Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-13 at 15:13:36
So, if you're sorry you did it, then that makes it right? If I killed you and said I was sorry - and meant it - it would be ok?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 15:23:08
Gosh you guys are hard to please. You aren't thinking in terms of God. You can't just SAY I am sorry. You must mean it. Don't you people understand what that means!!! And yes if you killed me and in your heart TRULY meant you didn't mean to, you would be forgiven. By your tone and the words you typed you wouldn't be forgiven because you obviously WEREN'T sorry. It would be like me saying "I am going to kill you. Oops your dead. God forgive me I killed him." That isn't right and I wouldn't be forgiven. Try to think of it on a religous plane of thought. Instead of just trying to be dumb and anrrow-minded(sorry I am getting furious at people not listening) If any one else understands what I mean and isn't going to be stupid about it can you try to help him understand. I have a problem with wording things. Maybe a different example would help them to understand.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-13 at 15:28:10
Chill: yea, pretty much. If you meant it, and apologised to God
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-03-13 at 15:31:46
Fine. I understand. You need to feel like someone has forgiven you for something that you've done, even if nobody else will.
Theoretical example:
You murder somebody. You get paroled after a certain number of years, and your time in prison makes you repentant. You are truly sorry and repent both to God and the family of the person you killed.
The family refuses to forgive. In fact, nobody wants to forgive you. Does God forgive you?
Theoretical example:
You murder somebody. You get paroled after a certain number of years, and your time in prison makes you repentant. You are truly sorry and repent both to God and the family of the person you killed.
The family refuses to forgive. In fact, nobody wants to forgive you. Does God forgive you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 15:41:36
Yes captain thank you for those words. That is what I mean yes. God WILL forgive you if you truly meant it. Which usually apologizing to the people who you hurt means that you are truly sorry. So yes in your example, god will forgive you(although I am pretty sure the family would too....) I mean come on if your member was killed and the person after all those years came back and found you and was crying and all that and you could tell he was truly sorry and apologized, if you didn't forgive that person I would be shocked and you would have to be a pretty cruel person. Now if the person DIDN'T come to you and apologize I could see how being angry might be the case. Anyways, yes thank you for putting it in better words, that is what I meant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Axellraff on 2005-03-14 at 13:22:26
Do you re-birth indesciveman? (Jhn.3:3)... 
Are-you born Christians?
Are-you born Christians?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2005-03-21 at 00:11:21
QUOTE(MinigameEast @ Mar 12 2005, 06:34 PM)
for one reason people steal alot, lie alot, and swear alot.
if you go to church every wendsday and sunday your suppose to be a religous person. if you do your suppose to follow and obey the ten commandments.
plus the racist thing. whats up with that? if your a christian your not suppose to be a racist to anything.
so you cant be a christain and an athiest at the same time becuace you cant.
so if you broke many laws and the ten commandments, god isnt going to help you becuace you sin so much that it cant be fixed. more likly your an athiest if you do alot of crime.
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if you go to church every wendsday and sunday your suppose to be a religous person. if you do your suppose to follow and obey the ten commandments.
plus the racist thing. whats up with that? if your a christian your not suppose to be a racist to anything.
so you cant be a christain and an athiest at the same time becuace you cant.
so if you broke many laws and the ten commandments, god isnt going to help you becuace you sin so much that it cant be fixed. more likly your an athiest if you do alot of crime.
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Hey comrade, I don't believe in god or satan. I don't care for sins, Also, I don't break any laws, I respect the Government's laws, but church shit. I don't give a
ing shit about it. I say, the Government should get rid of the useless, church stuff across the country.Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-03-21 at 18:41:02
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WHAT DO U CALL A STRAIGHT RELIGOUS PERSON
Isn't it obvious? Straight (heterosexual) religious people are called Republicans.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-21 at 18:44:40
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Isn't it obvious? Straight (heterosexual) religious people are called Republicans.
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If that's what republicans are.... then what are democrats?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-21 at 18:54:55
holy crap this is old. but we still talk about it getting of topic.
well i guess indecisiveman took over my post.
everyone has an opinion but we should respect things that we say
thats a BIG no no.
ok i got another question?
should there be a law that gives a limit amount of chances like 3 strkes and your out. well let me say it more clearly if a person goes to jail 3 times should he be in there for life or 3 times as longer. becuace i think it stupid to let out a guy that hasnt paid his parking tickets or did lots of drugs, should they stay there 10 times as much days than there supossed to becauce there going to do it again anyways.
well i guess indecisiveman took over my post.
everyone has an opinion but we should respect things that we say
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Hey comrade, I don't believe in god or satan. I don't care for sins, Also, I don't break any laws, I respect the Government's laws, but church shit. I don't give a ing shit about it. I say, the Government should get rid of the useless, church stuff across the country.
thats a BIG no no.
ok i got another question?
should there be a law that gives a limit amount of chances like 3 strkes and your out. well let me say it more clearly if a person goes to jail 3 times should he be in there for life or 3 times as longer. becuace i think it stupid to let out a guy that hasnt paid his parking tickets or did lots of drugs, should they stay there 10 times as much days than there supossed to becauce there going to do it again anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-21 at 18:55:11
Not religious?
EDIT: To army.
EDIT: To army.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-21 at 18:56:30
ok lets make it more religious what happens if a deep christian doesnt pay its parking tickets or does drugs. should he be in jail longer for lying to god?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-21 at 19:01:07
If he's very very sorry and asks for God's forgiveness, then God would be ok with it. But as far as the jail thing goes, then no.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-03-21 at 19:15:12
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If that's what republicans are.... then what are democrats?
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The people smart and strong enough to question things. And some of the gays and people we support because we believe in equal rights.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-21 at 19:28:52
Ok i seem to be getting the message here that democrats are "better" people than the republicans... 
If true, then i strongly disagree. I believe both parties are equally "knowledgeable" and "good."
If true, then i strongly disagree. I believe both parties are equally "knowledgeable" and "good."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-03-21 at 19:33:07
QUOTE(MinigameEast @ Mar 12 2005, 06:34 PM)
if you go to church every wendsday and sunday your suppose to be a religous person.
Religious -Christian-. Secondly, Wednesday? WTFage?
And, seriously, please tell me who taught you about Christianity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by iamacow on 2005-03-21 at 19:37:34
Just to toss my opinion out, I understand what you are saying about the forgiveness and repent stuff, but to me it doesn't make sense. I just don't like the idea that you can repent for anything if you are truly sorry and ask for forgiveness, it just seems weird to me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-21 at 19:45:49
i barely got taught by teachers from sunday school so im asking people whats thgere opinion abvout things that we havent heard in church before
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-21 at 19:48:19
Because God knows we're all sinners. We all sin, we all do bad things/get irrational. We should all be going to hell for that. But
"for God so loved the world he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
- John 3:16
So God sent Jesus down to die for our sins, meaning he's taking our punishment for us (which for us would've been hell). Now all that he asks for in return is for us to believe in him. And if we do happen to continue our sinful nature (which we are all bound to do) just ask for his forgiveness and he shall condone your sin.
"for God so loved the world he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
- John 3:16
So God sent Jesus down to die for our sins, meaning he's taking our punishment for us (which for us would've been hell). Now all that he asks for in return is for us to believe in him. And if we do happen to continue our sinful nature (which we are all bound to do) just ask for his forgiveness and he shall condone your sin.