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Report, edit, etc...Posted by LittLeLives on 2005-04-20 at 22:31:46
Time. Here are some facts about time.
1) There are twenty-four hours in a day.
2) There are sixty minutes in one hour.
3) There are sixty seconds in one minute.
We are all familiar with these. However, are they really the truth? Are they truly facts? Or are they labeled as facts because we do not know otherwise? Here is the incident that lead me to the disbelief that these are not facts.
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The Incident
One morning, I awoke early in my bed. I glanced at my digital alarm clock. 6:05. That was pretty early. At first I thought I should go back to sleep, but then I decided to just take that time to compose thoughts about this world. After a few meager thoughts, I looked back at the clock. 6:05. What? How could that be? They might've been short thoughts, but at least three minutes could've passed! I glanced back at the clock. 6:06. Okay... Then a silly thought came to me to observe the clock and I obeyed. I sat there, I did, observing the clock...observing it, observing it, watching it. Eventually, my mind numbed out and I lost track of time. I was still looking at the clock, but my mind was elsewhere. I was like that for a few moments until I remembered that I was supposed to watch the clock! I focused my mind on it. 6:12. I focused on it, harder. Now, I swear ten minutes could have gone by when the minute hand finally moved. 6:13. And that minute increased when my brain numbed out again. At this point,  I was like "What the heck?" I was starting to think can we stop time with our minds? Nah. I abandoned the thought. Out of complete boredom, I looked around my room for a second and then gave my clock attention. 6:15. This time I could have sworn only ten seconds passed.

After a few more experiments with the same procedures I came to the conclusion that the seconds a minute takes compensates for the minutes that are going to pass and vice verca. I did these experiments on different days at different times. Same thing over and over.
Now, I came up with some solutions.
1) If we focus hard enough, we can make a clock stop. However, does this effect the whole world globally? What if we're watching a clock that shows the seconds hand?
2) My clock is broken or I'm just hallucinating. Have you experienced this?
3) I am crazy. Or have you too experienced this?
4) Time passes by quickly if we're having soo much fun we lose track of time. Time passes by slowly when we're bored. However, I was bored when I was looking around my room and it passed quickly. I actually was thrilled at the new concept of power of time that I lost track of time when I was observing it.
5) It is the void of time where if it makes a wrong calculation it gets trapped here, though I highly doubt this, but it is possible, I guess.
6) Time compensates for itself.
7) Do you have another solution of your own?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-04-20 at 22:50:49
I would compare this to say, sleeping. Sometimes one might sleep for 8 hours but it would feel like 1. Take the expression, time flies when you are having fun.

The system of time we use is can't be labled facts I think. They are facts in what they are defined to do. But they probably are not what actual time is. They just "measure it" based on certain things.

Now many things could have happened to you. This sounds a lot like deja vu, where it feels like you already lived the moment, when it has only just happened. I read once that its something in your brain that fails to "connect" which gives you the feeling that you have been there before, but it hasn't. You probably just had some kind of mental lapse. I think it is just all in your mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ferral on 2005-04-20 at 22:53:02
Personally,
I could suppose, I've "experianced" this, but in 4th period, Spanish II, slowest class of the day... We get about 30 assignments done, each day... every other class we get like 10 done? And, in SII I stare at the clock constantly, count time down, I found that if I count to 34, a minute passes in my school, odd? Yes... but I count slowly, perhaps too slowly? But it works everytime...

Iuno,
I suppose it could be possible... Would be very interesting.. The thought kind of distrubs me..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-04-21 at 11:55:38
You can't stop time with your mind, as far as humanity knows. However, you can alter your own perception of the speed at which time passes, depending on how busy your brain is or what drugs you've taken.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-04-21 at 12:04:04
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You can't stop time with your mind, as far as humanity knows. However, you can alter your own perception of the speed at which time passes, depending on how busy your brain is or what drugs you've taken.

