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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-26 at 16:05:37
Attacking North Korea is just dumb, I think we all agree on that. North Korea hasn't done anything and America doesn't even have to worry about that nuke.
There is nothing to be gained from attacking North Korea except death. More Americans would die because North Koreans are born as military weapons, it would be like asking them to nuke someone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-03-26 at 17:28:23
Hmmm, let's think about this. They have a nuclear weapon, and since we're all big and macho, we somehow have the right to command every other nation to do our bidding? I think not. I am not a hick, I am an American. If we are going to take them by force, we mine as well take all other nuclear weapon-wielding nations by force as well. I mean, it would only be fair. Who are we to be the dictators of the world?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-26 at 19:59:11
Yes, we should kick as much ass as possible. disgust.gif
I am sick and tired of people bashing America, doesn't any one remember how much money America donated for tsunami victems? America donated the more then any other country. When America does invade a country it is for a GOOD CAUSE, NOT TO RULE OVER THAT COUNTRY, NO TO ENSLAVE THAT COUNTRY. Lets take Iraq, iraqi civilians were ebing gassed and killed everyday about Saddam and his rule. So America went in a kicked his ass, freed Iraqis from fear of death and tyranny. And for our reward we are getting some oil from Iraq. So every one please stfu and stopping bashing America, if we really wanted to take over your countries we would have done it by now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pimpinelephant on 2005-03-27 at 06:03:45
Go S.T.A.R.S-Chris!!! That was awesome!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2005-03-27 at 07:18:59
If they have nukes? How come their not using it for like threats or expend their country? Or they might be using nukes for only defenses. Cause, N. Koreans hates us too. They teach their kid comrades into hating Americans. How come they haven't threaten us yet? Or threaten the other countries around N. Korea? They must be planning something else.

QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Mar 26 2005, 07:59 PM)
Yes, we should kick as much ass as possible.  disgust.gif
I am sick and tired of people bashing America, doesn't any one remember how much money America donated for tsunami victems?  America donated the more then any other country.  When America does invade a country it is for a GOOD CAUSE, NOT TO RULE OVER THAT COUNTRY, NO TO ENSLAVE THAT COUNTRY.  Lets take Iraq, iraqi civilians were ebing gassed and killed everyday about Saddam and his rule.  So America went in a kicked his ass, freed Iraqis from fear of death and tyranny.  And for our reward we are getting some oil from Iraq.  So every one please stfu and stopping bashing America, if we really wanted to take over your countries we would have done it by now.
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Uh, Correction. The japs donated more than us. censored.gif ing japs, making us look bad.

QUOTE(pimpinelephant @ Mar 26 2005, 04:09 AM)
I am South Korean, i voted no but i do believe that sooner or later we should invade North Korea because they are showing us that they are an actual threat with their nuclear weapons and the fact that they are communist. i voted no because if we did then all the countries that are with North Korea, mainly all the other communist countries, would fight with North Korea against the U.S.A. which would probably erupt into a World War III.
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The China doesn't like North Korea, and looky here. China are Communists! I'm not sure about Vietnam will be on it's side though, Maybe the samething with the Cubans too.

QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Mar 24 2005, 06:24 AM)
I say we don't because Bush doesn't know how to run an army worth a damn so we'll just end up getting sneak attacked until we have nothing.

Besides, the only thing they did was get 1 nuke.  Notice it was a NUKE not an atomic weapon.  If it was atomic, we'd be  censored.gif ed.  Or hydrogen... then we'd just go absolutely nucking futs...

nuke < a-bomb < hydrogen bomb

Hydrogen Bomb = Fusion Core Energy Release = The biggest boom we can make with our tech.

