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Finally you guys are asking questions and being less of a flamer. Well Chill, you see He didn't HAVE to make it seven days. What He is doing is setting up our week for us. Umm, to better explain it, He could have made everything in an instant. But He was making the point of what our week should be. That is one of my beliefs on that. In the Bible it doesn't say He "needed" seven days, just that He made everything in that time. Get it now? Keep up the good questions, this topic is becoming what I wanted it to be in the first place.

And God rested on the seventh day, correct? Why did he need to rest?

Full of questions are we? lol. Well that is good. He rested because it is telling us that the last day of the week is meant to relax and sit back. Later on(after the line where it says He rested) it says He blessed the seventh day and sanctified it(which is why on Sunday we go to church). So to answer your question, in all truth, I don't think He HAD tor est, He was merely using it as an example to show us when to Praise Him. Well that is my opinion, along witha little evidence form the Bible.

it is on Saturday we should go to Church not Sunday. Look at the calandar and see. Christianity changed it by the dozen

On any basis of Christianic discussion your going to get disputes like these because you have someone that dismisses the existance of Dragons, because thats too intangible to be real, but says there is a being of all supreme power that cant be wrong, watches everyone all at the same time and theres nothing he cant do.

W/e these christians are taking I want some, I want some of that good stuff thats gonna suck my intelligence, logic and all common sense outa my head, and make me so happy to believe when I die it doesnt matter because I will be in a place of never-ending happiness and wont have to do anything i dont like anymore, well as long as i dont piss god off, that is.

There are recordings of dragons in almost every culture across the world, and most having no contact with each other when the recordings started, but "Dragons cant be real, its just mythology". But Christians have 1 book, and a shroud that coulda belonged to a petty slave of anyone in the world at that time and some other books recorded much later, and just because so many people believe it must be the "True Faith"(so many people believe because when christianity was brought upon the world if you didnt believe in it you were tortured or killed), and this is their proof that jesus existed and their god exists.

The funniest thing is when a christian says "Prove god doesnt exist"
You can't prove a negative, nor do you have to.
Innocent before proven guilty.
Doesnt exist before proven of existance.
Have faith, what they say when they have nothing else to say to convince you.

You say you don't like Christianity topics then stay out of them. This is not a topic for blasting Christianity, if you want that make your own i the garbage topic. I am tired of your constant spamming of nonsense. This is for questions of Christianity not to blast it. So once again ask questions or stay the heck out.

I posted it because if you dont like my views, dont start opposition to them.

You and your arrogence think that you are always right, and all mine is nonsense. You are wrong and can't deal with it, so you come to this forum to find other peeps that share your blind faith, to stengthen yours. If you do this and find more peeps that follow here and can share ideas like yours, it will be a little easier for you to believe in Non-sense. Christianity is the non-sense.

If you don't like my replies to yours, then go away, go to where it is welcome, but you wont do this, because obviously theres going to be christians in a christian board, so you have to post here to find them, because if you have to find them instead of knowing where to go you feel more strength in your beliefs. This is why you are here and not at a board where you and your arrogence should be. Notice that you also refer to any posting that I would make garbage. I hope death comes slow and painful to you, for you are the being of presence in this day that was your ancestors of the past that persacuted many innocent people with death and pain, all because they didnt believe in your "True God"

However i believe that there are fire breathing dinosuars. In the book of Job, he uses the word leviathen and some other words that mean either dinosuar or horned dinosuar or fire breathing dinosuar. So then the Bible says these things but only in one place. So ya does that answer your question?

Phoenix you have me all wrong. I made this topic to keep people like you out. You are supposed to ask questions to learn more about the BIble. It is for people who are skeptical or maybe are trying to learna bout the Bible, not for selfish people who are looking for quick minerals. I suggest you stay out of thios topic, once more, because you are totally going out of your way to get to me. Make a topic called "Christianity Bash" if that is what you want but unless you do stay out. Idsa maybe you can quote that form the Bible? I don't remember reading that, however, I hav heard of the leviathen you are speaking of. If I saw the verse I could look into it a bit more. Or even if you could give me a small hint as to what book and such. Thanks.