DAmn, I wanted to say that.
Also, those events are not too weird.
When I wake up for school, I usualy lay in bed until the last 5 minutes, then I change my clothes and brush my teeth yaddayadda.
Once, when I had 10 minutes before I had to leave for school, I blinked, and I could have sworn I hadn't fallen asleep... yet 14 minutes had passed.
Needless to say, I was late.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-04-21 at 12:55:18
QUOTE(LittleLives)
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We are all familiar with these. However, are they really the truth? Are they truly facts? Or are they labeled as facts because we do not know otherwise? Here is the incident that lead me to the disbelief that these are not facts.
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Wow, what a dejá vu feeling... blink.gif

QUOTE(Nozumu)
You can't stop time with your mind, as far as humanity knows. However, you can alter your own perception of the speed at which time passes, depending on how busy your brain is or what drugs you've taken.


*Roflmao* And was beaten to the point again... by one of my fav' debaters 'round. wink.gif

Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2005-04-21 at 17:25:01
In my opinion, if we could turn back time/time travel, the world might be chaotic. Like people would be roaming around with futuristic WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destructions if you don't know) and all the technology that would be accessible that could have chatostrophic <I spelled it wrong didn't I> effects. Time travel could also interfere with a person's life since someone could prevent birth or something like that. I guess <my opinion once again> we can only wait for what's in store for us.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by axblader on 2005-04-21 at 17:30:30
hello, its called history...? or your imagination...of course:

its year 23003232 A.D the Blobbies have taken over planet mareghyasfaetwssdgsdfgherhes. We have to kill them Viser.


there. i cahgned time, in my mind...

though time passes faster because you are engaged in something. like say you are multiplying 100 by e4q2352525243235r234. so your mind would be busy, so you wont notice the time, even though it is at the same speed. it's called perception. or if you are bored, you count the time, so you are focused on the time, so it seems slower.

or if you have powerful connections, change the time to 24 hours a minute confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.ZeALoT.oO on 2005-04-21 at 18:32:20
u couldnt stop time with ur mind because your mind is simply not powerfull enough to stop it, really nothing actually could, time is like infinite.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-04-21 at 18:48:27
Sounds like a topic for Kirby to stop by in. Kirbyyyyy come on! biggrin.gif Anyways...you most liekly fell asleep. Even though you thought you were watching the clock you were probably sleeping or dreaming.

Ex: You wake up. You go to the bathroom and take a piss. You go back to your room. You wake up. And you have to go again. You actually dreamed about going.

Ok so it is one of the most common things but it is the same concept. I am sure that scenario has happened to all of you. It is just natural. You can't change time with your mind. It is an incorrect notion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-04-21 at 18:50:42
QUOTE(Nozomu @ Apr 21 2005, 08:55 AM)
You can't stop time with your mind, as far as humanity knows.  However, you can alter your own perception of the speed at which time passes, depending on how busy your brain is or what drugs you've taken.
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And another quote:
A man sits with a pretty girl for an hour and it seems shorter than a minute. But tell that same man to sit on a hot stove for a minute, it is longer than any hour. That's relativity.
Albert Einstein
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-04-21 at 18:52:42
Look up Einstein. He has his time theory.

Anyways, i think you were high. Cmon, i think taht all the time. If i could stop time, i would.

Anyway, Einstein answers all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-04-21 at 18:57:38
QUOTE(indecisiveman @ Apr 21 2005, 06:48 PM)
Sounds like a topic for Kirby to stop by in. Kirbyyyyy come on!  biggrin.gif Anyways...you most liekly fell asleep. Even though you thought you were watching the clock you were probably sleeping or dreaming.

Ex: You wake up. You go to the bathroom and take a piss. You go back to your room. You wake up. And you have to go again. You actually dreamed about going.

Ok so it is one of the most common things but it is the same concept. I am sure that scenario has happened to all of you. It is just natural. You can't change time with your mind. It is an incorrect notion.
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I don't think that has every happened to me...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-04-21 at 19:03:40
Really now? You have never woken up(while dreaming) and gone pee in your dream? Hmm....your the first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-04-21 at 20:10:34
Time is just a measurement. We made it up.

It's also largely based on situation and perception. Just like that whole girl and stove thing.

