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Report, edit, etc...Posted by LittLeLives on 2005-04-25 at 23:04:37
Wow! So many replies! I'll try to reply later on this week, until then I have exams to study for and projects to finish. Stay tuned!
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Kirby_Star
Basically your wooziness is just an illusion littlelives... Just like that spoon bender guy... blink.gif

Yeah, now that I think about it, your mind doesn't tune in all the way the very moment you wake up.
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Mini_Moose_2707
The next time you try this, use a clock with a second hand, its lot easier to percieve seconds than minutes. tongue.gif

Perhaps I should. Well I do have one in my room, I just don't look at it because it's easier and faster with the digital clock, especially in the dark. However, it just moves due to its tinkering, so could it really be the truth? Well, I ought to experiment this sometime, depends on when I wake up, because I usually have leftover homework to do...
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Kirby_Star
I downloaded and checked out deathknights3... it rocks! Great map Alpha(MC)

Yeah, I loved it too. I helped you test it when you wanted to see if you fixed the player two item recieve bug, though I don't know if it was on East or West, but I think I was on as L)arkLitLeLive-. You may not remember me as I lagged out. =/ By the way, you inspired me to make a Warcraft 3 map seeing that a timer that can move up is possible. Thanks a bunch. biggrin.gif
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Don't know.
I meant Mr.Kirbycode774....not you.

Sorry Kirby_Star. I thought the person who posted it wanted Mr.Kirbycode774, too, as he is good at these serious discussions. The guy even lectures me on B.net! Not that I am ungrateful, mind you. Don't worry! Just add some big words, sensible reasons and meaningful quotes in your text and you too may become a great philsopher as he is.
As I said before, I don't have time to answer/comment on all of the replies, but thanks for writing and for the ideas.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-04-26 at 00:01:28
I will now share my great and vast wisdom.
Moo. It was an honor to share it with you.

Time is very odd, as our human minds are horrible at estimates in time. I doubt you can "stop time", where that means to halt the whole world around you. That's saying you're going at the speed of infinity, which is impossible for a tangible object like yourself to do. Can you slow time or, perhaps, alter time relatively to you?

Possibly. Since our minds are extremely inaccurate about time, you probably could change your mentality, which throws off your "internal clock" even more. Like, for example, when you get a cut. If you focus on the cut, does it hurt? Yes. If you are busy with life around you, does it hurt? Usually not.

So the question for me is, "Are there specific thought patterns that, if trained, we can manually change our mindset to make us more or less focused upon time around us?" If so, we would be able to more efficiently do more in less time (focused), and be able to pass the time while waiting for something (unfocussed).

Why yes, indecisiveman, this IS something I like to talk about.
Oh, and hi Kirby!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-04-26 at 00:20:36
Oh my goodness Kirby. Had I known you would start this again I wouldn't have called you!! biggrin.gif Anyways...please don't make this into one of your notorious "infinty time" threads. We know how those turn up... shifty.gif


Off Topic:LitleLives, as if you care this is Chaos_Blade[Sc]. Just thought to let you know pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LittLeLives on 2005-04-26 at 00:31:26
Hooray! Mr.Kirbycode774 answered! He is god! He even shared his great wisdom with us! He knows all!
First of all, I would like to make a brief comment that I'm not solely asking if we can stop time or not. In fact, I doubt it. I just added the comment "Can we stop time with our minds?" as a way to attract people and to make people start questioning and start thinking about it. It was also the relation point of my "incident". However, the purpose of the incident was not to explain how we could stop time with our minds, but to point out the flaws in the measurements we have in time. It is not about time-traveling!
I would like to point out some solutions and add more comments to them. These reasons weren't just to answer the question, they are individual topics all they're own.
6) Time compensates for itself. I would especially like to point this out because I believe this to be a strong point and also the most sensible
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LittLeLives
After a few more experiments with the same procedures I came to the conclusion that the seconds a minute takes compensates for the minutes that are going to pass and vice verca.
1) If we focus hard enough, we can make a clock stop. However, does this effect the whole world globally? What if we're watching a clock that shows the seconds hand?

