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Um...I've lived in America my entire life....And I still think our entire country is full of idiots....its not a stereotype, Im sorry to say, but rather, a fact. If you don't believe, then go ahead and try this:

1. Pick a good serious topic on SEN(other then this one).
2. Find a 5-10 random people wherever you live, that you DO NOT KNOW, and ask them about their opinions on that topic.
3. Record and compare their responses to the ones on this site.

Now, If we(the people of SEN) were to be considered above average(This is the overall score) on the scale of intelligence, then what would the people you talked to amount to?

Challenge accepted, MilleniumArmy.


Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Granted they would be speaking on the spot, to get the proper results for this, from a scientific point of veiw, would be to go on some patriotic site and post the same topics as on here.
Then again you would limit your audience to those highly patriotic members of our society.
Overall though, I think many people think other people are stupid. Not just America. Americans simply flaunt it.

Lol. Ever wonder why those quiz shows were made? Because those producers know the average american will fail them. That's probably why so few foreign people get on them. And when they do, they dominate.

Some Americans have managed to dominate. But then again, those few Americans are superior individuals compared to their average counterparts. *coughkenjenningscough*

I think SEN people overly observe people. And come to conclusions. What is being smart? KNowing every single detail of history? Or knowing how to do cal and pre cal? Those are just abilities people learn today. America is not an idiot country, do you know how hard it is to get a good job in this country? There is so much compition to accell. I have to say though that there is MANY MORE smart people in America now a days then before becuase A) There is more people living today in this country then before. But the percent of drop outs or 'dumb' people is greater then ever before.

Thats why gettting into an American college can be difficult becuase there are so many smart students all applying at roughly the same time. The biggest percent of dumb people would be inner city schools where kids care more about their hood and gang then they do about their school.

Out of curiosity, but StarSChris, what grades do you beleive are good or even acceptable?

Smart and dumb people come out of every place in the united states. From what I've seen, most of the dumb people are Americans. I know four smart people in my school that are American. There are Americans who get good grades, but I know they're not actually "smart"; instead, they just study a lot. For me, that doesn't qualify as smart.

Not knowing about History like mad doesnt make you stupid. And you people say all Americans are stupid, i beg to differ.

By the way, if i ever say that again, kill me. (beg to differ)

First off, I consider "smart" the ability to use ones head and actually learn, understand, think, and put effort into doing so, rather then just avoid doing the task. The amount of knowledge you actually posses doesn't really matter. Second, forget how many smart people there are. Its the percentage that really matters. We simply don't have the same ratio of intellectuals as we used to. There would be no real difference in ratio from back then till now if all these people didn't take everything for granted(Thank You for pointing this out, CheeZe) and actually cared about their futures and educations. And as for College, well, almost any foreigner from Japan, China, Korea, India, even Russia, that graduated from high schoo, could probably get through college without the same amount of trouble as Americans (provided that they aren't somehow..."modified"...by fellow dorm members or other such cases..). I just don't see that as a reason against it all, especially since most of our educational problems are from highschool and down.



Even the A's people are dishing out nowadays mean nothing. If you got an A for Pre-Algebra, but you're in, what, 8th grade? Does that make you smart? Hell, you should atleast be in Geometry, those were the old standards I believe. And excluding Math, there are still other subjects where this sort of stuff happens. Grades don't mean shit, really. They're just something the system uses to determine your academic level, and its not really all that accurate.

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First off, you're taking us too literally. When one says "all," they don't really mean ALL. Its an exaggeration, and if you have possibly forgotten, then please allow me to remind you that the human race is very accustomed to exaggerating things.

And we aren't talking about what they don't know, its the fact they don't know it by now. Its of their ability, willingness and actuall effort, not the amount of knowledge they posess.

Time of smarter people? Huh? I think people now a days are smarter than people a generation or so ago. (we all know how people LOVE to exaggerate the past. Especially one that they were once in. I too even do it time to time) Maybe all that's really happened is just people are getting more lazy and/or the standards for colleges have went up. This is the computer age people.

Well, thats the thing. As the world around us improves(sorta), we should aswell, shouldn't we? It sucked in the dark/medieval ages for most people, hence, the fact that most people in the dark/medieval ages sucked aswell.

OH LAWD, A SENTENCE WITHOUT AN ACTION, WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?
Get your grammar straight when you're talking about how an entire nation full of people is dumber and lazier than any immigrant who enters the country.
What country do you live in, by the way?

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Dang, wouldn't you know it? Most of the dumb people in America are Americans. Who saw it coming? Are most of the dumb people in Mexico mexicans?

An entire country that's less intelligent then any immigrant?


Anyways, we're not saying that we're perfect, we're complaining that others are worse.
Just because we made a mistake doesn't mean we're out of place in insulting others- that's only when we make more mistakes then they do.

Most of the stupid people in America isn't just because America is mainly made-up of Americans.
I look at the halfway intelligent people at school, and most of them are not American.

What the hell do you call people that live in America (the USA) that aren't american? It's not like a race, it's a nationality. If you live here, you are american.