To get back to the question, yes he did do stuff while he was here. Strictly covering the bible, it is said that he visited some of his followers, showing the gift of ressurection, taught a little, the bid them farewell. And while I consider myself chrisitian, my religion also beliefs he came to the Americas and introduced himself to a certain peoples(i dont remember exactly who).

The Americas? What the hell? Dude the Americas weren't even discovered back then. I doubt anyone even lived on them. I have no idea where you got that notion from but it is wrong. And about Him visiting His disciples I can see how that is possible.

Wow, as i said its not in the bible, its part of my religion(thanks for being so open to the idea that there are other ones.)

Strictly covering the Bible, that implies that you are saying the Bible says that.

People say dragons don't exist because there's no evidence about them. Now ok u're going to say the same right back at christians; no evidence of God. No visual proof of evidence, but once u have accepted God, you would pray to him alot, build up a spiritual relationship with him. And many times, alot of your prayers get answered by him. The only way for people to actually believe/convert to Christianity is to experience God themselves, not by coercion or eloquent teachings. As for me (and many others as well) you sometimes just get this very relaxing and conciliating feeling after you ask for God's help when you are feeling terrible.


Christianity does NOT deceive people and brain wash them of their common sense and intelligence. I have no idea where you got such a fallacious idea but it seriously could not have come from the bible. In the Bible it's really all about teachings about how to build up good relationships with God/Jesus, teachings, and just all the historic events that happened. Nowhere does it try to suck up all of ur common sense or logic.


The Bible isn't just one Book. It's 66 books all written by various authors of different backgrounds thousands of years apart. Rather than carry 66 books around, people were smart and decided to compile them into one.


Ok, then George Washington, the creator/founder of the United states of America, never existed. There's no proof that he existed. Pieces of writing that say he existed aren't proofs, they could've just been made up. I need visual proof that he existed. That's the same attitude you guys have on Christianity.

EDIT: I'm not saying that statement is completely wrong; it's just that sometimes it can't be used for everything

Instead of addressing his point, you begin to digress, claiming he shouldn't say anything to your post. Nice


You're the one being arrogant, indecisive man wasnt. You say Christianity is non-sense with nothing that hasn't been refuted to back it up. He's just saying you're posting the wrong stuff in this thread. This is for people to post questions they have about christianity, not for people to say their thoughts about christianity (there's already plenty of threads out there for that).


This is his thread, he made a very clear statement in his first post saying what this thread is about:

And you're the only one here that's not in compliance with what he said. And you seem to have a very big problem with that. If it still continues to bother you, then you should go away and leave this topic and stop bashing on people like indecisiveman, for people who actually want to ask/answer questions.

Thank you for that MillenniumArmy . You ahdnled that very well without flaming, something I could not do hehehe. Anyways back on topic. I mainly want to...."discuss" this point. It had never stricken me before but as I was reading Genesis over(for antoehr topic) I found that the first few sentences are confusing. I will type them out.

Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and the darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the WATERS.

You see it says the earth was void...then it says God was hovering over the face of the waters. My dad explained it to me but I did not understand quite well. I was wondering if anyone else knew what this meant. It also says later on he created the seas. So anyways, I am curious on what soem opinions are.

The big question is why do you have to bring it here, you bring a controvercial topic to a place it is not wanted, this site was not made for posts like these, and there are sites that are so I ask WHY ARE YOU DOING IT HERE???????????

This is the PERFECT place for these controversial issues to be talked about. This is a SERIOUS Discussion forum where we talk about serious stuff like religion. You dont see any moderators like yoshi or isolatedpurity deliberatly locking down/removing all religious topics just because they about religion? No you dont, therefore meaning religious topics on this website are perfectly acceptable. There's NOTHING wrong with talking about religion here. If you truly have a problem with it, you have two options:

- Ignore them (best option).
- Leave the site.