As I said, I have my doubts about this one, even before I started this topic. However, I would like to hear your voice on the opinion.
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LittLeLives
2) My clock is broken or I'm just hallucinating. Have you experienced this?
3) I am crazy. Or have you too experienced this?

Two and three sort of go together. These relate to groggy perception, as most of you pointed out.
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4) Time passes by quickly if we're having soo much fun we lose track of time. Time passes by slowly when we're bored. However, I was bored when I was looking around my room and it passed quickly. I actually was thrilled at the new concept of power of time that I lost track of time when I was observing it.

This one is self-explanatory.
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5) It is the void of time where if it makes a wrong calculation it gets trapped here, though I highly doubt this, but it is possible, I guess. 

This one is self-explanatory.
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7) Do you have another solution of your own?

What I also meant (or to at least imply) was if you have your own time theory. However, this also means you can still have solutions to #1.
So, what I meant for everyone to do was to share their opinions on each solution, not just for #1.
Forgive me if I wasted your time, but I tried to imply it. (Even though I can see why it wasn't seen). If you are confused to this point, I am sorry and I am too. I tried to type this in in as fast as I can as I need to get back to researching. My sleepiness and tiredness is also a factor here. Again, thanks everyone for your replies. I will try to reply to each post throughout this week.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-04-26 at 01:00:02
Time cannot be stopped. It's like saying 11 cm = 12 cm. Just won't happen. All time is , is a measurement. Just like feet, inches, centimeters, grams, whatever. It's a way to organize a day. Time is merely a concept that is influenced by the light provided by our sun. Though things that make me doubt this is the Theory of Relativity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-04-26 at 01:13:01
Ya, even if you could stop time, You would have to some how interact with all matter. (Or w/e force that controls time through the universe. Considering IF it exists. Which I personally doubt) It would make about as much sense as being able to destroy the entire universe with your mind/mess it up real bad. I mean, we would see people picking up mountains with their mind, way before we see them messing w/ all the matter in the universe. Arrogance is the only word to describe people who believe in this. Because if they were to stop time, their mind would have to also be stronger than mine, and billions of ppl who live here. I could safely go, well it COULD happen. But I'm not really a safe guy. I say it won't ever happen, unless you're the big capn G himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-04-26 at 20:45:24
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Apr 25 2005, 09:01 PM)
I will now share my great and vast wisdom.
Moo. It was an honor to share it with you.

Time is very odd, as our human minds are horrible at estimates in time.  I doubt you can "stop time", where that means to halt the whole world around you. That's saying you're going at the speed of infinity, which is impossible for a tangible object like yourself to do.  Can you slow time or, perhaps, alter time relatively to you?

Possibly.  Since our minds are extremely inaccurate about time, you probably could change your mentality, which throws off your "internal clock" even more.  Like, for example, when you get a cut.  If you focus on the cut, does it hurt? Yes.  If you are busy with life around you, does it hurt? Usually not.

So the question for me is, "Are there specific thought patterns that, if trained, we can manually change our mindset to make us more or less focused upon time around us?"  If so, we would be able to more efficiently do more in less time (focused), and be able to pass the time while waiting for something (unfocussed).

Why yes, indecisiveman, this IS something I like to talk about.
Oh, and hi Kirby!
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I'm not jealous or anything but did you see my posts on all the serious discussion?!!

Here is another thought, Everything exists yet doesn't exist, it is all an illusion yet it is real. What is the smallest unit? we don't know... it is the emptiness of the dark matter that fills space yet we cannot harness this dark matter for it is nothing at all!!! so basically everything exist (ex. you and me) yet it doesn't exist becauseeverything is made up of dark matter or energy, but energy also has to be made up of something and there is always something smaller... science only goes so far and that is when religion kicks in. Also by using the everything exists yet doesn't exist theory I can say that your time adventure is an illusion as I stated in my previous posts.

Beat that! tongue.gif (no offense!)

