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Can I have a copy?

That seriously is the funniest thing I heard today.

Hey, I'll take a couple hot zones over an entire war any day of the week.

I pray that you're not supporting the patriot act. I mean, do you not know how unamerican it is? It's more like, "Give the government even more power act." And the sad thing is, people feel we need it. Therefore making terrorists win. They made you be afraid of them (That's why they're called terrorists, because they cause, keyword here: "Terror"), so you're willing to giving up some of your liberties to ensure that you sleep better at night. You know, liberties that people fight for in the first place.

Give a government power, and they'll abuse it. This patriot act gives them way too much power. The people have no voice anymore. They now much rely on elections which are being questioned, "are they rigged or not?" Nice democracy we got going on.

Ya, you're right. They do need a reason to arrest you. (They can simply lie, and tell everyone that you're a terrorist, or a threat to the country) However, they don't need to tell any body about it, since they can get you on a military trial, and have you sent to death with out anyone ever knowing about it. I mean, our government is corrupted as it is, why be happy with something that makes it even MORE corrupt.

The patriot act is bullshit. The true patrioc act is the constitution, and they don't go together at all. One of the reasons why I'm a liberal, is because I believe in the American constitution. If this was the 50's, the paranoid conservatives would label the patriot act a communist tactic to bring our country down. Now they rejoice over it.

No, I beg to differ on the torture part. Some people should, like hitler for example.

I never said don't have a fair trial. Of course everyone should have a fair trial.

People should be punished badly but not tortured. Torture isn't punishment, because it there is no justice or w/e in torture sometimes.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=torture

DT, Check the definition before you start stating stuff like that. You got it mixed up with violent interrogation.

Mill, tortue is punishment. That's not up to debate at all. Wether it's a good punishment or not, THAT'S, what is up to debate.

Actually, torture can fall into the category of "punishment". But it may not always be this way.

I can torture you for fun. That's not a punishment.

You naughty little beast you.

Of course, I didn't include sexsual fetishs in it. Since those could counter example almost anything that involves opinions.

How in the hell did you get that percentage? It sounds like you just pulled it out of your ass.

Torture has been used like that, yes, of course, infact I agree with you on that, and I never said I didn't. (Reread my posts, seriously)

All I did was point out the difference between torture and violent interrogation. They're not the same thing. Hell, I even have the Dictionary on my side. All you're doing right now, is digging yourself deeper. You could've just said, "oops, I assumed wrong, honest mistake." And this would've been over really fast, really easy

EDIT: Since you've been having trouble reading my replies, let me makes it a little bit easier on what I stand on real fast.

Torture = Is able to be good.

Violent Interrogation w/ out a fair trial = Not good at all, unless under very special circumstances. Like there is a huge bomb about to go off in 10 min.

yea you can actually smart ass, "They Just Don't Get It" political book which bashs the Bush administration by the way, has the Al Quada Training manuel in it. go ahead and get it.

and on the torture subject: Some tortures I would like, they use a method of bringing in a some what pretty women and have her unbutten her shirt etc... and asks for answers from the terrorist, and this is a method of torture for some and this was on the news. Hell bring that chick over to my place and I will answer anything she wants hahahah jk

Bush helping our schools eh? Okay, go ahead and believe that crap that's being said about that. The "No Child Left Behind" is a stupid idea. It makes it so you have to take tests to pass High School. These aren't your average finals either. It is stupid, and retarded tests that make it so if you fail, you're "To stupid" to pass high school. And what has Bush said about "Alternative Schools"? He says those are schools for "Retarded" people. You know what? Piss on him for saying that. "Alternative" schools are more than just "Retard" schools.

Trying to fix social security? HA! That is the funniest thing I have heard. All he is doing is destroying Social Security. He want's to be able for young people like us, to invest our Social Security into "Stock" so we can get it raised higher. That is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of in my life. Turn a constant into a variable, really, really smart.....

The Patriot Act gives the local law enforcment, the privlages to do anything, and everything they want that invaids your personal freedoms (Which goes against the American Bill of Rights) That gives them the power to come into my home, and wire-tap, and install everything they want that will take away my privace (and believe it, the cops here are just that dirty)



EDIT: No, they don't need a reason. They could use the excuss you are a "Menis to sociaty" They can free lance, and will, all they want.



Torturing people is nice? Since when has the word torture been associated with nice? Does the word not induce thoughts into your head of pain and suffering? The word torture cannot have any nice things associated with it. It is a word that means sadamising people. Since when is that nice?

Oh, and "Terrorists deserve to be tortured" eh? Guess we better start torturing people in the white house, cause all it is full of is terrorists....



That is your oppinion not the facts. The facts are, Bush is a bad president. What kind of idiot would close military bases, in the middle of a war!?



Yup, you got it. George Walker Bush. Our president at this time.

"Where are my posts?" a couple of you may be asking... http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=13196

i just remember:
awfull torture have been permitted, it sounds like some of you haven't ever experimented what pain is to say "torture is nice"

ask your girlfriend to shit on your face, you're gonna see what human beings can really be victim of.

other information:
no need to close the eyes, the american education system is one of the worst for a wealthy country.
lot of people think that canada belongs to US,
And even Bush didnt know where France were, or if Spain is ruled by a king or a president.

Yes he does/did. Bush isn't as stupid as the media makes him out to be.

And who the hell is stupid enough to think Canada is part of the US? It sounds more like you're spouting bullshit than anything right now.

During the election I wanted to vote for Bush but after I saw Farenheit 9/11 I changed my mind, but then, Kerry was an ******* too and I'm sure he would an even worse president then Bush so if I could have a vote on that day, I would seriously vote for Nader.

There are three things I know:

I am not well versed on the situation
I am not old enough to vote
Kerry didn't look like a better candidate
Kerry stepped down during the final stage because there was no use fighting it. What does that say about his character?
Its too late to pull out of Iraq
Crying about it isn't going to change anything
Oh, and I don't like Michael Moore. I saw a part of Bowling for Columbine and it sucked.

In closing, I'd like to quote OK Go to the liberal nutcases:
"Get get get get get over it."

No Child Left Behind caused a phenomenon called No Child Let Ahead: bringing the Low slightly up to Mediocre and bringing the High plunging down. It's Americanizing the intelligent population! Oh noes!

The "No Child Left Behind Act" is trying to improve average. Which is mathematically impossible.


Nothing; he knows he should save his energy to run away from the bombs that are going to hit us.

If these "stupid" people actually pass high school, they are going to be "left behind" in the real world. They're not going to be as smart, they're going to be jobless due to their lack of quality education, etc. And once just a few of these people come out into the real world, they'll produce more stupid people and their stupid kids would produce more stupid people and so on. Soon, our country is going to go dumb (if it hasn't already) and our country will collapse. So with this "No Child Left Behind" Act, Bush is making sure that all kids that enter the Real World will not be too dumb and if they are too dumb, they will receive special education to boost themselves back up.


Your "fact" that Bush is a bad president is your opinion.


Well some dumb people do think Canada is like America's playground. And since we're so close to each other distance wise and relationship wise, I wouldn't be surprised...


Bush aint that great but I'm pretty sure neither would be Kerry. I wish they picked a better candidate...