EDIT: Ok yes there are other better sites just for this sort of talk but there's really nothing wrong with posting them here. It's not illegal nor to the extent of spamming or flaming so i think it's fine.

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What about the indigenous peoples of the Americas? The Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, Iroquois, Cherokee, Shawnee and other forgotten tribes were all living in North and South America before white men turned up, stuck a flag in a beach somewhere and claimed those lands for themselves.

To get back on topic: I heard you disputing the fact that Jesus appeared to his disciples after he rose from the dead. I'm 100% sure that, in the Bible, Jesus remained on the Earth for about a year after he was crucified, and appeared to his disciples during that time.

So - why did he decide to remain for so long? Surely all he needed to do was appear once and say 'Hey guys! Look! I'm alive!'?

What I was trying to point out is that nowhere in the Bible did it say He came to America. And still I doubt anyone lived here. Hmm, I never read that he stayed that long. Better go over those verses again...and if He DID stay that long, I am sure He had reasons. Maybe He had to tell his disciples things. Maybe He had to correct things that were being falsely done. Build a church. Many different possibilites. Of coruse that is assuming He stayed that long. Maybe soemwhere the Bible says what He did...so much to read . I will try to get those answers back to you CaptainWill. Until then I guess you can assume He was just doing things that needed to be done.

There were definitely people living in the Americas before Columbus (or arguably the Vikings) discovered it for the Europeans. There are bones and artefacts and stuff.

But yes, I expect that, if Jesus came back for a long time - it was the build his Church. Poor old Peter couldn't do it alone, I imagine.

Umm I am not talking about Columbus discovering America...it is just that back in B.C. I didn't think anyone was in the Americas. Anyways back on topic. My dad showed me some scriptures that show kinda of what happened. Well not how long he was there...it does give accounts of eight days....not a year . And through reading those verses I believe He stayed after His resurrection to show people that it was real. In all of the gospels it says that many people saw Him. It gives accounts of Him eating with people, seeing people, and even talking with His disciples, including Thomas! So what I have decided is that He basically DID come abck and say hey look at me I am alive, except He did it by showing hundreds of people instead of telling a few and then other people not believing them. Get it now? If you want I can post some of those scriptures.

Ok, my bad - it was something I heard a vicar say at 4am this morning when he was leading the morning prayers on Radio 4 (I'm now listening to stuff like that whenever possible - so I can actually be knowledgeable on Christianity questions). The guy was talking about how Jesus and some of the disciples went fishing when he rose, and they caught 123 fish or something.

Oh, and there have been people living in the Americas for as long as humanity has existed.

Wow I think it is good you are knowledging yourself in Christianity. I guess even if it is to argue against it... (Eh what is a vicar...lol?) Yeah, like I said Him fishing with disciples is very likely since He was trying to show that it was real.

Hmm, if God made Adam and Eve, and they started humanity, how were there people in America? I think it is because you believe something otehr than Adam and Eve, lol.

A vicar is the Anglican (English) Church's equivalent of a preacher, I guess.

You know like you have Reverend Lovejoy in The Simpsons? That's a vicar.

Well, even if we accept your Adam and Eve scenario - it is possible that humanity spread all over the world before the time you were talking about. Is a date actually given for the Fall? I don't think so, so it is possible that people came to be in the Americas before white people settled there.

Why am I even arguing about this? There is overwhelming evidence for human settlement in the Americas and all over the world for thousands of years into the past. Add to that the small matter of Columbus and Co. finding natives when they went over there in the 1400s, and I have a concrete, indisputable argument.

I see...a vicar...hmm. Well I think the whole Americas thing is a bit off-topic. I am not saying no one was here when "white" people came, I am merely saying I do not "think" they had traveling boats and carried all there equipment or what have you in the time of Jesus. I know that the Native Americans were the first one's here, so again that is not what I am arguing. Anyways, if you haev a question that is on topic ask it. You seem to be....a bit more genuinely concerned? rather than trying to prove people wrong. I think that is good. But no one has answered my previous question about the Genesis thing. If anyone has an opinion please share.