Also 11cm.=12cm. could happen maybe... dunno, awkward things are possible (ex. mystery spot even though I'm pretty sure it is just a magnetic screw up in the earth's magnetic field)

This thread may become a philosophy contest lol! tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by unnownrelic on 2005-04-26 at 21:41:10
We definetely cannot stop time with our minds. The implications of that are enormous and that would mean that we would be all powerful (literally) and could accomplish EVERYTHING in less than even a nanosecond. And I sat we would be all powerful because we would have to use all our brain to do that, and at that point, we would be able to manipulate the very fabric of space around us, much like the Protoss. And at this point in human evolution, we only use about 10% of out brain to actively think and operate (including lower brain functions i.e. heart beat, breathing, etc.) and only about 5% more for our subconscious. And like someone said, I'm not sure who, if you concentrate hard enough wierd things happen, like something unexplainably falls. Although it may be completely natural causes we are unaware of, like a light breeze, it might be us utilizing maybe even .0001% more of our brain. It's just at this point most of us have already programmed ourselves to follow a strict line of normalcy and have lost the ability to do any of that stuff, also much like the Protoss in the Aeon of Strife (I think). The only real way we could regain that state of mind is to restart life and be taught by someone who truly believes that it's possible, which is almost impossible to find. That's my reasoning and if there are any arguments just say them because it won't bother me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-04-26 at 21:51:17
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I'm not jealous or anything but did you see my posts on all the serious discussion?!!
Actually, no I haven't.

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Here is another thought, Everything exists yet doesn't exist, it is all an illusion yet it is real.
So this is your statement you wish to prove. (I'm thinking to myself by typing)

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What is the smallest unit? we don't know... it is the emptiness of the dark matter that fills space yet we cannot harness this dark matter for it is nothing at all!!!
Ok thats a fallacy there. You claim we don't know what it is, then SAY what it is! ohmy.gif

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So, basically everything exists (i.e. you and me) yet it doesn't exist, because everything is made up of dark matter or energy. But, energy also has to be made up of something and there is always something smaller...
Ah, now for your "philosophy contest"! w00t.gif

Think of a bar magnet for a minute. It is a bar =====, and on one side it is positively charged, and on the other it is negatively charged. Now tell me, when you break a magnet, what happens? It breaks into two smaller magnets! That is how I see what the smallest fragment will be. It will be something that is so pure, that when you divide it, you get two smaller fragments, but both are fully the same item.

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science only goes so far and that is when religion kicks in. Also by using the everything exists yet doesn't exist theory I can say that your time adventure is an illusion as I stated in my previous posts.
Your conclusion is plausible IF your inferences had more proof.

Now one thing I wish to mention is that you rudely stated that religion is just a science gap-filler. I could probably spend a paragraph denouncing the stupidity of evolution, but I'm just too nice, pink, and happy. <(^.^)>

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Also 11cm.=12cm. could happen maybe... dunno, awkward things are possible (ex. mystery spot even though I'm pretty sure it is just a magnetic screw up in the earth's magnetic field)
So you're also not you? Uh-huh..... mellow.gif

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Unknown, as much as that was a nice passage, you should've read littlelive's passage before you posted. He already knows you can't stop time. He just gave that as an introduction to get us thinking about time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by unnownrelic on 2005-04-27 at 10:14:12
Okay. I just was giving my reasoning for why you can't stop time and what the miplications would be if you could.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)RuFF on 2005-04-27 at 11:06:18
1 word to say it all: Impossible
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zergling[SK] on 2005-04-27 at 13:26:17
How did we get to the topic of all the above, and time travel? We are trying to discuss how we percieve time. I say the only way you can tell time is to look at where the sun is. It doesn't give an exact time but it does give you the general time of the day. What you were experiencing littlelives is normal for the most part. As most people have already said, you percieve time on how much you focus on it (or the lack of focus). I have experimented with time (i guess this would be an experiment), while in my French class i watched the clock (with a second hand) and watched the time slowly pass, but if i put my head on my desk, and slept (yes I understand that i should pay attention to my teacher but o well) the time would go a lot quicker. If i worked the time would go by at normal time. Also, while reading this entire post it took me 10 minutes, then another 10 to think and type all this out. I started reading at 12:02, it's now 12:22. It just goes to show you that everyone is different, in almost every way. The way they think,talk,walk,and in this case percieve time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-04-27 at 19:43:22
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Apr 26 2005, 06:51 PM)
Actually, no I haven't.