Hopefully North Korea doesn't get that kind of tech...
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Hey, Nuke is better than the A-Bomb or Hydrogen Bomb. We know that the nuke is stronger than those 2. Nukes are the biggest Booms we can make with our technolgy dumbass, not the Hydrogen Bomb. Why don't you think we haven't tested a Nuclear Missile yet. USA is too afirad to test it cause it might make a huge explode.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-27 at 10:21:31
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Yes, we should kick as much ass as possible.
I am sick and tired of people bashing America, doesn't any one remember how much money America donated for tsunami victems? America donated the more then any other country. When America does invade a country it is for a GOOD CAUSE, NOT TO RULE OVER THAT COUNTRY, NO TO ENSLAVE THAT COUNTRY. Lets take Iraq, iraqi civilians were ebing gassed and killed everyday about Saddam and his rule. So America went in a kicked his ass, freed Iraqis from fear of death and tyranny. And for our reward we are getting some oil from Iraq. So every one please stfu and stopping bashing America, if we really wanted to take over your countries we would have done it by now.

Did you bother to look at any other posts here? No one has "bashed America". We DONATED (Note: DONATED) That money. As in we gave it to our friends, as in you know little or nothing about politics or just charity. North Koreans don't experience a life of death, because that is thier life itself. They hate America and if we go kill thier dictator they will just hate us more, this isn't the Iraq scenario Mr. I joined the army so I want to kill people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-03-27 at 11:22:34
Dude, if we have war against them, Korean-Americans will go to jail for no reason cuz they might have something to do with the war. That would be just like WW2 abaout Japan.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-03-27 at 13:19:45
No, we have policies in effect to prevent discriminatory stuff like that from happening. Though social prejudices will be unavoidable (general ignorance, you know).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-27 at 23:21:15
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Mar 27 2005, 07:21 AM)
Did you bother to look at any other posts here? No one has "bashed America". We DONATED (Note: DONATED) That money. As in we gave it to our friends, as in you know little or nothing about politics or just charity. North Koreans don't experience a life of death, because that is thier life itself. They hate America and if we go kill thier dictator they will just hate us more, this isn't the Iraq scenario Mr. I joined the army so I want to kill people.
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Wow, did you read my post carefully? I stated donated TWICE....pretty hard to miss. And I joined the Army so I can protect your little ass so you can continue to post here behind your computer with freedom. Actually I think aE-Felagund's last post about how we think we are soo tough, thats bashing America to me, I know hes American. And I think you know way too little about what is actually going on over there in the Asia Minor+Asia+MIddle east -- you don't know whats fact and whats not. Oh ya I was also using Iraq as an EXAMPLE buddy, read carefully before to reply.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-03-28 at 06:03:39
Sure we could obliterate their entire country with a couple nukes or so, but there's a chance it might blow some of China or S.Korea as well. Not only that, but the US would suffer more damage if both countries managed to launch missiles at each other.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-28 at 21:10:15
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Wow, did you read my post carefully? I stated donated TWICE....pretty hard to miss. And I joined the Army so I can protect your little ass so you can continue to post here behind your computer with freedom. Actually I think aE-Felagund's last post about how we think we are soo tough, thats bashing America to me, I know hes American. And I think you know way too little about what is actually going on over there in the Asia Minor+Asia+MIddle east -- you don't know whats fact and whats not. Oh ya I was also using Iraq as an EXAMPLE buddy, read carefully before to reply.