So in other words, Time is constantly passing by, It just SEEMS like it's going slower or faster sometimes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-04-21 at 20:16:31
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Really now? You have never woken up(while dreaming) and gone pee in your dream? Hmm....your the first.

I've never had a dream in which I've used the bathroom...
In fact, that's one of the very few things I haven't done...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-04-21 at 20:22:30
QUOTE(indecisiveman @ Apr 21 2005, 03:48 PM)
Sounds like a topic for Kirby to stop by in. Kirbyyyyy come on!  biggrin.gif Anyways...you most liekly fell asleep. Even though you thought you were watching the clock you were probably sleeping or dreaming.

Ex: You wake up. You go to the bathroom and take a piss. You go back to your room. You wake up. And you have to go again. You actually dreamed about going.

Ok so it is one of the most common things but it is the same concept. I am sure that scenario has happened to all of you. It is just natural. You can't change time with your mind. It is an incorrect notion.
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Well kirby is here!... Meh, trust me... time flies when you are having fun... awkward coincidences happened.. and your head feeling woozy is boredom... and... when you get bored time flies... just like sleep... I once got in bed, closed my eyes, and the next thing I knew was that it was morning and my watch was chiming to wake me up. We can't go back in time or the world wouldn't exist... See if we had that technology someone from the future would undoubtedly have visited us and brought us all sorts of technology and we would have lots of technology by now... but then we would do the same and the world would have technology galore but then it would never stop so this doesn't exist so don't be disturbed... clock stopping... same coincidence as ESP or psychic bending powers... rumors say if you focus hard enough you can modify something... I stick 50/50... yes sometimes if I focus I sometimes do weird things and sometimes something that I was focusing on does happen... but if something like this exists... it either dwells deep in our minds or we have a secret organ that does it or an organ that we don't know the function of or our brains have a part dedicated to doing it but scientific studies haven't proven anything yet so it is one of those focusing coincidence combined with the time flies coincidence and boredom makes you woozy illusion... Get what I mean? So it is perfectly normal... no need to be worried or disturbed... biggrin.gif If you have made it reading through my post this far, Give yourself a pat on the back! w00t.gif

**Edit From now on call me professor kirby_star! tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-04-21 at 22:40:01
Time is always passing and we measure the passing of time with seconds, minutes etc.. just like we measure liquids or solids and how we weigh ourselves.
These are all ways we have invented to understand something or to explain something. (If a recipe told you to add just flour into a cake it would be hard to tell how much you need)

Our brains on the other hand do not know what these measurements are or how they work (our subconcious atleast). So time becomes a perception rather than a fact and it seems like something slows down or speeds up because your perceiving it at a different rate. Boredom, tiredness, happiness, amusment and many others affect our perception of time. (Yes I know much of this has already been said, just adding my own two cents)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-04-22 at 01:21:34
They are absolute facts because we created them and agree upon their terms. It is arguable that in nature there exsists no time, it was a concept purely thought up by man. It has been pretty well agreed upon, because it explains the way we persieve events to happen the best. This could not be the only real answer, but as you can imagine, figuring out a system that explains much of what the idea of time explains would be difficult, to say the least.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-04-22 at 19:19:36
I meant Mr.Kirbycode774....not you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.ZeALoT.oO on 2005-04-22 at 23:24:23
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I meant Mr.Kirbycode774....not you.

lol, i could see that the other person seemed so happy that he thought he was wanted, what a way to ruin his happyness tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-04-23 at 11:30:12
It's ok Kirby, we all love you. or something like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-04-23 at 11:49:52
The next time you try this, use a clock with a second hand, its lot easier to percieve seconds than minutes. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-04-25 at 20:19:14
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I meant Mr.Kirbycode774....not you.
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Hmmmph!!! thanks for insulting me! see if mr. kirbycode774 is as good at this... Also i think i've met mr. kirbycode on b.net before... ermm.gif It'll take me some time to restart... Basically your wooziness is just an illusion littlelives... Just like that spoon bender guy... blink.gif

**Edit oh yeah, today I downloaded and checked out deathknights3... it rocks! Great map Alpha(MC)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-04-25 at 21:51:45
I'm flattered.
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