So this is your statement you wish to prove. (I'm thinking to myself by typing)

Ok thats a fallacy there.  You claim we don't know what it is, then SAY what it is!  ohmy.gif 

Ah, now for your "philosophy contest"!  w00t.gif

Think of a bar magnet for a minute.  It is a bar =====, and on one side it is positively charged, and on the other it is negatively charged.  Now tell me, when you break a magnet, what happens? It breaks into two smaller magnets! That is how I see what the smallest fragment will be.  It will be something that is so pure, that when you divide it, you get two smaller fragments, but both are fully the same item.

  Your conclusion is plausible IF your inferences had more proof.

Now one thing I wish to mention is that you rudely stated that religion is just a science gap-filler.  I could probably spend a paragraph denouncing the stupidity of evolution, but I'm just too nice, pink, and happy. <(^.^)>

So you're also not you?  Uh-huh.....  mellow.gif

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Unknown, as much as that was a nice passage, you should've read littlelive's passage before you posted.  He already knows you can't stop time.  He just gave that as an introduction to get us thinking about time.
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Lets see.... You sound just like a kid named Howard at our school

Also lets see what that pure element is... I say it is energy but what makes up energy?! nothing! and all sorts of stuff also smallest unit has nothing to do with a stupid bar magnet! ohmy.gif Then why do we have quarks, atoms, molecules? aren't they the same thing? no! They aren't smaller versions of the same thing.

I already stated what I thought the smallest unit was... nothing...

I know I believe in god too but if you think of all the studies today, they sort of contradict... lets just get off the religion factor so we don't offend anyone ermm.gif

Somewhat... I'm also not exactly me by the rules of the exist but doesn't theory I suggested.

Eat that! (no offense)

I suggest a kirby team too <(^-^)>
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2005-04-29 at 06:22:25
As of now, overall no comment.

Just posting to say, its not 24 hours in one day, its 23 hours and 56 minutes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-04-29 at 18:31:37
Amagine this: Your computer.
When you first boot up, and everything is loading, what happens if you run something? Its slow, and isnt exactly the best run of it ever...
This is you waking up,
Your brain is still recalling everything and stuff. And you are tired so everything seems to pass slower.
(no more of computer example...)

Then after you are awake, and you focus on something; seems as if 10 minutes passed and you look at a clock and... 3 hours has passed. Wtf just happened? Did your brain just skip 2 hours and 50 minutes? no. You were just focused so much that nothing told you what time it was.

Now you are in History and your teacher is just droning on and on and on... You start to get tired... and half an hour passed (seems like), then you look at the clock and your like "OMFG! Only FIVE minutes passed...". Its because your watching the clock, so then you are waiting. I can't really explain this one better disgust.gif

Ok...
Amagine this... you go to bed... your lying there in your dark room. You wake up. You were asleep and never relized it!
Now from an experience I had:
Ever been laying there and your so relaxed (etc.) you could say your asleep, but your senses are partially aware of your surroundings? (Like being half-asleep).
This once happened to me on a warm summer night/morning. I was laying there "staring at the back of my eyelids" when suddenly within "5 seconds" it got from black to sunny. Well actually, several hours just passed! Was my mind speeding up the time? I was just "asleep" or "hibernated" so I was oblivious of the time, and my "internal clock" was also not there because I was indeed asleep. When the "clock" isn't there, your mind has no telling of the time, so it just ignores everything (thats how some people never wake up no matter what. a "deep sleep"). But because I was partially awake, my brain is just "processing" really slow. Now since its slow, its like lag. you see one frame, then it jumps. But your brain never "lags" or "jumps", so it just runs it smoothly. so it will just skip the time. But when you wake up, wouldn't you now be like a few hours behind? No because since you are now (at lest partially) functional, its started recieving the full thing so it jumps forwards to that.