1. Donated TWICE oooh, I made such a mistake that it makes my whole post irrelevant, no need to correct little errors.
2. Excuse me? I live in Korea, you aren't protecting anything but your behind from terrorists. BTW Iraq is NOT, I repeat NOT, going to take over America.
3. I am not felagund.
4. I know more about what is going on in Asia than you.
5. That is what I pointed out, you used something completely different as an example, "buddy".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-28 at 23:45:02
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Mar 28 2005, 06:10 PM)
1. Donated TWICE oooh, I made such a mistake that it makes my whole post irrelevant, no need to correct little errors.
2. Excuse me? I live in Korea, you aren't protecting anything but your behind from terrorists. BTW Iraq is NOT, I repeat NOT, going to take over America.
3. I am not felagund.
4. I know more about what is going on in Asia than you.
5. That is what I pointed out, you used something completely different as an example, "buddy".
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woooopppsss, Im sorry i didn't know you lived in korea....Oh ya if you were actually smart you would realize there is about a million american mines inbetween South Korea and North Korea so stfu we aren't protecting you is bull shit and you know it. I geuss in your mind all those American Army bases in South Korea don't exist right? Did you even know that as a joke some american military men hit golf balls over the border at North Korean army patrol men and the North Koreans (if hit) can't do antyhing about it!? Yea, Iraq shows what the INTENT of America is/defending against people who hate America/bash it, which I used as an EXAMPLE to defend American interests. So STFU. The whole point of Iraq was to free the people and get some oil, and no matter how hard North Korea tries it will never beable to take over America, wow I know they have 1 or at most 10 nukes!!! WOW BIG DEAL-- We have over 1,000! You know very little about the American Army/navy/airforce, you also don't live in America as I do and you get your crap politics off manipulated News. Also, don't tell me if I know little about politics, the only time I would take advice from you about politics is if South Korea is the most powerful nation on earth because then you would know something about politics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-03-29 at 17:45:30
I say we don't invade north korea. If we invade, would it be worth the risk of say, Los Angeles being nuked?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-29 at 19:00:03
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woooopppsss, Im sorry i didn't know you lived in korea....Oh ya if you were actually smart you would realize there is about a million american mines inbetween South Korea and North Korea so stfu we aren't protecting you is bull shit and you know it.

Did you know, that no one will bother going to North Korea? Did you know, that Nk and Sk is divided by a river? Did you know that putting military camps isn't going to do anything for the mines?
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So STFU.

Just blind flaming, did I flame you even once in this whole argument?
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America is/defending against people who hate America/bash it

Wow... you need to brush up on some information.
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and no matter how hard North Korea tries it will never beable to take over America

THAT is WHY we shouldn't attack them.
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You know very little about the American Army/navy/airforce

You did not even read my post I am guessing from this. Because I am for NOT attacking Nk and you ARE.
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you also don't live in America as I do and you get your crap politics off manipulated News.

Are you being biased against South Koreans? Let me tell you right now, the majority of Asians are more honest than Americans and that I not being biased.
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the only time I would take advice from you about politics is if South Korea is the most powerful nation on earth because then you would know something about politics.

Wow, you are utterly biased. America is not some kind of holy mega continent you know. Do you imply that South Koreans know nothing about politics? More like YOU don't know anything about politics. You don't know anything about the geography of Korea. You don't know anything about the nuke made by North Korea. You don't know anything at all. That may seem a little rough but I am just directing your style of posting back on you so try reflecting on yourself before you post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-30 at 02:34:02
mmmmmm I know nothing about geography of the Koreas? I did a little test in paint -- I tried making North and South Korea with out looking at any sources, just using my mind.

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This is what I got, I only used straight lines so curves are ignored and so are the many little cut-ins in the land region.

Now heres the real region:
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Mmmmm I messed up a little on South Korea, but what ever its fairly accurate in my opinion.

And as for the river dividing north and south Korea, theres a little thing called the Demilitarization Zone this is 1.2 miles on either side of the Military Demarcation line which divides North and South Korea.....There is mines in that zone buddy wink.gif .

And it is funny when you replied that "THAT is WHY we shouldn't attack them" ... strange I thought you were Korean and lived in Korea......

Yes, the majority of Asians are honest, but what does that have to do with politics? Politics is a dirty game of lies and jealousy and such. Also, the majority of Asians are against America's involvment in the Middle East and that is becuase they are ill-educated on the INTENT and PURPOSE of our involvment over there. They get crap-biased facts and I am merely trying to Educate! wink.gif Such as America wants to spread freedom in Iraq, and as a reward we get some oil from Iraq, we want to make the world a safer place and we want to make our selfs safer too.

