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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 11:56:27
QUOTE(kooshtwo @ Jun 30 2005, 01:40 AM)
thanks. i see your point about the quoting, but some people quote only half of the things that we ment to say. thus is sencership. yeh, i know i typo all the time, but you get it anyway. you cant get banned for typos can you?
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If you have Dyslexia like you claim, then I think not.

I agree with you. If I was to take your quote and change it around to fit my needs, that is technically censoring. Not censoring persay, like in movies and songs and stuff, but it is still a form of censoring.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-06-30 at 14:58:25
QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jun 29 2005, 12:48 PM)
Yes, let's silence all other opinions so that we're right.  disgust.gif

Yay alpha! You're smarter than that! biggrin.gif

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If you're gonna censor cuss words because of their "negative" meaning, you're gonna need to censor a whole bunch of other "negative" words as well.
Not neccessarily, words have been given a "pre-determined" connotation and severity. In other words, the "vulgarity" of the word in respect to the broad society is what causes it to be a "swear word". Human wastes are considered low, so "crap"© is considered "low" as well; this is the same reason "shit"(s) is low. "Damn"(d) came from "Damnation", which is the verb using by the Catholics to "go to Hell", so telling someone to be sent to Hell would be quite vulgar and insulting.

Of course, people today are so ambiguous that no one truly means what full extent of what they say. For example, often when someone is about to lose I say, "You're screwed". Many a time, people think I mean "screw" as in "screwing around with someone (sex)". Instead, I actually mean a screw that has been screwed into something with a screwdriver, making it stuck; hence, it is trapped.

Don't you love stupid ambiguous people today?

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Koosh, I don't take the entire quote because of 2 major reasons:
A- The entire quote is IN the current thread.
B- It also makes it a lot easier to read and what understand what our point is. And if I DID lie about it or left some very important things out, the person could easily refer a link back to it and just basically bitch slap me in the face.

Yes, I think I may have been a bit harsh. It gets really annoying when someone puts the whole quote in their thread and only types 3 sentences. disgust.gif (not you)
On the other hand, people often leave important things out for their argument while trying to disprove you with things that don't prove anything in the first place!

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This time, I DID quote the entire thing, but that's kinda stupid of me, because the quote is about 2 things above this one. You know, it's REALLY hard to find.

It's too hard to find! sad.gif

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The Informal Law of Quotes:
1) You should only quote if the quote is on a different page or more than 4-5 posts above you. (You might want to edit if your quote beings a new page)
2) If the text is within 3-4 posts, and you have little to say, just make a reminder that you're agreeing/disagreeing with so-and-so.
3) If the text is within 3-4 posts and have much to say, it is suggested you still quote so that you can show what statements are you debating against.
4) You do not have to quote the whole post if the post changes topics. You only need the quote the text that is relevant to your argument; if you don't know if some text is relevant or not, put it in anyways.
5) NEVER QUOTE LONG POSTS WITHOUT BREAKING THEM UP. This is a complete annoyance to us readers. Split up the text so that we know what which reply goes with which text.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-30 at 16:51:57
I also think it's a good idea to, when you copy and paste a text and quote it, that you also put the name of the person you quoted, so that way the bystanders can also see who you're talking to (without having to do extra search).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-30 at 19:51:55
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 30 2005, 03:51 PM)
I also think it's a good idea to, when you copy and paste a text and quote it, that you also put the name of the person you quoted, so that way the bystanders can also see who you're talking to (without having to do extra search).
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Exactly.

Back on topic: I find offense when someone calls me a "moron", or an idiot. But those words are not censored. Why is that? You could just give it a softer name, like; Person of slightly lower intelligence. Something like that. But that takes longer to say. And we already got enough soft language as it is.
So how come people don't use a softer way of saying it?

Some words have very nasty meanings to them, yet some people don't even know what they mean yet. Like the word "Skeet" for example. I bet that's not censored yet. Which shows that cusswords will always be made. And if you silence one, another one might be born. And sometimes, the one that you try to silence, all it does is make the word cooler and/or more offensive. Like the word censored.gif for example. It's really a offensive words. Even people who say cusswords all the time, sometimes dare not say the word censored.gif .

It really comes down to personal opinions. This isn't the most concrete of subjects. It's really abstract.

What I'm trying to say is, there's a difference between taste and law.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-06-30 at 20:42:07
I think censorship should stay in the home and not be public. If your a parent, censor matrials that you don't want your children to see. But don't go over to another person's house and censor stuff that they may like to watch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-01 at 12:08:29
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Jun 30 2005, 06:42 PM)
I think censorship should stay in the home and not be public.  If your a parent, censor matrials that you don't want your children to see.  But don't go over to another person's house and censor stuff that they may like to watch.
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well, DUH.......thats what we have been saying the hole time. but it cant happen that way. there will always be that one prood who gets on someone elses case when (S)he is talking to a freind. like if one kid is walking down the street with his buddie and they start poping off sexual jokes. this continues back and forth till they get to the bus station. there is an old woman standing there waghting to go to work. the 2 freinds continue the lewd jokes till the woman finaly unloads on the 2 kids.

now im not saying that is a bad thing to do if there are kids around, but where dose she get the right to do that?

wow...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-01 at 18:51:28
Well people should take into consideration that there are other people around them, so you shouldn't just go saying lewd jokes so that everyone can here you. Though instead of "unloading" on the kids the old lady should just politely tell them to stop, or tone it down, and if they are rude then she can unload on them.

But I also think that you have to be tolerant at times, kids will be kids you can't really do much about that. Just tolerate it, because sometimes you might have the same effect on someone else, yet they will tolerate it too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-02 at 12:00:00
thuslly cencership. just giving an example.
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