems with this suggestion, but who knows you might find a way to do it, hell you made this amazing network afterall....

Bounds are usually only good for new ideas. Unfourtinately, there are no new ideas.

It's just because people simply do not want to play bounds. Obviously, it's boring. Every bound is the same.