Now the only way we could fully understand everything is just to somehow hack into a brain, and find a way to read the extremely advanced "programming" and "codeing". If someone could do that, we could find *almost* everything.
Your brain, in my opinion, is like a bioligical "super computer" that has almost infinite possability.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by unnownrelic on 2005-05-02 at 18:58:16
That's very true about the brain slowing down when you sleep. It also works the other way around. If you are in like a combat situation or something and you have the adrenaline running through your system you start to think faster, making your reaction time faster, in comparison to your sense of time, everything seems to be slower than you because you are thinking or moving that much faster than everything else. That also kind of explains why I could sit there staring at an unmoving point in space and remain completely focused on it that I can blank and 10 minutes later realize that 10 minutes have passed but being completely aware of everything around you. That might explain how those guys in the gaurd boxes with the tall black hats that sit there staring off into space (you know the guys you can do anything to and they won't do anything about it) don't really seem to notice the passing of time because, i don't know about you, but if I had to stand for hours on end on the same spot without moving I might get a little irratible for someone even coming within 5 feet of me but you can practically steal their hats and they wouldn't move.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-05-02 at 19:31:04
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think faster, making your reaction time faster
Thinking faster has nothing to do with reaction time. In fact you cannot think faster at anytime. Your simply thinking more.

To back up my claim. Nerve impulses run electric signals down axons of theirs. These axons lead from the cell body, where the recieving signals go after being picked up by the dendrites. They then jump from one part of the axon to another by differing charges. It is a rather complicated process to expleain so I will leave it at that. But these charges are spead up through the use of fat cells called Schwann cells. These insulate the charge so that the pulses have to jump from one area to another. This jump give the electricity the speed it has. The wider the schwann cell the more it has to jump. Humans have relativly small schwann cells, so they have slow reaction times. Squids on the other hand are the quickest thinkers.

There are also other variables in reaction times. The reason we have faster reaction times during a fight or flight response is because of epinepherine and norepinepherine. These basically constrict blood vessels so blood gets to parts of the body quicker, this includes the brain. Here they have the potential to stimulate more nerve cells to fire, which would give us more of a reaction to things. It is our attentiveness that increases in these responses, rather than our processing of the signals. The muscle cells also get more oxygen to perform more movement, this might have something to do with faster reaction.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-05-03 at 18:53:55
I don't think we can stop physical time with our minds, but we can alter mental time quite easily, by occupying our thoughts with other things (time flies when you're having fun).

We can alter physical time through physical means, like going really fast. If you go at 98% the speed of light, you will age a hell of a lot slower. This is time dilatation.

Example: You have a kid and then go into a spaceship by yourself and orbit the Earth for 10 years (relative to you) at 98% the speed of light. When you get back to the surface, the child will probably be older than you...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-05-03 at 19:02:16
We can alter how much we remember time. I don't really feel like remembering dull moments, so my weeks fly by. happy.gif

A weird thing that is impossible but mind boggling. If people could go faster than the speed of light, time would be going at a normal speed for anyone on the spaceship, but in relation to "stationary" objects, they would be going back in time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by unnownrelic on 2005-05-03 at 20:35:25
You'd only be going back in time if you traveled in the opposite direction of the revolution of the universe. I think. Or something like that. And actual faster than light travel, if you follow Einstein's theories, is impossible unless you pull a Star Trek and rip a hole in space, essentially giving you a shortcut through the very fabric of space and time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-05-10 at 17:53:38
Here is how you can seriously time travel. (More like teleport) You some how magically stop all matter in the universe from moving, like all the protons, nuetrons, and electrons. (Like the coldest you can get it period) And you freeze yourself too, however, you DON'T freeze the path your gonna use to go from Galaxy A to Galaxy B. Then you just make your ship or w/e, slowly go through the universe. Take about maybe 2 billion years or w/e, and by the time u get there, u some how UNfreeze everything, and then bam. You teleported. Down side to all this is....it's impossible, unless you're the Big G man himself. Or you got 2352503759027520135702 I.Q.

