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Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-03-26 at 20:25:45
I think it also turns 256x256 maps into 256x257 ...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-03-26 at 20:35:09
QUOTE(SI)
Not liable for statements made while drunk...

Same goes for me too! Actually, I just didn't proofread my post or I would have caught that glaring contradiction. Or maybe I'm just dumb.

I think it adds a 1 to the horizontal size of a map, so... 257x256. But I think Heimdal's gonna change things around. I don't know what the deal is with the sounds, though. Maybe I'll ask Heim about it. Anyway, the real point of my post was to talk about the trigger editor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-03-26 at 20:38:01
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Seriously, learn StarForge's trigger editor, it's great. You just need a bit of practice, but you quickly learn to make triggers faster than in SCXE.

You have got to be joking. I'm lost on the information to put in. It would be nice if his autocomplete accually worked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-03-26 at 20:47:45
It's real simple. If you want to understand it now go here. It's a nearly-complete tutorial made by Clokr_ on how to use StarForge's trigger system. Not included (yet) is the autocomplete thing, but I figured it out myself after messing around for about 10 seconds. You should be able to figure it out real quickly, too, after reading that tutorial. Be warned, English is Clokr_'s second language, so it can be confusing if you aren't expecting his goofy grammar. If you still can't get it I'll try to explain it more clearly, but I don't think you'll have any problems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by -black-death- on 2004-03-26 at 21:42:03
QUOTE(Volt(U) @ Mar 26 2004, 08:38 PM)
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Seriously, learn StarForge's trigger editor, it's great. You just need a bit of practice, but you quickly learn to make triggers faster than in SCXE.

You have got to be joking. I'm lost on the information to put in. It would be nice if his autocomplete accually worked.

Works great for me. crazy.gif

scem0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-03-30 at 13:54:07
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-03-30 at 14:42:39
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-03-31 at 13:46:42
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-03-31 at 14:40:18
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 31 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.

You may be refering to yoshi's quote, I am stating that for everyone. Scmdraft may have bugs, it may not have bugs, if people say it has no bugs they generaly mean they havn't noticed any or none have occured while they used it. I know some portions of the code are bug free (the sections which have been finalized and optimized) while others may have bugs , however nothing that is obvious or it would be reported. wink.gif

hence I will state scmdraft is in a quantam state, until a bug is observed, or code is completely verifiedit can be both bug free or bugged at once.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dashrike on 2004-03-31 at 17:34:26
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 31 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.

You may be refering to yoshi's quote, I am stating that for everyone. Scmdraft may have bugs, it may not have bugs, if people say it has no bugs they generaly mean they havn't noticed any or none have occured while they used it. I know some portions of the code are bug free (the sections which have been finalized and optimized) while others may have bugs , however nothing that is obvious or it would be reported. wink.gif

hence I will state scmdraft is in a quantam state, until a bug is observed, or code is completely verifiedit can be both bug free or bugged at once.

Isn't that kind of obscure? Saying it either does or doesn't have bugs? My guess would be it does, but I haven't tried it...

btw quantum stuff is fun. I like quantum mechanics (although my favorite would have to be theoretical physics bordering around the speed of light and beyond...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-03-31 at 18:03:47
QUOTE(dashrike @ Mar 31 2004, 05:34 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 31 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.

You may be refering to yoshi's quote, I am stating that for everyone. Scmdraft may have bugs, it may not have bugs, if people say it has no bugs they generaly mean they havn't noticed any or none have occured while they used it. I know some portions of the code are bug free (the sections which have been finalized and optimized) while others may have bugs , however nothing that is obvious or it would be reported. wink.gif

hence I will state scmdraft is in a quantam state, until a bug is observed, or code is completely verifiedit can be both bug free or bugged at once.

Isn't that kind of obscure? Saying it either does or doesn't have bugs? My guess would be it does, but I haven't tried it...

btw quantum stuff is fun. I like quantum mechanics (although my favorite would have to be theoretical physics bordering around the speed of light and beyond...

of course its obscene, that is the entire idea of quantam mechanics smile.gif
so you mean relativity?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-03-31 at 19:26:00
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 06:03 PM)
QUOTE(dashrike @ Mar 31 2004, 05:34 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 31 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.