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An entire country that's less intelligent then any immigrant?
I wasn't the one who said it first, ask Cheeze about it.

I blame the Mormons. We kill them, there. Problem solved.
Smart people have gotten smarter, but the general public is still very impressionable and rather stupid. As evidenced by the high numbers of idiots voting for parties as opposed to Presidents, (even when the opposing candidate could easily be better for you), people don't like making hard decisions. i doubt the education system will be getting better if we get another President like Bush. The coporates put the money in the pockets of alot of candidates, industries that would lose money if people got smarter and realized how useless their products are, or that they can get the same thing for alot less. Credit cards, cell phones, expensive and inefficent cars, expensive houses, crappy but expensive computers, and the loopsided ness of the food industry, the stuff that tastes good but is horrible for you is cheap, the stuff that's good for you is expensive. All of those industries lose alot of money when people come to their senses and stop paying money for cash they could get later, buy smaller and more effective cars, (also damaging the gasoline/oil industry), buy houses within their range, and get on theirn shitty computers and use the internet to buy worthwhile computers that might cost as much as the ones they have now. So, you can all expect to be called a nerd for a good deal of time.

Well, today was the last day of school for me (earlier than most schools I hear), last day of this school forever (8th grade, going into 9th {high school!}) and it was the worst day of the school year, since my teachers made me not want to leave, and a food fight, a riot, and cussing out the teachers were on the last day of school, I wanted to cry, and I very rarely cry (even on death).

Damn ba*****s think that they can't get punished, but most of them got first week of high school suspension for next year. Most of them I believe are going to go into drugs, gangs, and crap. I hope next year will be /socially/ acceptable.

3/4's of my school are nearly brainless, and I was wondering "why the hell me?" Unfortunetly I have the answer...

"It has got to be someone."

Anything like this at your school?

(BTW, sry if I carried too far, I just got out of school and I am steaming!)

Um ok. I don't care what mistakes I made, the point got across; if you need to point out such subtle mistakes, why don't you go to France? I'm sure they would love you to point out every mistake they've ever made.

I live in America; while I like it here, I hate the society.


Congratulations, you missed my point. I hope you miss my points later on as well.


Smart, by my defintion, is how fast a person can learn and understand a topic, as well as connecting this kind of knowledge with other experiences or knowledge. Unfortuantly, most people here are not.

You guys really need to think about what you're replying. Half of what you say don't have an arguement in them and expect a reply to it. Well, such a thing can't be done so you may want to try again.

I'm receiving complaints from this topic, pretty much based on people flaming a person's way of life. Watch it, if I get another complaint I'll close this.

Well, i'd have to say that your school and my school are alike in many many ways...but in the end, this doesn't contribute much to the thread other then adding another example. Would you care to go into more detail?



Well, you see, thats what I was implying. If one hasn't been able to comprehend the material by then,either they seem to be lacking in that area of intelligence, or it's simply not an interest for them. I pick the latter.

Cheeze, I disagree with your post that says "Americans take everything for granted. Why are those foreign people getting A's? Because they know real life takes hard work and determination. American's think everything will go their way because they are Americans, thus better than other countries." The way it is worded means to me that all americans take everything for granted and don't understand the effects of hard work and determination. I believe that while there are those that are like that (a disgusting amount) that not all americans are that way. It seems to me that you neglect the fact that there are stupid foreign people. Your definition for smart doesn't fit very many of the foreign people I know, and of the ones it does fit, they don't work hard and aren't determined.

I never said in my definition to be smart requires one to work hard nor have determination. They simply have to have the ability to learn quickly. A friend of mine who is simply a genius is probably the laziest person I know!

Also, everytime I use the world "American" or "Foreign People" or whatever, it's implied that it means "most" or "majority" or "overall".

Once again, I'd like to tell you that you are taking these posts to literally, kinda like warhammer. He never said ALL Americans take everything for granted. Its not even the point. His message is all that matters in this thread, not the way he presents it(And he presented it well enough, so theres really no reason to go against that either).

Actually it only takes about 2-4 years of schoolwork that doesn't overload your brain to get virtually any job an average person would want. Also, to tell the truth, the average I.Q. if an American is beat by a Russian or an Asian by about 3 out of 4 people. The obesity problems and natural aggressive culture of America doesn't make them look that much smarter either.

I feel sorry for you. Some parts of the world are just spiteful and destructive toward education, this is another trait that most Americans seem to be quilty of.

You said "Why are those foreign people getting A's? Because they know real life takes hard work and determination," I was saying that of the foreign people I know, most aren't smart and of the ones that are, most aren't hard working or determined. They don't get A's either. I understand that you're point is that a majority foreigners understand that hard work and determination are what will make them succeed later on in life, it's just that from where I am, this point is wrong. The majority isn't always just the majority of the people you know.

Actually, for now, I think we have to be using the same definition for foreign, give me yours so I have more of a clue about what I am talking about.

Since we're on the topic of America, I'm pretty sure "Foreign people" means people who live here but aren't Americans. (Bah, 1 sentence reply, what a waste)