(BTW Time Travel is about 4368961234986 times harder)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-10 at 20:37:49
QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ May 10 2005, 02:53 PM)
Here is how you can seriously time travel. (More like teleport) You some how magically stop all matter in the universe from moving, like all the protons, nuetrons, and electrons. (Like the coldest you can get it period) And you freeze yourself too, however, you DON'T freeze the path your gonna use to go from Galaxy A to Galaxy B. Then you just make your ship or w/e, slowly go through the universe. Take about maybe 2 billion years or w/e, and by the time u get there, u some how UNfreeze everything, and then bam. You teleported. Down side to all this is....it's impossible, unless you're the Big G man himself. Or you got 2352503759027520135702 I.Q.

(BTW Time Travel is about 4368961234986 times harder)
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Please, take no offense... but if you stop all matter from moving, everthing will cease to exist!!! that is how disintegration works dummy! Disintegration is caused by absolute zero cold when all matter stops moving, when matter stops moving, it ceases to exist!!! If you ever take a look at atoms, you can see they are moving and if they stop, they stop existing, if you cool the atoms down, you can see they slow down. Time travel doesn't exist even if you have 2352503759027520135702 I.Q. or else everything would be mass chaos... Because, then somebody would have traveled back to our time and told us everything but then someone would travel back to our time and try to conquer the world, but also someone will travel back to make peace and the world a better place... see what I'm getting too? Actually... perhaps it is possible... only if there is a different dimension that is not linked to this reality where all time travel takes place, but then we wouldn't be able to tap it... but if it were linked in an indirect way... perhaps... but then once you time travel... you'll be stuck in a chaotic world and i wouldn't exactly call that time traveling so I actually believe time travel doesn't exist...

lets see what mr.kirbycode has to say <(^-^)>

My opinion and perhaps the truth tongue.gif ... maybe not... or yes...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-05-10 at 22:00:18
I know, that whole theory was full of shit. But if you ask me, some people have done even more stupid ones in this thread. (And even more Arrogant ones. Like, u get pure arrogance, then u mate it with some more pure arrogance, and you get like, ultra pure arrogance. Then you throw in some narcissism, shake it up, then have it mate again. Then throw some american idol videos, then bake it at farenheit 911, And da bam. You got ultra ultra ultra, holy god damn, ultra ultra ultra, wtf, ultra ultra ultra, stfu, ultra ultra ultra, jesus censored.gif ing christ, ultra ultra ultra, this is almost as arrogant as god, ultra ultra ultra, holy jesus, ultra ultra ultra, where are my shoes, ultra ultra ultra, ULTRA, ultra ultra ultra, ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA, ultra ultra ARROGANCE. I personally think that's a bad example, but it's works for me. In a kinda...strange way)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-11 at 20:34:58
QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ May 10 2005, 07:00 PM)
I know, that whole theory was full of shit. But if you ask me, some people have done even more stupid ones in this thread. (And even more Arrogant ones. Like, u get pure arrogance, then u mate it with some more pure arrogance, and you get like, ultra pure arrogance. Then you throw in some narcissism, shake it up, then have it mate again. Then throw some american idol videos, then bake it at farenheit 911, And da bam. You got ultra ultra ultra, holy god damn, ultra ultra ultra, wtf, ultra ultra ultra, stfu, ultra ultra ultra, jesus  censored.gif ing christ, ultra ultra ultra, this is almost as arrogant as god, ultra ultra ultra, holy jesus, ultra ultra ultra, where are my shoes, ultra ultra ultra, ULTRA, ultra ultra ultra, ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA, ultra ultra ARROGANCE. I personally think that's a bad example, but it's works for me. In a kinda...strange way)
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......................... what?.................................. What is this arrogance thing?! are you saying I'm arrogant?! I submitted a perfectly good theory in the beggining!!! I did not submit one that made no sense and your theory doesn't make sense in the eyes of science!!!! And watch up with the recipe that has american idol as a recipe and 911 farenheit as in tempreture baking or the movie?!!!

That is all...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-05-11 at 21:33:28
Oh, sorry not you. Should've quoted the guy. Earlier on, somebody said that they slowed down time with their mind. Sorry for that. Also, on a side not, it had some satire in it, but the point remained the same.
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