Oh, I know about the nuke in Korea, I would know a nuke when I see one wink.gif don't forget Im American (we got about 1,500 more then any one else!)! This is why this whole topic was posted!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-03-30 at 16:50:25
I say we should just leave North Korea alone; they haven't really done anything bad yet. If they do decide to launch nukes at us, there's no other choice but to invade. If we do invade, we have to get it right the first time so that it doesn't devolve into an Iraq-like mess.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-03-30 at 19:03:52
QUOTE(Nozomu @ Mar 23 2005, 10:17 PM)
If we attacked North Korea, Kim Jong-Il would nuke South Korea (our ally, for the uninformed idiots spouting opinions in this thread).  Kim jong-Il is insane, so don't expect him to act rationally.
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how about we wait for him to die or assasinate him with a german hitman
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-31 at 01:42:53
The only reason why we are afraid is becuase we told north korea NOT to make a nuke and they did it any way. PLus we are afraid they will sell that nuke to terrorists or other countries that America is not too fond of. We just don't like the idea of nuclear weapons that are missing and the thought of not knowing where every single nuke in the world is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-03-31 at 19:38:35
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how about we wait for him to die or assasinate him with a german hitman
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Waiting for Kim Jong-Il to die of old age or natural causes is impractical; he might live a very long time, like his father Kim Il-Sung, who ruled North Korea for 46 years until he died (1948-1994). And does it have to be a German hitman? A hitman from any other country will do just fine.

Maybe, just maybe, there might be a military coup led by an ambitious North Korean general, but I just don't see anything along the lines of that in the near or the distant future. Besides, Kim Jong-Il's generals might be just as insane as he is or even worse.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-31 at 22:36:31
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And as for the river dividing north and south Korea, theres a little thing called the Demilitarization Zone this is 1.2 miles on either side of the Military Demarcation line which divides North and South Korea.....There is mines in that zone buddy  .

Uh huh... A North Korean will bother swimming across a river for no apparant reason to get blow up by a mine, I don't think so.
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And it is funny when you replied that "THAT is WHY we shouldn't attack them" ... strange I thought you were Korean and lived in Korea......

I am half American also, I was born in Korea, grew up in America, and moved back to Korea. Sounds strange but that's what happened
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They get crap-biased facts and I am merely trying to Educate!

What is that supposed to mean? You want to shoot a Korean because they get thier facts mixed up?
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Oh, I know about the nuke in Korea, I would know a nuke when I see one  don't forget Im American (we got about 1,500 more then any one else!)! This is why this whole topic was posted!

This whole topic was to explain if AMERICA should attack NK or not and we shouldn't BECAUSE they only have no nuke and show no harm to America.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-04-01 at 01:28:51
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Mar 31 2005, 07:36 PM)
Uh huh... A North Korean will bother swimming across a river for no apparant reason to get blow up by a mine, I don't think so.

I am half American also, I was born in Korea, grew up in America, and moved back to Korea. Sounds strange but that's what happened

What is that supposed to mean? You want to shoot a Korean because they get thier facts mixed up?

This whole topic was to explain if AMERICA should attack NK or not and we shouldn't BECAUSE they only have no nuke and show no harm to America.
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River dealo: Thats the point! If North Koreans, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, cross that river and land on the South Korean side, they will run into mine fields! American mine fields that is, plus its for Anti-Vehicle movement.

Where did shoot come in? Im talking about how most asians believe in false facts about the intent of America due to miss leading facts on bad reporting and how I want to try and educate them on the correct facts. That doesn't just go with Koreans my friend...

No nuke? I bet you ment ONE nuke. And how do YOU know its only one? Sure we got reports that North Korea had made A nuke, that doesn't mean since then North Korea hasn't made more. Developing from scratch a nuclear bomb is hard, once made it is easier to make another one quicker. I bet there is more then one in North Korea right now, but no one knows for sure. And North Korea presenting no threat to the US? Since they have a nuke is why they are now a threat! And did you even read my earlier posts? North Koreans may not nuke us, but they could SELL their nuke to terrorist groups for a high price to profite their own country, which is common, but on smaller scale. And then those terrorists will nuke the US. THATS WHY North Korea is a problem to America.