You may be refering to yoshi's quote, I am stating that for everyone. Scmdraft may have bugs, it may not have bugs, if people say it has no bugs they generaly mean they havn't noticed any or none have occured while they used it. I know some portions of the code are bug free (the sections which have been finalized and optimized) while others may have bugs , however nothing that is obvious or it would be reported. wink.gif

hence I will state scmdraft is in a quantam state, until a bug is observed, or code is completely verifiedit can be both bug free or bugged at once.

Isn't that kind of obscure? Saying it either does or doesn't have bugs? My guess would be it does, but I haven't tried it...

btw quantum stuff is fun. I like quantum mechanics (although my favorite would have to be theoretical physics bordering around the speed of light and beyond...

of course its obscene, that is the entire idea of quantam mechanics smile.gif
so you mean relativity?

I enjoy making more quotes at the top.

Anyways, what kind of features are we going to see in the next release SI?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-03-31 at 21:14:09
He said the TrigEdit plugin. That's enough already. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-03-31 at 21:20:09
Well, I meant besides that obviously happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-04-01 at 01:43:39
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 31 2004, 07:26 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 06:03 PM)
QUOTE(dashrike @ Mar 31 2004, 05:34 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 31 2004, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 31 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Mar 30 2004, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 26 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Mar 26 2004, 06:17 PM)
I hate ppl who go "program XYZ is buggy" but when asked to name any bug they fail to provide evidence, because they use the buggy excuse to hide personal ignorance or bias. =p

I agree with this statement. You all outta be asamed. Seriously. SCMdraft has no bugs. Disagree? Make sure you post the bugs with your reply.

I would disagree with that, Just because we havn't discovered a bug doesn't mean they dont' exist. Just in the last version i found a bug (since fixed cause i reported it properly) It was said to be bug free then.

I never have claimed its bug free. I just said most people calling it buggy are unable to name any bugs, or effects, or say "oops I was using / i meant scmdraft 1" (yes this has happened)

LoL this multiple quote thing is getting fun (it shouldn't do this but oh well)

Anyways, Im pretty sure i hear people saying SCM Draft has no bugs it might not be you but I hear it alot. As you can see in my quote that quotes you quoteing me quoteing yoshi quoteing yourself, I am clearly refering to yoshi's quote.

Err maybe its not that clear ha ha.

You may be refering to yoshi's quote, I am stating that for everyone. Scmdraft may have bugs, it may not have bugs, if people say it has no bugs they generaly mean they havn't noticed any or none have occured while they used it. I know some portions of the code are bug free (the sections which have been finalized and optimized) while others may have bugs , however nothing that is obvious or it would be reported. wink.gif

hence I will state scmdraft is in a quantam state, until a bug is observed, or code is completely verifiedit can be both bug free or bugged at once.

Isn't that kind of obscure? Saying it either does or doesn't have bugs? My guess would be it does, but I haven't tried it...

btw quantum stuff is fun. I like quantum mechanics (although my favorite would have to be theoretical physics bordering around the speed of light and beyond...

of course its obscene, that is the entire idea of quantam mechanics smile.gif
so you mean relativity?

I enjoy making more quotes at the top.

Anyways, what kind of features are we going to see in the next release SI?

not sure yet, as I am busy with uni this week and the last 2 weeks and next week. After that who knows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-04-01 at 13:07:34
Big news pertaining to Heimdal and StarForge development! Yoshi, you might want to make a news post or something. Check it out here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-04-01 at 15:48:18
QUOTE(Nozomu @ Apr 1 2004, 01:07 PM)
Big news pertaining to Heimdal and StarForge development!  Yoshi, you might want to make a news post or something.  Check it out here.

boo, you broke the quote chain ! =p
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-04-01 at 17:31:24
Hey SI, if you're going to need more testers 'n' stuff for SCMDraft 2, I'll be happy to help you out. I know the trigger system inside and out, if that makes any difference. I'm going to be coming home from college in early May... Until then I'm stuck with a Mac. How about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-04-03 at 13:29:48
remind me when you are home.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-04-03 at 16:23:53
That I shall. You don't expect it to be finished by then?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2004-04-03 at 16:54:53
well, I am in no hurry, and I will work on it until ppl stop making suggestions I decided to implement.
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