Alright I have wasted enough time with Jet_Blast becuase he obviously doesn't know his own country well enough and such. Back on top, I think America should invade North Korea with Special Op type units, like sleeper cells for America. Just to keep in check North Korea. If North Korea trys to sell a nuke, our spec. op. boys will move in and take care of it. But........ If America really wanted to we could crush the North Korean Military and Nuclear/science labs and take out Kim Jong-Il and replace him with a better, kinder, sane leader and then pull out. North Korea is fine economicly for us to pull out of, Iraq=shitty economic condition+no government to thats why America has to stay and set up things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2005-04-01 at 09:56:16
uhh.. i dont understand why you think asian news sources are so biased, b/c americas are like the most biased in the democratic world. if you want REAL new, get it from BBC.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-04-02 at 11:20:51
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River dealo: Thats the point! If North Koreans, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, cross that river and land on the South Korean side, they will run into mine fields! American mine fields that is, plus its for Anti-Vehicle movement.

1. North Koreans only cross the river to have a better life in South Korea, mines aren't going to make them very happy.
2. There are spots with no mine fields, I have been to the river, there is buildings at the very edge of the river on both sides.
3. Cars don't run through water.
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No nuke? I bet you ment ONE nuke. And how do YOU know its only one?

They do not have the money, OR materials, to get another nuke.
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Im talking about how most asians believe in false facts about the intent of America due to miss leading facts on bad reporting and how I want to try and educate them on the correct facts. That doesn't just go with Koreans my friend...

And I am saying you are utterly biased and do not know that America is the most biased place there is. Meaning you are just being biased against Asians.
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Alright I have wasted enough time with Jet_Blast becuase he obviously doesn't know his own country well enough and such.

Sounds like you, but I have intent to actually FINISH the argument.
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Alright I have wasted enough time with Jet_Blast becuase he obviously doesn't know his own country well enough and such. Back on top, I think America should invade North Korea with Special Op type units, like sleeper cells for America. Just to keep in check North Korea. If North Korea trys to sell a nuke, our spec. op. boys will move in and take care of it. But........ If America really wanted to we could crush the North Korean Military and Nuclear/science labs and take out Kim Jong-Il and replace him with a better, kinder, sane leader and then pull out. North Korea is fine economicly for us to pull out of, Iraq=shitty economic condition+no government to thats why America has to stay and set up things.

Your radical ideas disagree with the majority here on SEN (Plus they are shitty.) so you shouldn't flame whoever disagrees with you.







BTW! America is not the best place in the world, Japan is, GG PWNED.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-04-02 at 11:39:58
For all its hardships, idiotic president, etc. I am still proud to call myself an American.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-04-02 at 12:49:40
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1. North Koreans only cross the river to have a better life in South Korea, mines aren't going to make them very happy.
2. There are no mine fields, I have been to the river, there is buildings at the very edge of the river on both sides.
3. Cars don't run through water.

They do not have the money, OR materials, to get another nuke.

And I am saying you are utterly biased and do not know that America is the most biased  place there is. Meaning you are just being biased against Asians.

Sounds like you, but I have intent to actually FINISH the argument.

Your radical ideas disagree with the majority here on SEN (Plus they are shitty.) so you shouldn't flame whoever disagrees with you.
BTW! America is not the best place in the world, Japan is, GG PWNED.
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So you have been to EVERY SINGLE INCH of the border? you probably went to one or two citys on the border. The Demilitarization zone is about 2.4 miles wide (up and down of the border), and DUH cars can't go through water, way to go! You stated the obvious. Its called bridges, amphibious landing vehicles, BOATS. To move a large army you need SPACE, and in the areas that have open space on the border there are mine fields, here is PROOF there are mine fields in Korea Proof website in the article when they state 'DMZ' it means DeMilitarization Zone. And if thats not enough for you just go to google and type in 'Mines in Korea' and it will give you a billion articles.

PWNED, you don't even know your own country hahahahaha!!!

and 'GG" this isn't a game....this is REAL life buddy, it scares me that you sound like you are relating this to a game which is sick...really.

And what does America being Baised have to do with Korea? What does me have to do with North Korea? I am just saying all America should do is invade North Korea with Spec. Op. teams that we have. To make sure North Korea doesn't sell that nuke to the wrong hands/people America fears will nuke us. And this can go with what you said about North Korea not having the money or matrials to build another nuke.

Oh, I didn't know argueing with you is flaming.....
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